Guest deleted34304850 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 if you have mods still active despite being uninstalled in vortex, its probably because you didnt install them with vortex to begin with. no mod manager, including the fabled nmm would uninstall a mod it didnt install.if you still have loose and stray mods in your setup then using vortex is probably the least of your worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustaCalidia Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 i hate vortex you have made it so difficult with nmm to install and uninsall mods was so easy because with vortex i still have mods running that have been uninstalled and deleted how can this be when the file no longer exist on the mod manager please please go back to us running nmm and get rid of that pile of shite vortex sorry bot the language but this vortex is the worst program i have ever come across and im 50 n been modding for years now why change something that already works for something that is crap like changing a lambo for a nissan note ............ Nexus Mod Manager is still alive and well: https://github.com/Nexus-Mods/Nexus-Mod-Manager/releases. As 1ae0bfb8 has already pointed out, you have leftover stuff in your game folders that was never put there by Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonpico Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Nexus Mod Manager is still alive and well: https://github.com/Nexus-Mods/Nexus-Mod-Manager/releases. Which version is that? The one that breaks New Vegas .fomod scripts or the one that doesn't support Fallout 4? I'm not going to go as far as calling Vortex "absolute shite" like the other guy, but I get his frustration, he was spot on when he called it overly complicated. NMM lets you overwrite files with a click of a button, but in Vortex I have to go and manually change the load order of every conflicting file. How did no one catch this in testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustaCalidia Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I'm not going to go as far as calling Vortex "absolute shite" like the other guy, but I get his frustration, he was spot on when he called it overly complicated. NMM lets you overwrite files with a click of a button, but in Vortex I have to go and manually change the load order of every conflicting file. How did no one catch this in testing? You're confusing load order, which involves plugins, with managing file conflicts, which involves overlapping files. They are not the same. Manual file conflict management in Vortex is not an overlooked mistake - it is a deliberate feature of Vortex that makes it a much more effective tool for handling many issues that NMM glossed over. There is a fine collection of articles in the Vortex Knowledge Base: https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Category:Vortex. You may find this enlightening reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) vortex isn't overly complicated at all. you have to set 3 things and turn on auto sort and auto deploy and it does everything else for you. as complicated goes, it ain't all that. Of course, if you don't read about how it works, and don't understand what it will do (such as not remove mods it didn't install) then it's going to look confusing, but it really isn't all that complex at all. the other guy, like many before him on here, is frustrated because his set up is borked. it was borked well before scapegoat Vortex was installed. but ignorance is bliss, i guess? speaking of ignorance; NMM lets you overwrite files with a click of a button, but in Vortex I have to go and manually change the load order of every conflicting fileVortex alerts you to file conflicts, and with a click of a button, you can tell it what to do, just as you can in NMM. How did no one catch this in testing?Catch what, exactly? Catch the fact that Vortex tells you that you have a file conflict, and allows you to tell it how to handle that conflict in such a way as to allow you, with the click of a button (as that seems to be important to you) to revert any file conflict without you having to then remember that mod x conflicted with mod y and you've removed mod x, so you now need to re-install mod y to prevent a missing file causing a CTD? Honestly, if you're going to call something out, you really ought to be doing it from a position of informed knowledge, rather than just random fallacy. Edited December 9, 2018 by 1ae0bfb8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Per-file conflict resolution isn't implemented yet, but it's being looked into, as I understand. Simply untrue.Where do people who spread these fallacies get this misinformation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 i hate vortex you have made it so difficult with nmm to install and uninsall mods was so easy because with vortex i still have mods running that have been uninstalled and deleted how can this be when the file no longer exist on the mod manager please please go back to us running nmm and get rid of that pile of shite vortex sorry bot the language but this vortex is the worst program i have ever come across and im 50 n been modding for years now why change something that already works for something that is crap like changing a lambo for a nissan note ............ Actually it's the other way around, You're getting a Lambo, and you want to go back to a Volkswagon.None of what you said about Vortex was based on facts, or any actual knowledge of using the program. You have mods running because you never uninstalled them with NMM This is becoming a trend, where people install Vortex withot reading the manual and learning how to use it, then they completely ruin their load order by skipping steps and experimenting, then come in here, blame Vortex for messing up something they did, complain about Vortex and ask how to go back to NMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lametime Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 NMM was so simple. Just move mods up or down for load order. Now I have to organise them all myself and get spammed about conflicting mods that aren't even installed. It's also visually a nightmare because of the lack of 'folders' which NMM had. Why have they downgraded their mod manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somerandomsheepthathops Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) NMM was so simple. Just move mods up or down for load order. Now I have to organise them all myself and get spammed about conflicting mods that aren't even installed. It's also visually a nightmare because of the lack of 'folders' which NMM had. Why have they downgraded their mod manager? So do you think all those thorough documentations, wikis, FAQs, videos, etc. are all done for the sport of it? Try using some of it before making claims of how awful Vortex is and how you want NMM back. Conflicting mods is easy to resolve, can be tedious if you have 100+ mods, but it's easy. Vortex sorts for you, and you can still change the load-order if you were so inclined. Folders can be created and utilized in Vortex. How do I know all this? I read the documentation, and used spent time teaching myself some of it as well. Well, that, and HadToRegister & 1ae0bfb8's often times insightful and helpful posts. Edited December 9, 2018 by somerandomsheepthathops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 NMM was so simple. Just move mods up or down for load order. Now I have to organise them all myself and get spammed about conflicting mods that aren't even installed. It's also visually a nightmare because of the lack of 'folders' which NMM had. Why have they downgraded their mod manager? The problem, you see is, Vortex AUTOMATICALLY does all of that "moving plugins up and down the load order" by itself, and there's no more need to do that anymore. The rest of your post shows everybody who has used Vortex, that you haven't bothered to even read any information about vortex, nor watch any of the videos, because the things you're claiming are completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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