Download speed cap increase for Supporters and non-Adblockers

[ebix]

In response to post #64086551. #64086861, #64087401, #64087691, #64089746 are all replies on the same post.

AdioPinoy wrote: I personally feel Nexus should be a pay only site. I have no complaints considering I normally use 140-189 mods and am on here 3-5 times a week. I get my moneys' worth. I also would prefer if modders got a piece of the action so they would not HAVE to have a Patreon page. I don't mind paying a bit extra for that also. Modders are worth gold, and I benefit from their hard work. I know libs think everything they have should be free, but modders make my gaming life enjoyable and far less time-consuming. A working man is worth his wages, and modders work. As a father of 5 modders and nexus make playable adventures far more playable.

Kaebus wrote: I don't think that would be financially sound, as a majority of their funding is from ad revenue of their free user's traffic, nor would it be particularly healthy for the modding community since Nexus is the main hub that attracts more modders and users alike because of its platform freedom. Creating a paywall for it would not do much to get them more long term funding, and would instead more likely press audiences to lead off to other paid services as their main mod provider instead (such as Creation Club) since they would no longer have a free option to default to.

Furthermore, not everyone's usage of the Nexus is to the same expanse as yours. Some simply come here for the bug fixes or a couple of simple customization options, rather than spending hours constructing giant mod rigs, and their experience should be considered as well. Making them pay the same amount as a heavy user wouldn't be very encouraging to those users. Ad revenue is the best way for the site to maximize profit proportionally to how much their users are using the website.

Also not sure where the lib analogy would be coming in on this.

Yggdrasil7557 wrote: Kaebus, the lib analogy is referring to american liberals who are "anarchocommunists" that believe that everyone and everything should be free, from movies that cost 100 million to make all the way down to the artwork that starving artists spend days or weeks on.

Kaebus wrote: I know what it is referring to haha, I was just saying I don't know where that usage is warranted in this topic. I am more conservative leaning and support hosting the site as they do currently without a paywall, so to brush everyone who thinks the same as being 'lib' would be inaccurate. I simply don't understand the reasoning for mentioning politics here is all.

The discussion of different financial methods is not inherently political, nor do I consider it a thought of it being free to be the most important thing (I'm a paying premium user), I think what's important is the balance of revenue and user experience/satisfaction. EA makes incredible amounts of money, but suffers one of the most vivid backlash communities because of their chosen methods. Same with many films that come out nowadays. Star Wars films make large sums of money, but suffer from heavy critique on account of their considerable amount of disrespect to their source material. I think Nexus has made great decisions that balance the amount of funding they receive in addition to maintaining a satisfactory service for all of their users, not just the paying ones.

hanageboubounosuke wrote: Modding is free, modders are voluntarily creating mods of their own volition with no expectation or legal or moral entitlement to fiscal compensation for their hobby (any who expect such compensation as a matter of course are delusional or woefully ignorant.) Modders are no more entitled to revenue for their mods than "the libs" are entitled to mods. The vast majority of modders are hobbyists who just want to share something they've created because they hope it will make someone else happy, not because they feel entitled to financial compensation for it. The Nexus's primary purpose is to ensure that the most possible people have access to the most reasonably possible mods, generating revenue is just a means to that end, it serves to fulfill a greater moral goal. Distributing free mods is not the ticket to financial success in a competitive free market economy.

Its worth mentioning that there are a few sites out there for modding that, while offering decent content to try and justify the pay wall, have no where near the reach or staying power of a place like Nexus BECAUSE of their walls. Nexus is -the- hub for modding in part because you can come in, download something, and leave; it also has systems in place to get deeper, but many probably won't see anything past a easy and quick way to get access and download content made by others. Trying to throw walls in front of people, like a pay wall, at any level will likely only splinter people into smaller subgroups (worse than they are now) and stop the people who don't care from joining, sending them somewhere else which will probably be worse in multiple respects.

Something also worth mentioning is Beth, at this point, probably only sees modding as a powerful thing because a place like the Nexus with it's large number of content AND people exists the way it is. Edited October 4, 2018 by ebix

[magicgun]

In response to post #64078956. #64079846, #64086906, #64087306 are all replies on the same post.

magicgun wrote: (this is deleted. now stop sending me inappropriate email)

Kaebus wrote: I don't think it's illogical or spitting in the face of users at all. They still receive the same service they have had for this long without complaint, they are only giving something back for people who are freely contributing financially to the site (conciously or unconsciously as the site puts it).

magicgun wrote: .

Yggdrasil7557 wrote: "Ad" is short for "advertisement" with 1 d not 2. While there are many different adblock variants such as opera adblock and ad block plus, the server can generally see where their data is going (or not going) and a script can tell "ads have been blocked" this is how many websites have the popup that says "please disable your adblock" blacktreegaming is not spitting in the face of users, it is not lowering the speed that adblock users can download at, instead it is increasing the speed that non-adblock users can download at. There is a difference between the two and you would do well to learn it. everything costs money, and adblock originated for two reasons: slow computers that would not benefit from the speed cap increase anyway, and intrusive ads that make sites unusable. Fandom for a while was a site that would slow down a computer to a crawl due to the number of ads it displayed, so it was the first site I used adblock on ever, and I only did so because fandom is wikia. since then fandom/wikia has removed some ads to allow computers to actually access it, and so I do not block ads on it anymore.
The way you talk in this sounds like a whiny child who thinks that it should have every toy, you can not have everything you want, everything is give and take, if you dont give, how can you expect to take?

. Edited October 4, 2018 by magicgun

[Ghostwalker71]

For quite a long time I would log out of my account and browse the nexus while letting the ads flash and jingle all they wanted. This was my effort to add a few more pennies to the pool, But I had to stop due to all the hack ads that were coming through. The last day I let the ads play I had three different ads in a span of about fifteen minutes that tried to lock me out and ransom me. I would very much like to continue letting the ads play when I'm able, but not at the risk of ransomware. I know the nexus has little control over the ad services, but until the hack ads are blocked it's just more risk than I want to deal with.

[LeonidasNerevar]

In response to post #64087931. #64088356 is also a reply to the same post.

Tomoxx02 wrote: Welp its a lie I still have 1mb limit on NMM

Kaebus wrote: It does say "starting this week" in the first paragraph of the article, so it may not be implemented for a couple days. Patience.

"This speed cap increase is live now for manual downloads and will be rolled out to Vortex within the next two weeks." Manual only. NMM doesn't seem to be supported. Edited October 4, 2018 by LeonidasNerevar

[Kalell]

My internet speed is only 6 Mbps. lol

[LeonidasNerevar]

In response to post #64087966. #64088311, #64089056 are all replies on the same post.

silencer711 wrote: @Dark0ne/Nexus Staff -- Have you guys considered:

1. Premium PLUS($ 1-5/mo)
2. Lifetime PLUS ($1-5/mo)

These are options that can allow supporters to keep supporting while granting cosmetic incentives or special recognition within the community, such as badges for those who have subscribed to Premium + in timed increments (like 1/2/6/12mos).

As a lifetime member myself, (and a bit of a ”shiny new things” hoe) I would donate even more of my time and wallet to support Nexus Mods. Just throwing you an idea for consideration. =)

Kaebus wrote: I would second this, especially for those of us who want to support the site beyond our lifetime subs. At the moment, the only way to do so (as far as I know) is in the long run by voluntarily paying monthly until we have passed the lifetime listed price lol

silencer711 wrote: Another site I use (not a modding site) offers that option and its something that I would endorse for Nexus Mods. I see a high potential for Community Funding via small membership bonus tiers like this.

I'm just one out of many people who would gladly support Nexus Mods beyond our lifetime memberships -- a ”plus” bit on top of what we've already paid for would be our way to consistently show our appreciation for everything Nexus stands for, while simultaneously providing recurring monthly ”income” toward Nexus Mods maintenance and upkeep costs.

I'd like to third this idea. Without turning it into Fortnite, I'd be fine with seeing some cosmetic and title rewards for "Plus" supporters of the site. I'd be fine with giving $1/month for this upgrade. Perfectly fine idea.

[LeonidasNerevar]

When I first started using this site, I used Adblocker, as I did for every other site I used. But a few months ago Y'all rolled out the Donation Points system that used ad revenue to generate the pool that would be given to the modders. So I stopped using Adblocker because I love the modders of the Nexus and wanted to help contribute to their reward. I feel good that I haven't used Adblocker in months and am now being rewarded for it. Much better than me disabling the adblocker after reading this article. But to all those who do just that, better late than never! :) Happy modding all!

[LeonidasNerevar]

In response to post #64088746.

GoddOward wrote: I can't take off my adblocker. I am so used to it, I really enjoy it bigtime. Sorry, I will keep it at 1MB.

You know you don't have to disable your adblocker entirely. You can just disable it for this one site. Just whitelist Nexusmods and you'll keep ads off on all other sites, but still support Nexus and our modders.

[Deleted59445121User]

In response to post #64078956. #64079846, #64086906, #64087306, #64091751 are all replies on the same post.

magicgun wrote: (this is deleted. now stop sending me inappropriate email)
(think what you want to think and say what you want to say.that's how you toxic people do things anyway)

Kaebus wrote: I don't think it's illogical or spitting in the face of users at all. They still receive the same service they have had for this long without complaint, they are only giving something back for people who are freely contributing financially to the site (conciously or unconsciously as the site puts it).

magicgun wrote: .

Yggdrasil7557 wrote: "Ad" is short for "advertisement" with 1 d not 2. While there are many different adblock variants such as opera adblock and ad block plus, the server can generally see where their data is going (or not going) and a script can tell "ads have been blocked" this is how many websites have the popup that says "please disable your adblock" blacktreegaming is not spitting in the face of users, it is not lowering the speed that adblock users can download at, instead it is increasing the speed that non-adblock users can download at. There is a difference between the two and you would do well to learn it. everything costs money, and adblock originated for two reasons: slow computers that would not benefit from the speed cap increase anyway, and intrusive ads that make sites unusable. Fandom for a while was a site that would slow down a computer to a crawl due to the number of ads it displayed, so it was the first site I used adblock on ever, and I only did so because fandom is wikia. since then fandom/wikia has removed some ads to allow computers to actually access it, and so I do not block ads on it anymore.
The way you talk in this sounds like a whiny child who thinks that it should have every toy, you can not have everything you want, everything is give and take, if you dont give, how can you expect to take?

magicgun wrote: .

I didn't mean for anything to come across as toxic, and I apologize if other users are giving you that treatment. However, when you say something that comes across as charged like implying that the service is "spitting in the face of users", it's expected to hear opinions in response of some charged nature as well from the people who admire the staff of this community dearly. The administration might not respond out of courteous professionalism, but other users do not have that same restriction and will stand up for them. Edited October 4, 2018 by Guest

[Pickysaurus]

In response to post #64086971. #64087256 is also a reply to the same post.

baddong wrote: I have AdBlock running on my Chrome but never activated just for this site


Is my speed of connectivity for downloading stuffs on this site still affected???

Kaebus wrote: If your adblock is disabled for Nexus, you should be fine. I am sure it is based on whether or not the advertisements are registering properly, and not based on if it detects an extension present within your browser period.

As a general rule if you can see ads or have an active membership you should get 2MB/s