Tidus44 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I actually only stopped by to say; SubjectProphet - fix the spelling in your signature block, its driving me crazy! But, in thinking the question over, I find it highly unlikely that an army of any type would get to DC (ever driven in Washington? - its a damn nightmare). Not that I don't think there will be some increased activity involving civil unrest soon due to the level of dissatisfaction there appears to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubjectProphet Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I'm with the others. There is no true threat from terrorism. It simply does not exist. We have no military enemies anymore. If DC were to be attacked, it would be by American citizens. I think that there is a possibility, albeit very slight, that another revolution could break out in America in the next decade or so. If the government continues along the path it is taking, it is just about inevitable. I don't think the argument that Americans are too apathetic/lazy to revolt holds much water anymore. Tensions are rising at a rapid. It appears a lot more people are getting involved in things these days. I don't think it is likely, especially not in the short term. In the long term, I think the people will take back control and change things up a bit. Maybe not much, but enough to let tensions fade. SLIGHT chance of revolution? Right now, it seems like a 85% imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I'm with the others. There is no true threat from terrorism. It simply does not exist. We have no military enemies anymore. If DC were to be attacked, it would be by American citizens. I think that there is a possibility, albeit very slight, that another revolution could break out in America in the next decade or so. If the government continues along the path it is taking, it is just about inevitable. I don't think the argument that Americans are too apathetic/lazy to revolt holds much water anymore. Tensions are rising at a rapid. It appears a lot more people are getting involved in things these days. I don't think it is likely, especially not in the short term. In the long term, I think the people will take back control and change things up a bit. Maybe not much, but enough to let tensions fade. SLIGHT chance of revolution? Right now, it seems like a 85% imhoStill a vocal, and often clueless (and sometimes hired by companies to act as protesters) minority. Think about it for a moment... You have people who are living in tents for months, just trying to maintain this "occupy wallstreet" movement. These people have to be getting money, food, and essentials from somewhere, and most of them probably aren't independently wealthy or well enough off to take a month leave from work just to squat in public land. Sure, there may be many who join the protest on their own, but things like this can't happen without someone providing funding. It may look like a grassroots movement, but it's really just a tool of the same old political engine. Will anyone attack DC? Probably not aside from some bat-s*** crazy radical group. Any other country wouldn't get very much benefit from such attack, and even terrorist groups would accomplish more targeting easier places to set the whole country on edge again. As far as rioting goes, those usually don't go anywhere other than destruction of property and looting, and we've been known to do that when a sports team wins, or at the end of Martigras. so not really saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I can't see an army marching against it any time soon, a thousand years from now? who knows, nations rise and fall. As for terrorism there's as much chance of that happening now as there was 10, 20 years ago, those who think the loss of civil liberties has bought them extra security are deluding themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamujiin Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 The United States Of America, is the Equivilent of a Modern Roman "Government". We are not in the "expansion" buisness so much so as the romans were, but we are the worlds only "superpower". With that i dare say, yes, it is only an inevitable occurance, it will eventually happen, whether tomorrow, or 1000 years from now. By her own people, or by a foreign power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharg67 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I'm with the others. There is no true threat from terrorism. It simply does not exist. We have no military enemies anymore. If DC were to be attacked, it would be by American citizens. I think that there is a possibility, albeit very slight, that another revolution could break out in America in the next decade or so. If the government continues along the path it is taking, it is just about inevitable. I don't think the argument that Americans are too apathetic/lazy to revolt holds much water anymore. Tensions are rising at a rapid. It appears a lot more people are getting involved in things these days. I don't think it is likely, especially not in the short term. In the long term, I think the people will take back control and change things up a bit. Maybe not much, but enough to let tensions fade. SLIGHT chance of revolution? Right now, it seems like a 85% imhoStill a vocal, and often clueless (and sometimes hired by companies to act as protesters) minority. Think about it for a moment... You have people who are living in tents for months, just trying to maintain this "occupy wallstreet" movement. These people have to be getting money, food, and essentials from somewhere, and most of them probably aren't independently wealthy or well enough off to take a month leave from work just to squat in public land. Sure, there may be many who join the protest on their own, but things like this can't happen without someone providing funding. It may look like a grassroots movement, but it's really just a tool of the same old political engine. Will anyone attack DC? Probably not aside from some bat-s*** crazy radical group. Any other country wouldn't get very much benefit from such attack, and even terrorist groups would accomplish more targeting easier places to set the whole country on edge again. As far as rioting goes, those usually don't go anywhere other than destruction of property and looting, and we've been known to do that when a sports team wins, or at the end of Martigras. so not really saying much. @Vagrant0Your point may or may not be true for often grassroot movements are more active, reach out further, then the main focus of their activity. They could easily have many supporters giving just small sums of money to assist those in the public eye. Remember we are talking tents, food and such like not great big expensive hitech items or anything like that. I would not be surprised if many items were donated by people who no longer used them or who were okay with just giving them away. Somebody with an extra tent, somebody with a backpack who no longer went hiking, etc. I have seen such grassroots movements being supported in this way with at least ten people supporting indirectly for every one being involved directly in what is going on. On top of this there may be a few donators who can afford to be more generous. On the other hand you may be right. I am just saying it would take more evidence than you present to jump to any conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beriallord Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Most people I know and talk to are absolutely disgusted with the government for one reason or another, or for a multitude of reasons. Considering prices of everything are going up, high unemployment, wages are stagnant, one war after another, etc, our country is in dire straights. People have every reason to be pissed at their government. If anyone marches on DC its going to be the angry masses of people if things don't start getting better soon. If 1 million + people marched on DC, and demanded that the government resign, I believe the government would open fire on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 It's not just the tents and the food, it's the logistics of some of these camps, and the fact that most people wouldn't just drop their job and family to join a protest. These people have to have some way of getting transportation to these places, some way of having communication with the organization from the start, and some way to make sure they have their rent and bills being paid while they're away for months. So either a good majority of them are homeless already, or they have some sort of support structure in place allowing them to just be part of the protest. It's certainly not the 70's era hippie lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharg67 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 @Vagrant0I see your point and appreciate it but back in the 'hippie era' there were civil rights actions that were actually supported by grassroots movements to a surprisingly strong degree. Gain enough small donations, some big ones, then charter some buses. Some people donate their organizational ability and experience to a movement, people who have been managers etc. I often suspect that certain 'hidden' factions support such movements to support their own agendas but that does not take away from the grass movement being genuine. I have seen artificial movements and they tend to look fake, the so called protesters being rent a crowds etc. I suppose what I am trying to say is that political, social situations tend to be complicated and not easy to judge in a black-white fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubjectProphet Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 It's not just the tents and the food, it's the logistics of some of these camps, and the fact that most people wouldn't just drop their job and family to join a protest. These people have to have some way of getting transportation to these places, some way of having communication with the organization from the start, and some way to make sure they have their rent and bills being paid while they're away for months. So either a good majority of them are homeless already, or they have some sort of support structure in place allowing them to just be part of the protest. It's certainly not the 70's era hippie lifestyle. The movement on Wall Street is actually an organized movement. Heavily organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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