Returning Modder w/ Questions

[ShadowGryphon]

So short version of events my computer melted down and after a costly rebuild I've had to reinstall everything. Since I was still using NMM before my computer bought it, I'm now just learning Vortex and I'm seeing that it does its own load order so do I need to install/run LOOT or does that cause conflicts?

[HadToRegister]

So short version of events my computer melted down and after a costly rebuild I've had to reinstall everything. Since I was still using NMM before my computer bought it, I'm now just learning Vortex and I'm seeing that it does its own load order so do I need to install/run LOOT or does that cause conflicts?

 

Nope.

Loot is built into Vortex, just turn on "Autosort" and forget about sorting ESPS, and focus instead on the more important sorting BSAs etc in order to get your textures working correctly.

 

Using LOOT with Vortex will just put you in a never ending loop of fighting with yourself.

I haven't had to mess with load order for Esps (except for very rare instances where I HAVE to force an ESP to load after another) since I started using Vortex.

 

[ShadowGryphon]

 

So short version of events my computer melted down and after a costly rebuild I've had to reinstall everything. Since I was still using NMM before my computer bought it, I'm now just learning Vortex and I'm seeing that it does its own load order so do I need to install/run LOOT or does that cause conflicts?

 

Nope.

Loot is built into Vortex, just turn on "Autosort" and forget about sorting ESPS, and focus instead on the more important sorting BSAs etc in order to get your textures working correctly.

 

Using LOOT with Vortex will just put you in a never ending loop of fighting with yourself.

 

 

 

OK and where is the autosort option?

[HadToRegister]

 

 

So short version of events my computer melted down and after a costly rebuild I've had to reinstall everything. Since I was still using NMM before my computer bought it, I'm now just learning Vortex and I'm seeing that it does its own load order so do I need to install/run LOOT or does that cause conflicts?

 

Nope.

Loot is built into Vortex, just turn on "Autosort" and forget about sorting ESPS, and focus instead on the more important sorting BSAs etc in order to get your textures working correctly.

 

Using LOOT with Vortex will just put you in a never ending loop of fighting with yourself.

 

 

 

OK and where is the autosort option?

 

 

 

It's a button.

Be sure to watch the Videos and read the tutorials

 

 

[ShadowGryphon]

 

 

 

So short version of events my computer melted down and after a costly rebuild I've had to reinstall everything. Since I was still using NMM before my computer bought it, I'm now just learning Vortex and I'm seeing that it does its own load order so do I need to install/run LOOT or does that cause conflicts?

 

Nope.

Loot is built into Vortex, just turn on "Autosort" and forget about sorting ESPS, and focus instead on the more important sorting BSAs etc in order to get your textures working correctly.

 

Using LOOT with Vortex will just put you in a never ending loop of fighting with yourself.

 

 

 

OK and where is the autosort option?

 

 

 

It's a button.

Be sure to watch the Videos and read the tutorials

 

 

 

Which videos? I'm already liking NMM and LOOT better and wish I could still use those, since the onboard LOOT of Vortex doesn't seem to be able to actually resolve the conflicts of a load order. x_x

[HadToRegister]

 

Which videos? I'm already liking NMM and LOOT better and wish I could still use those, since the onboard LOOT of Vortex doesn't seem to be able to actually resolve the conflicts of a load order. x_x

 

 

 

 

 

The tutorials right in the same bar as the Autosort Buttons

 

Vortex has a Superior Mod Conflict Resolving Ability.

NMM never told you about mod conflicts except to physically overwrite something

 

If you want to go back to NMM then go back to it

 

Click on INSTALL VORTEX at the top of every Nexus page, Scroll down and download the latest version from Github

 

There you go.

Hope that helps, have a nice day.

 

[ShadowGryphon]

 

 

Which videos? I'm already liking NMM and LOOT better and wish I could still use those, since the onboard LOOT of Vortex doesn't seem to be able to actually resolve the conflicts of a load order. x_x

 

 

 

 

 

The tutorials right in the same bar as the Autosort Buttons

 

Vortex has a Superior Mod Conflict Resolving Ability.

NMM never told you about mod conflicts except to physically overwrite something

 

If you want to go back to NMM then go back to it

 

Click on INSTALL VORTEX at the top of every Nexus page, Scroll down and download the latest version from Github

 

There you go.

Hope that helps, have a nice day.

 

 

Thank you, I'll give Vortex a fair shake but from the outset here it definitely seems like LOOT for NMM worked better than the onboard LOOT for Vortex, as with NMM I just told it to update and then sort and it did it, with Vortex it seems like it autosorts but it doesn't know how to resolve which mod is supposed to load before which other mod(s) on its own. So from that perspective it's like, "Isn't this program supposed to know how to do that?"

[sopmac45]

""" Thank you, I'll give Vortex a fair shake but from the outset here it definitely seems like LOOT for NMM worked better than the onboard LOOT for Vortex, as with NMM I just told it to update and then sort and it did it, with Vortex it seems like it autosorts but it doesn't know how to resolve which mod is supposed to load before which other mod(s) on its own. So from that perspective it's like, "Isn't this program supposed to know how to do that?" """

 

>> Nope. Wrong assumption and since you decided that NMM is better for you, it is not worth it to explain anything to you about Vortex. Have a nice day !

[ShadowGryphon]

""" Thank you, I'll give Vortex a fair shake but from the outset here it definitely seems like LOOT for NMM worked better than the onboard LOOT for Vortex, as with NMM I just told it to update and then sort and it did it, with Vortex it seems like it autosorts but it doesn't know how to resolve which mod is supposed to load before which other mod(s) on its own. So from that perspective it's like, "Isn't this program supposed to know how to do that?" """

 

>> Nope. Wrong assumption and since you decided that NMM is better for you, it is not worth it to explain anything to you about Vortex. Have a nice day !

Wow, okay. Randomly hostile attitude out of nowhere and for no good reason. All I was saying is for somebody who isn't the most technically-minded person when it comes to modding that NMM and LOOT seemed to do a better job of it, at least straight away. I downloaded them, installed them, and with the single click of a button I would have my load order ready to go. With Vortex when I reinstalled my mods it didn't seem to know how to fix any conflicts on its own, and had to ask me what to do instead.

 

If, as I mentioned, a person is not the best at the technical aspects of modding then being asked that sort of question by the very program that is supposed to know how to do this does not paint a very good first impression, is all I was saying. It does not mean I'm unwilling to try to learn the new program, it's merely an opinion of the first impression of NMM vs. the first impression of Vortex.

[AugustaCalidia]

 

Which videos? I'm already liking NMM and LOOT better and wish I could still use those, since the onboard LOOT of Vortex doesn't seem to be able to actually resolve the conflicts of a load order. x_x

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vortex does an outstanding job of managing plugin load order. For me, managing load orders has become a breeze since I started using Vortex. As for overlapping files (aka file conflicts), neither Vortex nor LOOT manages those, since they are not load order issues. In fact, every mod manager I know of leaves those management decisions up to you.

 

Watch the videos and read through the excellent Vortex Knowledge Base. You may be pleasantly surprised.