gRecaptcha - please re-implement non-google fallback

[kamikatze13]

basically, title.

 

I approved of the fallback captcha when it was introduced, which presented a sufficient workaround for all of us majorly incapacitated by gRecaptcha v3.

Sadly, it seems this fallback solution disappeared.

 

Please bring back the fallback captcha or make use of another provider (dunno if the latter is possible, seeing that you now make use of cloudflare, another usability nightmare). I have a static IP that seems flagged by google, which results in at least five *successful* captchas to bypass, which can in turn take up to 15 min.

 

For the time being, let's just say I'm not going to spend another 15 mins on trying to login again any time soon. If no solution is presented, i seem forced to retire the account and acquire mods from *other sites* not requiring draconic login measures. arrr! and if anybody versed in the nexusmods api is reading - feel free to pm me a possibility of downloading mods w/o the website - i have an API key, maybe i can cobble together a CLI downloader?

 

all that said, here's a more constructive suggestion: disable captchas for all accounts who have 2FA setup, just as the infamous, adult-themed site we don't talk about, already has done for years.

 

hopefully not my last post on the nexus,

cheers,

[kamikatze13]

as a temporary workaround for all of you who just want to download mods without having to log in, i've thrown together a powershell script that does exactly that. i'll resort to using that until we get a more pleasant login experience.

 

sadly only works if you have a premium account, that's a desired limitation of the nexusmods API.

[PG1]

It took me over a full minute to log in just to say I wholeheartedly agree, especially about disabling Google reCaptcha for those with 2FA. It's not even secure, they've had to replace it 3 times because it keeps getting cracked (publicly, more were uncovered but not released).

Edited November 24, 2019 by PG1

[SpaceWombatt]

It took me over a full minute to log in just to say I wholeheartedly agree, especially about disabling Google reCaptcha for those with 2FA. It's not even secure, they've had to replace it 3 times because it keeps getting cracked (publicly, more were uncovered but not released).

Security is not the goal, google pays sites to use its captcha, we are being used as menial labor to train its picture recognition algorithms and nexus is pocketing our salary

[RollFizzlebeef766]

I approved of the fallback captcha when it was introduced, which presented a sufficient workaround for all of us majorly incapacitated by gRecaptcha v3.

Sadly, it seems this fallback solution disappeared.

 

Please bring back the fallback captcha

I second this. I have no objections to Nexus taking security precautions, but I have huge issues with Google tracking me that I raised the last time this issue came up.

[Pickysaurus]

 

It took me over a full minute to log in just to say I wholeheartedly agree, especially about disabling Google reCaptcha for those with 2FA. It's not even secure, they've had to replace it 3 times because it keeps getting cracked (publicly, more were uncovered but not released).

Security is not the goal, google pays sites to use its captcha, we are being used as menial labor to train its picture recognition algorithms and nexus is pocketing our salary

 

 

This is objectively false. Please do not spread misinformation.

 

Regarding the topic at hand, we will not be adding a fallback as when we researched it there are no non-reCaptcha options that offer comparable security.

 

One thing to consider - the more "paranoid" you set your privacy settings to, the more things like reCaptcha will not work correctly. If you're using anything that blocks JavaScript, cookies or any other standard web technologies you'll have problems with other sites too, not just Nexus Mods. The onus is on you to manage your settings in such a way that you can continue to use the sites you enjoy. Thanks for understanding :)

[kamikatze13]

zero understanding. usability on the nexus goes further down the drain every few months.

 

preaching security while simultaneously suggesting the users compromise theirs. great answer. just because tracking and javascript (which btw can go die in a fire, it's an awful language) became more standard doesn't mean it's a good thing.

 

third party scripts are blocked, cookies are being deleted each time the browser is closed. ads are blocked via hardware firewall/filter at the router. if a website can't handle that, i'm not gonna use it.

[dude2000]

 

 

It took me over a full minute to log in just to say I wholeheartedly agree, especially about disabling Google reCaptcha for those with 2FA. It's not even secure, they've had to replace it 3 times because it keeps getting cracked (publicly, more were uncovered but not released).

Security is not the goal, google pays sites to use its captcha, we are being used as menial labor to train its picture recognition algorithms and nexus is pocketing our salary

 

 

This is objectively false. Please do not spread misinformation.

 

Regarding the topic at hand, we will not be adding a fallback as when we researched it there are no non-reCaptcha options that offer comparable security.

 

One thing to consider - the more "paranoid" you set your privacy settings to, the more things like reCaptcha will not work correctly. If you're using anything that blocks JavaScript, cookies or any other standard web technologies you'll have problems with other sites too, not just Nexus Mods. The onus is on you to manage your settings in such a way that you can continue to use the sites you enjoy. Thanks for understanding :smile:

 

Until just today reCaptcha worked for me on Mozilla Firefox. Of course I have NoScript but I allowed all scripts on Nexus, and it worked without problems. BUT: not today! I have not changed anything. Now I am using Opera, which actually works (of course, otherwise I could not even tell you what's wrong). Apparantly, there is no connection to reCaptcha in Firefox. BUT, on the other "unmentionable site" (the one with the alliteration in its name) it worked just minutes before. So, what is the problem? It was Ghostery, because Google is tracking you!

[Arthmoor]

It's not like Ghostery is some paragon of virtue though. THEY are tracking you too.