Vortex killed my 2 year old Fallout saves

[PFCMaddMann]

So, I jumped on Vortex the day it left beta. I was excited because I love NMM and figured it would just be the same thing, but with a cleaner interface. Holy crap was I wrong. While Nexus is and will continue to be the place I download mods from, I cannot ever trust their software. After following all the instruction of getting my already carefully handpicked, ordered, and functioning mods (I was at 167 mods with less than 5 game crashes in 6 months), everything went to s#*!. ALL my save files were corrupted, and I have not been able to get fallout 4 to function properly ever since starting to use Vortex. It destroyed my save file with over 300 hours in it. I even went as far as to stop trying to repair my game and instead simply start over. I deleted EVERYTHING. Started over with my mods and my game. After almost 20 hours of fighting with vortex. I give up. I am sure some folks will love it, but not sure who. The interface is horrendous, the functionality seems cool, but I really shouldn't need to watch an hour of instruction videos to use a mod manager that I had already been using for the last several years. I'm not sure who decided this was a good idea, or that this was a finished product, but I now regret getting that lifetime membership here.

Not expecting anything to get fixed, but I figure if they don't hear the bad things, they will never know what they did is a problem.

[chanchan05]

1. Vortex did not leave beta. It ENTERED beta. So you might have had too much expectation there.

2. You have not been using Vortex for the past several years. It isn't even 1 year old. This is fundamentally different from NMM, so you do have to watch the tutorial. Basically, forget everything you know about NMM. I don't get this aversion to reading/watching instructions. People acting like they know everything then come running here saying they got their stuff broken or don't know how to use something. Maybe actually watch/read before using it?

3. NMM is easily the worst of the current crop of mod managers out there, and is the only one that works differently. Vortex, MO, and MO2 all work in the same way that they don't install directly to Data. In fact, the author of MO, the starting author of MO2, and Vortex are all the same person.

4. Honestly, I don't even understand how anyone can make mistakes using Vortex. Install, Deploy, Play. Done.

5. The only mistake you did was attempting to import from NMM. NMM's installs are broken, and should not be used on any other mod manager, because they're broken in a way that only NMM can actually use properly.

6. If you bothered reading the Vortex page, it says that if you have a working install with a different mod manager, it may be inadvisable to move and import to Vortex.

[AugustaCalidia]

Not expecting anything to get fixed, but I figure if they don't hear the bad things, they will never know what they did is a problem.

 

You are the problem, not Vortex and its developers. Apparently you thought Vortex was NMM out of beta in spite of many Nexus Mods news releases to the contrary. You didn't look - you just leapt and wound up in a mess of your own making.

[HadToRegister]

So, I jumped on Vortex the day it left beta. I was excited because I love NMM and figured it would just be the same thing, but with a cleaner interface. Holy crap was I wrong. While Nexus is and will continue to be the place I download mods from, I cannot ever trust their software. After following all the instruction of getting my already carefully handpicked, ordered, and functioning mods (I was at 167 mods with less than 5 game crashes in 6 months), everything went to s***. ALL my save files were corrupted, and I have not been able to get fallout 4 to function properly ever since starting to use Vortex. It destroyed my save file with over 300 hours in it. I even went as far as to stop trying to repair my game and instead simply start over. I deleted EVERYTHING. Started over with my mods and my game. After almost 20 hours of fighting with vortex. I give up. I am sure some folks will love it, but not sure who. The interface is horrendous, the functionality seems cool, but I really shouldn't need to watch an hour of instruction videos to use a mod manager that I had already been using for the last several years. I'm not sure who decided this was a good idea, or that this was a finished product, but I now regret getting that lifetime membership here.

 

Not expecting anything to get fixed, but I figure if they don't hear the bad things, they will never know what they did is a problem.

 

 

lol, I feel like I'm watching Fox "News" after reading this.

 

A LIFETIME Membership, and you've been a member since 2009, so you've been on the site for NINE YEARS, and you've only made FIVE posts, and one of them was about Hating Vortex.

 

SERIOUSLY?

 

Everything you described in your screed was YOUR FAULT. Yes, it was, accept some responsibility for your actions for once.

-Who in their right mind, would switch Mod Managers right in the middle of a 300 hour savegame?

-Who in their right mind, would, willingly risk their 300 hour savegames that relied on a set load order of 167 mods, AFTER BEING TOLD NOT TO DO THAT BY THE WEBSITE?

 

1. Bed Made

2. Lie in it.

 

[Guest deleted34304850]

I have to ask;

1. did you read the warnings written in several places advising users to NOT do exactly what you did?

2. did you make any backups?

3. did you back up your load order text file, so that you could refer to it when you transitioned to vortex, so that when you use it you can get the exact same load order?

4. did you use anything like transfer settlements to pull your settlements from your game, so that you might have the opportunity to transfer them into a new game and save yourself a lot of time?

5. did you read the instructions about how to use vortex?

6. what kind of remediation of any game consists of re-installing everything from scratch? all you need to do, to return to a vanilla base to start from is verify integrity of local files, delete a couple of directories in your fallout folder and you're done.

7. have you tried to go back to using NMM? If you haven't deleted anything all your NMM structures should still be in place, and all you need to do is tell windows to let NMM download links from Nexusmods.

[rmm200]

In all fairness, Vortex works fine with my over 1000 hour savegames, on both Skyrim (copied to Skytrim SE also) and Fallout 4.

OP should note that Vortex never writes anything to a save game - so it is incapable of destroying them.
At the end of the day a mod manager is just that - a way to manage mods. Vortex does that very well.

[Cheetahhawk]

the old nexus mod manager was still working for me. I just have to reinstall fallout 4 since i ran the file integrity check on it after running vortex myself.

i only did that cause the creation club content i was getting for free as well as some of the free mods off the bethesda site were not installing like they usualy do, Also f4se had an error on launch also so it was disabled.

because of all this ill just do a system restore roll back to a point before installing vortex.

 

would been better if i had backed up my hard drive before running vortex. i just trusted nexus that it was safe and installed it from the link at the top of the page, thinking it was an update to the old nmm

i didn't know about any warnings myself untill after i launched it.

 

i have a backup of and or can re download most of the mods anyway so i haven't really lost much myself other than download time.

as for skyrim most of my mods on there are from the workshop although a few where from nexus. and it was installed on my pc that the cpu fried on, not on my laptop where i tried it

so im able to go back and pickup where i left off if i want to.

 

its always good to backup your system before you try something new :)

[sopmac45]

@ OP .... lesson well learned and you deserved it because simply you did not read or investigate anything about Vortex before jumping to it.

 

Yesterday I was providing my own experience to someone else and I advised to leave your most favorite game in NMM and experiment with Vortex with another game that you do not really care much about so you learn how to use Vortex and after you learned it, then pass your favorite game to Vortex. Obviously, you did not read my input and you have not read any of the thousands in this forum from several users trying to help others and on the top of that, repeating the same-answer-type-of-help all the time.

 

Not even if the dev team with the help of the most experienced users in this forum decided to create a procedure called : VORTEX FOR DUMMIES .... will help people like you because simply you do not care about learning it at all !

[HadToRegister]

Edit:

Quote removed as containing excessive profanity and an offensive remark

FW issued for that

zcul

Staff Ref.:

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?&app=core&module=reports&do=show_report&rid=162486

 

You done with your temper tantrum?

 

 

NMM is still available to download, if you weren't seeing the "Red Mist" and seething with rage, you would've read where NMM is still available.

As a matter of fact, had you just clicked on the pretty orange INSTALL VORTEX BUTTON, and then scrolled down the Vortex page with the fury of a horde of rampaging Visigoths

You would've angrily seen this...(They also nicely put a link so you can download the latest version of NMM right from github, 0.65.10, those bastards)

 

 

[Guest deleted34304850]

i wouldn't waste my time responding to this guy. i reported his rant instead. let the mods deal with him.