Arthmoor Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I don't think the OP was asking to block people from downloading. Only to block them from commenting. It's a system that works phenomenally well to squelch trolls over on the Steam Workshop - one of the very few good things about how their system is set up. I have no idea if it actually blocks people from downloading your mods, but it does block them from filling up your comments, profile, and other spaces full of crap. View comments from forum side. Ta-da!And this is something people neglect to consider. You can already see that down-repping a nasty comment doesn't hide it on the forum side. So I doubt there'd be a way to selectively bar users from posting their replies via the forum instead. Unless IPB has a permission setup that fine grained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted2547005User Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 True. I don't know where that came from, but it should be considered all the same, just in case some brings it up in the future. That aside, the original poster's request makes sense and is arguably doable, but it must, as you have pointed out, be a global prevention. But what about those who respond (quote) that comment a troll has made? I don't think there is a way to prevent that from occurring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippinstrano Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I've been busy for a bit with some personal projects, but up until a couple of weeks ago I was very active in working with a couple of different mod authors by testing their creations and helping them with design. I read the earlier conversation about the horrors that would be inflicted upon the Nexus by allowing donations. Near as I can tell, the Dark One hasn't awakened and eaten all of our children. I believe this is much the same sort of problem. There are concerns about how terrible it would be if mod authors can ban users from their mods' topics and delete unwanted posts within those same topics. Let's see.....I believe the person who creates the mod that the topics are for is the....mod author. And I believe the mod authors are not paid to produce their mods. Given this, why in the world would it be a problem if a mod author could control what is in the topics related to their mods? I don't believe anyone is harmed OR enriched based on the content of a mods' topics. Endorsements, FOTM votes, donations and downloads all happen outside of the forums. So if a mod author wants to run the topics for their mods like a lunatic, fine. If I download a mod, can't use it, and then can't get help with it because the author bans me from the mod's topics, well, I probably won't endorse, vote for or donate based on that mod. Frankly, I'm more concerned with mod author burn out from being asked the same questions every day than I am with users not being able to post "HOW WORK??????????" in forums. That all stated, is there much of a possibility of such a change being made? Further, I'd suggest (if possible without it being horribly difficult) that the mod author being able to grant someone else the rights needed to moderate their topics. That allows less technically sophisticated users (like myself) to have another way to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazaCovek Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 What about User Images? If blocked, some one can use that as a bypass to the comments. Perhaps the modders should have a checkbox custom control of what they want available for players to to access, say Intro, Author image, Download and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippinstrano Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Yeah, after I had made my earlier post, I had thought about the user pictures. Yes, since user pictures can get a mod banned, the mod author should absoutely be allowed to ban a user from posting user pictures. To make it simple, I'd not allow anyone to post pics or videos who is banned from the topics for a mod. There are a million places to say that a mod sux. It doesn't need to happen in the mod's topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazaCovek Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I regularly find that commenters have their words taken 180 degrees out of context. I keep refering to 'CM Mane 6' pony girl mod as an example. Those despise the mod gets half a dozen reps [rainbow puke pic], while those who promote it get negatives. I beleive that such a unique mod should be upgraded to it's own game world [negative reps]. Players inform the author of glitches/incompatibilities/overlaps [also negatives]. You have to assume that there are people who always will see the world [24/7/365] through red colored sunglasses, and will always accuse everybody else of having red faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 What about User Images? If blocked, some one can use that as a bypass to the comments. Images on mod uploads can be set to require the uploaders approval before being shown to the public, if they find an images they don't like, they deny it's process and it's never seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 It's a system that works phenomenally well to squelch trolls over on the Steam Workshop - one of the very few good things about how their system is set up I'm surprised you think it's a good thing considering it's also been used against you (the comment moderation) to prevent you from protesting about people stealing or changing your work in ways you don't like. Original author comes along and tells everyone the mod is stolen? Pfft, I'll just delete all his comments and block him from posting here again... It's another one of these features that works well if we live in an ideal world where all mod authors are mature, respectable individuals (or all mod downloaders are mature, respectable individuals...) but it gets proven time and time again that not all of them are, and it's a case of a few bad apples ruining it for the rest of you. To this day we'll still have mod authors report comments on their file threads that are exactly the type of thing we don't want to be deleting; comments along the line of "Love what you've done here, however I feel that the building might be better placed to the right on top of the hill so that you can get better panoramic views of the area. Just a suggestion, keep up the good work". There's absolutely no problem with these sorts of comments and I see no reason why that sort of post should be deleted just because the mod author has requested it be deleted. If you want absolute, non-negotiable control over all the content generated to do with your mod (such as the comments) with no oversight then my number one suggestion is to release it on your own site where you can get that control. You can still publish the mod to the Nexus, you just have to disable the comments and point people to your own forum or site in your site description or mirrors. Then you can control things all you like! But we want a community where users can share their wants, wishes, feedback and constructive criticism openly without the threat of an author getting (in our opinion) unnecessarily upset at what was a completely innocent remark, which is something we see regularly in the reports we received. Our opinion is influenced heavily by the mod authors who use this site, and their feedback is invaluable on what should be considered feedback/constructive criticism and what should be considered rude/trolling, but while this site is still mine, I'd like to have the final say on the matter. Because a small minority of mod authors are quite silly on the matter. And I think I'm less silly ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 What about automatically hiding posts reported by mod authors? mods look at these reports anyway so making a post visible again shouldn't add too much work when that post is found to be reasonable, those authors who abuse the system can be treated in the same way people who make pointless reports are dealt with already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeTheDragon Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I regularly find that commenters have their words taken 180 degrees out of context. I keep refering to 'CM Mane 6' pony girl mod as an example. Those despise the mod gets half a dozen reps [rainbow puke pic], while those who promote it get negatives. I beleive that such a unique mod should be upgraded to it's own game world [negative reps]. Players inform the author of glitches/incompatibilities/overlaps [also negatives]. You have to assume that there are people who always will see the world [24/7/365] through red colored sunglasses, and will always accuse everybody else of having red faces.It's not a matter of having one's words taken 180 degrees out of context. It's not the mod author giving out those negative reps. It's neg-rep trolling. People who dislike the mod go paint every supporter's comments in red to express their dislike and plus-rep those who think the same. It's a circumventium of the rules and a very effective one, as it's anonymous to the outside world. In my opinion it should be as much a bannable offence as putting your dislike into words is. Or just shut off reputation entirely. Don't like a mod? Move on in silence. Don't comment, don't rep-troll, as your opinion doesn't matter and nobody wants to hear it. The thumbs down for mod uploads was removed for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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