Are we Squandersing our Creativity.

[Deleted54170User]

Has the Internet prepared children not to be creative?

 

https://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity

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https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_bring_on_the_revolution

 

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[montky]

An interesting question Pagafyr,

considering previous allusions to this topic made in your prior threads "Rocketships" and "Moley Chef Arm" etc.

 

 

are we squandering our creativity?

A: possibly,

though what is that relative to?

 

In terms of civilizations (the information economy vs 'fall of rome"/ 'end of civilizations" etc?)

or in terms of information theory --- kardashev scale etc,

or in terms of personal self-actualization and contentedness etc?

 

 

Has the Internet prepared our descendants to be uncreative?

"The Internet" as an emergent ASI, 'nous-sphere",

often gets blamed for things beyond its control.

the internet may be a factor in the multivariate - though it isn't the majority or only factor.

 

The Descendants own autodidaciticsm/ 'spirit of learning' in Epistemology, Andragogy and Pedagogy,

is also a key factor.

as much as is how Andragogy and Pedagogy have changed since 1950s.

[Deleted54170User]

I'll get back to this after I have refreshed the key meaning of Sir Robinson's TED Talk, and how I came to use squandering instead of focusing more to what he has been talking about.

 

I learned about his follow up talks only today. Listened to all three in a row. Thankfully my notes here gave me the link to the past I had lost when Windows 10 overwrote my licensed Student Office on my Windows 7 OS. I killed the hard drive trying to reverse the set up so all my licensed software didn't become part of the new office offer for $9.99 a month when I already paid hundreds of dollars for the full Microsoft Office other stuff.

 

After all that struggling to regain my owned licenses I didn't remember seeing the first talk back when it was first shown on TED.COM until I reviewed my thread and saw the post. That Windows 10 stuff ripped my mind to shreds trying to salvage my hard drive and find my backup flash drives that had all my notes.

 

From the post I wrote right after the one I put the link to his speech I can see it shook me right down to my own pitiful reality which seemed void of a goal other then to serve without ever having the time to fantasize about what I wanted to do when I grew up or had I time to expand my horizons using the toys I had using them long enough to have an imagination develop that might have led to a career via finding what interests in studies I could have had and a career it might have provided me too.

 

Thanks for leaving me some stuff to study and some to refresh my memory.

[Deleted54170User]

Well. That was refreshing. The logic of 1964 and Back to the Future all in three pages with good clip notes to save time reading.

[MrJoseCuervo]

When I was a kid I literally had rocks and sticks to playwith. I also spent most of my time outdoors playing in creeks and climbing rocks.

 

I think the digital age has damaged our society greatly.

[HeyYou]

When I was a kid I literally had rocks and sticks to playwith. I also spent most of my time outdoors playing in creeks and climbing rocks.

 

I think the digital age has damaged our society greatly.

And there is a point I can most certainly agree with you on.

 

The whole 'kids requiring cell phones', has led to a society that favors electronic communication, over in-person, face to face. This is a horrible loss for us. Social skills are becoming non-existent.

[Freyadiin]

I'd disagree with electronic communication being inherently worse than in person, face to face. There are merits to each. I'd also say that in person social skills are still entirely relevant. The overwhelming majority of jobs and schools require you to be physically present, so there's no lack of opportunities to socialise face to face. Yes, there are people who prefer to stay indoors all the time and have trouble socialising with others in person, but that's not a new phenomenon at all.

 

As for creativity, we're hardly lacking and a quick trip through the Internet would demonstrate so, in my opinion. And the Internet is a great place to learn skills to enable oneself to be creative too. Don't know how to draw? There are plenty of tutorials on the Internet. Want to find a dance instructor? Google is your friend.

[HeyYou]

I'd disagree with electronic communication being inherently worse than in person, face to face. There are merits to each. I'd also say that in person social skills are still entirely relevant. The overwhelming majority of jobs and schools require you to be physically present, so there's no lack of opportunities to socialise face to face. Yes, there are people who prefer to stay indoors all the time and have trouble socialising with others in person, but that's not a new phenomenon at all.

 

As for creativity, we're hardly lacking and a quick trip through the Internet would demonstrate so, in my opinion. And the Internet is a great place to learn skills to enable oneself to be creative too. Don't know how to draw? There are plenty of tutorials on the Internet. Want to find a dance instructor? Google is your friend.

When folks would rather text the person sitting next to them, as opposed to turning and speaking to them, there is a problem.

 

Granted, when used properly, electronic communication makes our lives better. For certain values thereof...... but, there IS such a thing as taking it too far.

[Freyadiin]

When folks would rather text the person sitting next to them, as opposed to turning and speaking to them, there is a problem.

 

Granted, when used properly, electronic communication makes our lives better. For certain values thereof...... but, there IS such a thing as taking it too far.

Agreed on both points. Although I will say I've never personally seen the first one happen with the exception of people needing to communicate sensitive information without being overheard.

[HeyYou]

 

When folks would rather text the person sitting next to them, as opposed to turning and speaking to them, there is a problem.

 

Granted, when used properly, electronic communication makes our lives better. For certain values thereof...... but, there IS such a thing as taking it too far.

Agreed on both points. Although I will say I've never personally seen the first one happen with the exception of people needing to communicate sensitive information without being overheard.

 

Hang out with teenagers..... or folks just out of their teens. :) (I have grandkids.....) Though I have seen 'adults' doing it as well.