Vortex - disabled profile management errors

[NikVilKok]

Hi

Background

I did use Vortex profile management for a while (with saved files and ini's both enabled).

Then I didn't play for some extended time (months).

Next time I started up Vortex, it of course made a major update. And pretty much everything became messed up.

I decided that I didn't need Vortex profile management this time. Disabled the feature.

Then I cleared stuff out. Made a clean game install and downloaded all the mods again.

(Currently I've only have one game activated in Vortex, Fallout 4.)

 

Issue

For some unknown reason, I've not been able to find a pattern, sometimes Vortex believes it still should do profile management. It's not visible in the Vortex GUI, but there's a new (hashed named) folder added to my saved games folder and the ini-files are being messed with (get the ini.baked ones and old ini's activated).

 

Question

How do I stop this from happening (I don't want Vortex to interfere with my saves and inis)? (i.e how to fully disable Vortex profile management?)

[NikVilKok]

Some added info:

I was able to play earlier today. Made several saves.

Then I quit the game.

Downloaded another mod, that's not available on the nexus site. Drag-n-dropped the 7z pack to Vortex. Installed and enabled the mod.

Now I can't game because, when started from within Vortex, it believes that it's in profile mode and adds a new empty saved games folder (and the ini's have been changed), thus the game wants me to start a new game. Which I don't want to.

If I delete the new folder and revert the ini-changes, Vortex still adds the folder and changes ini-files during loading of the game. It actually starts loading with my preferred ini's and changes them during the load (I can clearly see this due to the fact that FO4 has a load indicator that you can change the colour of in the ini's. Which I've done.

[HadToRegister]

Did you "Remove" the profiles within Vortex?
Or did you delete the profile folders outside of Vortex?

 

This probably sounds like a dumb suggestion, but I would try Enabling Profile Management, then go to the profile screen and individually TURN OFF, the SAVE GAMES, and GAME SETTINGS for each profile, then go back and Disable the Profile Management feature in Settings.

I have a feeling there's something that's making the Save Game and Game Setting management "Stick" even when Profile management is Disabled.

Try that and let me know if it works

 

Ninja'd

[Tannin42]

When you disable profile management you get this dialog, explaining exactly that:

 

[NikVilKok]

Ok. So I must some how locate and delete the profile to make it work without profiles then?

 

Is there some way out of this without completely removing Vortex and download all the mods again??

 

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1)

I saw that dialog - my interpretation of it was - the last active profile will be used [and Vortex will function like it does without profile management] -> i.e. that last active profile's mods and saved games will be put in the base folders (the rest of the profiles will be kept in some Vortex attic).

 

It doesn't say that Vortex still will act as if there's several profiles and that it will keep using the [old - but apparently still in use] folders and ini's. I'm not angry about it, but you can't seriously expect any user to understand from that information that the ini-files can't ever be edited again?

 

Basically what it should say is that you can delete profiles, but you can't ever go back. Or something to that end. Writing these texts are hard, I know. And foreseeing how every stupid user will mishandle the software is even harder. Sorry.

 

2)

why did it work for a while? (I don't expect an answer to this - I guess it will be "who knows" - I can't tell you exactly what I did to make it work :huh: , so how the f--- would you be able to answer why or what :laugh: )

 

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Big thanks for the swift answers, and even more thanks for developing the program!

[HadToRegister]

Ok. So I must some how locate and delete the profile to make it work without profiles then?

 

Is there some way out of this without completely removing Vortex and download all the mods again??

 

 

 

 

OK, see the Orange Button in the profile where it says EDIT?

 

Click on the little dropdown arrow next to the word EDIT and pick REMOVE (BACK UP ANY SAVE GAMES YOU HAVE IN THE PROFILE FOLDER IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THEM)

Do the same with any other ones you have, but they will have ENABLE instead of EDIT in the Orange Button

 

THEN you can disable Profiles in the SETTINGS Menu

 

 

 

[NikVilKok]

Sorry. Did not work. Vortex still creates the profile's saved games folder and starts from within it.

The saves aren't really the issue. I can just move all my saves into the profile's folder.

It's the overwriting of inis that's the real problem.

 

(btw, I only have one profile and one game in Vortex atm.)

 

 

[NikVilKok]

Interesting. Killing and restarting Vortex made no difference. (I did that between all changes mentioned by HadToRegister)

 

So then I played a while (with the save files in the profile folder). Made a few saves etc.

 

Then I took a break.

 

Restarted Vortex. Downloaded a few new mods. Removed some that I hadn't enabled. Did a manual deployment.

 

Starting up the game. Suddenly I'm no longer in the profile games folder. All progress I've made earlier gone. (Not really, they where of course in the profile's folder. But I could not see them from within the game.) I kill the game and Vortex. Rename the profile's folder (I add a "-" before the hashed folder name). Copy the newest saves from the profile's folder to the main folder. I fire up Vortex again and the game. Now everything looks as it should. I check the file system. No new profile folder have been created (remember I renamed it to test just that).

 

Thus. Right now the saved games works. No new profile folder is being created. But the ini's are stilled baked. :confused: