Save / load problem after updating SKSE

[ghneu]

Hi,

 

I have serious problems after updating SKSE, nexus mod manager and LOOT.

 

At the beginning I was trying to fix a bug and ended up thinking it occured because of SKSE not being up to date, or my load order not being correct... So I updated the 3 of them.

 

Now, I can load a save from before I updated, all my mods work correctly. But any new save I create is a total mess (no hair, no equipment, all quests and mods reinitialising et registering to MCM). If I disable all plugins, I just can't load anything (says the saves are corrupt).

 

When I updated SKSE, I used a procedure that might be the cause of this. Usually I copy the files (not the folders) in my game folder (where the executable is), I then 7zip the "data" folder and put it in my NMM download manager. But this time, I copied the files AND the data folder in my game directory. I might have corrupted my data folder in the merging process ?

 

Would anyone have an idea of where to start to restore the saving / loading process ?

 

Here is my load order :

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

Falskaar.esm=1

Gray Fox Cowl.esm=1

Sneak Tools.esp=1

Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1

SkyUI_SE.esp=1

Hair Replacer.esp=1

Hair Replacer Assets.esp=1

Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp=1

Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp=1

Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp=1

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1

Undeath.esp=1

SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

Rigmor.esp=1

JKs Skyrim.esp=1

MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=1

RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp=1

Lakeview_Extended.esp=1

Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esp=1

Helgen Reborn.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp=1

tcbm.esp=1

Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1

Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp=0

Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp=1

Vivid Weathers SE - LightingDuringStorm Patch.esp=0

Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1

Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1

Solitude Expansion.esp=1

MCoW_AnimatedClutter.esp=1

SAFO.esp=1

Hunting in Skyrim.esp=1

OpulentThievesGuild.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp=1

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1

Immersive Music.esp=1

Immersive Encounters.esp=1

Keep It Clean.esp=1

Dwarfsphere.esp=1

TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp=1

DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1

HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp=1

DynamicDungeonLoot.esp=1

Combat Evolved.esp=1

Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp=1

Keep It Clean - Falskaar patch.esp=1

Keep It Clean - Bruma patch.esp=0

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

Inigo.esp=1

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp=1

Darkwater Crossing.esp=1

MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

Shiva's Vanilla Clothing Replacer.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp=1

Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1

Bijin NPCs.esp=1

Bijin Wives.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

Improved Adoptions.esp=1

Improved Adoptions DLC Houses.esp=1

Skaal Village.esp=1

Shor's Stone.esp=1

Hunterborn.esp=1

Keep it Clean - Hunterborn Soaps Patch.esp=1

0Kaidan.esp=1

BosmerArmorMATY743.esp=1

MistySkye.esp=1

Ivarstead.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp=1

Qw_SofiaFollower_GDO Patch.esp=1

DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp=1

JKs Skyrim_Ivarstead_Patch.esp=1

Kynesgrove.esp=1

Whistling Mine.esp=1

Soljund's Sinkhole.esp=1

Karthwasten.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp=1

PrinceandPauper.esp=1

RSChildren.esp=1

CommonClothes.esp=1

FalmerDreamer.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

Dragon Bridge.esp=1

JKs Skyrim_Dragon Bridge_Patch.esp=1

ForgottenCity.esp=1

LADX_SSE.esp=1

JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp=1

R.B Standalone Follower.esp=1

R.B Runa Standalone Follower.esp=1

Lucien.esp=1

MHdunSky001.esp=1

moonpath.esp=1

Hedge Mage Armor.esp=1

ZWJ_V4.esp=1

ZTH_V4.esp=1

LycHairstyler.esp=1

FNIS.esp=1

XPMSE.esp=1

LazyBodyEdit.esp=1

LazyItemHider.esp=1

JS Armored Circlets SE.esp=1

Ranger Outfit.esp=1

ShieldsofSkyrimLists.esp=1

Craftable Clothing.esp=1

Craftable Clothing - Bone Hawk Ring DLC.esp=1

Craftable Clothing - Vampire Clothes DLC.esp=1

Craftable Clothing - Dunmer Clothes DLC.esp=1

Craftable Clothing - Skaal Clothing DLC.esp=1

ColovianNobleClothes.esp=1

Cloaks - USSEEP Patch - No Imperial.esp=1

LeftHandRings.esp=1

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1

ZNI_V4.esp=1

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1

LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp=1

WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1

Elven Archer Armor.esp=1

AsharaElvenKnight.esp=1

LinkleOutfit.esp=1

Seraphim - Ashara POTW.esp=1

zzArmormashups.esp=1

LEKatarina.esp=1

ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp=1

Hedge Mage Armor - Craftable Module.esp=1

NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp=1

CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp=1

Black Mage Armor SE.esp=1

StormLord.esp=1

TheHermit.esp=1

BloodWitchArmor.esp=1

ZAB_V4.esp=1

ZAS_V4.esp=1

ZAU_V4.esp=1

ZBB_V4.esp=1

ZBW_V4.esp=1

ZCH_V4.esp=1

ZCV_V4.esp=1

ZDB_V4.esp=1

ZEB_V4.esp=1

ZEM_V4.esp=1

ZGA_V4.esp=1

ZKT_V4.esp=1

ZMB_V4.esp=1

ZMR_V4.esp=1

ZMS_V4.esp=1

ZNB_V4.esp=1

ZOI_V4.esp=1

ZRA_V4.esp=1

ZRH_V4.esp=1

ZRN_V4.esp=1

ZSB_V4.esp=1

ZSC_V4.esp=1

ZSH_V4.esp=1

ZSM_V4.esp=1

ZSR_V4.esp=1

ZSY_V4.esp=1

ZVD_V4.esp=1

ZWT_V4.esp=1

Enchanting Freedom.esp=1

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1

Ars Metallica.esp=1

SAFO - RND.esp=1

HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp=1

Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp=1

Cloaks - No Imperial - Dawnguard.esp=1

Dr_Bandolier.esp=1

SkyrimRecycling.esp=1

SimpleOutfitManager.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp=1

BecomeABard.esp=1

LazyRenamer.esp=1

Critical Hit.esp=1

TKDodge.esp=1

HitStop.esp=1

Buster - Johnskyrim.esp=1

Allinonefpsfix.esp=1

Gigaduex_Outfit.esp=1

Drow Armor Set.esp=1

RogueSorceressRetextured.esp=1

aaatheRed.esp=1

Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp=1

DragonLordSwords.esp=1

Contractor Armor.esp=1

LustmordVampireArmor.esp=1

ValkyrieSwordShield.esp=1

Mavari Armor.esp=1

KozakowySteampunkOutfit.esp=1

el_gildeddoubletset.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

R18pn - Shanoa Armour SE.esp=1

TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp=1

R18Pn - Ritter Armor - Heavy.esp=1

R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp=1

NightshadeSuit.esp=1

Lucien-MoonandStar-Patch.esp=1

Lucien-Moonpath-Patch.esp=1

Lucien-ShivaVanillaClothing-Patch.esp=1

RSC Falskaar Patch.esp=1

RSC MoonAndStar Patch.esp=1

RSC Rigmor Patch.esp=1

RSC Solitude Expansion Patch.esp=1

RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp=1

RSC CRF Patch.esp=1

RSC HR Patch.esp=1

TERAArmorsSSE.esp=1

TeraArmorsSSE Leveled Lists Rare.esp=1

SAFO - Frostfall.esp=0

Draconic Bloodline.esp=1

1kjbrmf.esp=1

Gloria.esp=1

Malerith.esp=1

2blueberry.esp=1

Follower.esp=1

_Rosie Follower.esp=1

calyps-bosmer.esp=1

Skyla Renewal.esp=1

Sheale.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

El_WayfarersCoatSSE.esp=1

WestWindAssault.esp=1

Daedric Chainmail - CBBE(SSE)Bodyslide.esp=1

Alduin78_StarWars.esp=1

Justice Stalhrim Armor.esp=1

Serana.esp=1

Valerica.esp=1

yurica_slayer [NON-HDT].esp=1

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1

Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1

HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp=1

Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1

Lock_Overhaul.esp=0

Soul Release - Ordinator Version.esp=1

Edited March 4, 2019 by ghneu

[Deleted58783396User]

the only solution is to start a brand new game, or put all mods back in the same order they were before you updated everything.

 

it is messed up is because the load order has changed in the active playthrough, this then moves all data in all mods in to different locations.

 

example say you have 2 eye replacer mods, using 1 of them in the character creation will make the character have blue eyes for example, and then moving that eye mod in the load order, and then attempting to go into the race menu again in the same save, will now result in the character having green eyes (again as an example). this is because of the load order data stored in the save game is being changed.

 

however placing the 1st mod back in the original place, will then restore the original blue eyes.

 

Note: the above example is just that. i am using specific colours to make it easier to understand.

[ghneu]

But then how is that possible that old saves work perfectly on load, with all mods working perfectly ? Only new saves are messed up.

[sodaRAIN10]

Wasn't skyrim se updated? Been off of it for two months now. I'm getting skyui error and some mods that require skse64 no longer work for me :\

Edited March 5, 2019 by sodaRAIN10

[ghneu]

December I think.

[Pippboss]

Sometimes the only thing one can do is start a new play through. Due to the forced updates from Bethesda an that silly creation club (not a fan). Last time it happened I made damn sure I could roll back before I sent my SSE off the cliff by backing up my SSE.exe

[ghneu]

Erf. Guess it's an opportunity to try "alternate start"... *just bummed about losing a 8 month game*

[saurusmaximus]

If you didn't make a copy of your load order before you reorganized it, you're kinda screwed. Other than starting a new game- making sure your LO is correct this time - your only other option is is to manually play with it to see if you can get things working again.

 

Edit-I would also check your Data/SKSE folder to make sure you you didn't accidentally overwrite the mod info you had there.

[ghneu]

If you didn't make a copy of your load order before you reorganized it, you're kinda screwed. Other than starting a new game- making sure your LO is correct this time - your only other option is is to manually play with it to see if you can get things working again.

 

I'll try to deactivate the most recent mods. As I regularly use LOOT, if the sorting is more or less the same before and after updating, I might end up with the right load order (if I'm lucky). I don't really understand why my old saves work alright with all mods OK and only new saves are broken. Is there a mod index somewhere which is used on save/load ?

 

Edit-I would also check your Data/SKSE folder to make sure you you didn't accidentally overwrite the mod info you had there.

 

What file should I check ? The only file modified recently in this folder is "CharacterMakingExtender".

Edited March 7, 2019 by ghneu

[saurusmaximus]

 

I'll try to deactivate the most recent mods. As I regularly use LOOT, if the sorting is more or less the same before and after updating, I might end up with the right load order (if I'm lucky). I don't really understand why my old saves work alright with all mods OK and only new saves are broken. Is there a mod index somewhere which is used on save/load ?

 

I am thinking you got a few mods that are out of order with each other, causing some unwanted overwrites, and that is why you are missing textures,equipment, etc.

 

 

 

What file should I check ? The only file modified recently in this folder is "CharacterMakingExtender".

 

As to SKSE, you need to look at every mod you have that uses SKSE, and figure out what each one is supposed to have in the Data/SKSE folder. It sounds like you are missing a few things.