The shaming of non-premium users needs to stop!

[fireundubh]

I think it's a sign of greed personally.

The Nexus promotes its offerings to bring in revenue to keep the lights on and reward mod authors.

 

The users who have free accounts want everything for free without interruptions, distractions, or limitations forever - damn the costs!

 

Who's greedy again?

 

You liked my donut story but you clearly missed the point.

[HadToRegister]

Heh, I just found out that Lifetime premium went DOWN in price by $20. $10 (I converted from Euros to Dollars instead of Pounds, DERP!!)

When I bought it back in 2008, it was $75, now it's $55 $65

[peppupeikko]

Amazing show from all the Premium users, thank you for your valuable white knighting of Nexus. I'm sure it made all of us filthy freeloaders to promptly run to purchase Premium membership. Getting multiple nag screens for every file, regardless of its size, is just amazing, and it's also fantastic when you're downloading multiple files (compatibility patches for example) from the same page, because the nag screen breaks Chrome's memory of where you were on the download files page. But it wouldn't be the first time when a website or a service overreaches in a strange obsession for expansion and collapses into bankruptcy.

[axonis]

 

The users who have free accounts want everything for free without interruptions, distractions, or limitations forever - damn the costs!

 

Regarding the vast majority of mods here (edit: I mean those for Bethesda's games), it's actually the mod authors that offer their mods for free. These are Bethesda's terms.

 

Nexus cannot legally charge for mods, regardless of the costs.

Edited December 18, 2019 by axonis

[fireundubh]

Regarding the vast majority of mods here (edit: I mean those for Bethesda's games), it's actually the mod authors that offer their mods for free. These are Bethesda's terms.

 

Nexus cannot legally charge for mods, regardless of the costs.

1. There are 858 games on the Nexus, not just the few games by Bethesda.

 

2. Bethesda can't and won't tell the Nexus how to run its business.

 

3. Consequently, the Nexus can charge for any number of things related to its services, including storage space, download rates, traffic/bandwidth limits, file upload/download limits, page limits, API limits, and other systems and features. There are many, many places where Nexus can monetize and, you know what, they don't.

Edited December 18, 2019 by fireundubh

[Arthmoor]

But it wouldn't be the first time when a website or a service overreaches in a strange obsession for expansion and collapses into bankruptcy.

The only thing likely to drive them to bankruptcy is self-entitled users who think they're owed lifetime freebies. Websites don't run on unicorn farts and rainbow trolls.

 

 

Regarding the vast majority of mods here (edit: I mean those for Bethesda's games), it's actually the mod authors that offer their mods for free. These are Bethesda's terms.

 

Nexus cannot legally charge for mods, regardless of the costs.

1. There are 858 games on the Nexus, not just the few games by Bethesda.

 

2. Bethesda can't and won't tell the Nexus how to run its business.

 

3. Consequently, the Nexus can charge for any number of things related to its services, including storage space, download rates, traffic/bandwidth limits, file upload/download limits, page limits, API limits, and other systems and features. There are many, many places where Nexus can monetize and, you know what, they don't.

 

I'd further add:

 

4. Nexus could make the entire site subscription-only and it would not be in violation of Bethesda's (or any other publisher's) terms because there is no right to free access to someone's bandwidth and Todd can't tell them otherwise as long as the mods themselves are not being sold as products.

[StormWolf01]

 

 

 

Axonis- LOL yeah, I saw that too.

Here's the answer to that question tho, in the same page that was linked to before.

 

Fair Use Policy

Attempting to download files or otherwise record data offered through our services (including but not limited to the Nexus Mods website and the Nexus Mods API) in a fashion that drastically exceeds the expected average, through the use of software automation or otherwise, is prohibited without expressed permission. Users found in violation of this policy will have their account suspended.

as somebody who HAS been thru technical schooling, (and a former network administrator) I can, without a doubt, say that EVERY network has a record somewhere, of who has been doing what. In this case, a record of downloads. So if you think, oh, I can get away with this.... Somewhere, there IS a record that said person, has been doing it.

 

Now, in regards to the question of whether somebody is staff or not. A great many of us here, will make the friendly gesture of mentioning to another member, that they're breaking the rules, with the hopes that they will avoid getting themselves into trouble, and losing their ability to be here.

Just letting somebody know that they could get into trouble, doesn't mean that person is a member of the staff, trying to pretend to be a member of the staff, or anything of the kind. It just means "Hey, that could or will get you into trouble".

Thank You. I am one of the individuals that do appreciate a heads up on such things...

 

 

 

 

 

There's really no point in purchasing premium as you can just run a script with grease/violent monkey and completely erase the naggy popup every time you download a mod. I'm also pretty sure you can uncap the download speed with a third party download software for chrome.

 

 

 

There's really no point in purchasing premium as you can just run a script with grease/violent monkey and completely erase the naggy popup every time you download a mod. I'm also pretty sure you can uncap the download speed with a third party download software for chrome.

The people who do that tend to get banned pretty quick. Especially the ones who try and bypass the download speed limits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's really no point in purchasing premium as you can just run a script with grease/violent monkey and completely erase the naggy popup every time you download a mod. I'm also pretty sure you can uncap the download speed with a third party download software for chrome.

The people who do that tend to get banned pretty quick. Especially the ones who try and bypass the download speed limits.

 

 

Banning doesn't really effect anyone though, as you can create multiple accounts pretty easily.

 

 

 

 

To further add to what was posted about using the script for bypassing the download screen. Here's a good example.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/8243033-rgmage2-formal-warning-issued/

 

 

posting a link to a script which bypasses a site notification

From our TaP...

"You will use Nexus Mods services reasonably and as intended. You may not display, duplicate, dismantle, reverse engineer, circumvent, or repurpose any property or service owned or operated by Nexus Mods without consent. You will not intentionally harm, disparage, or in any way disrupt the operation of Nexus Mods websites, systems, property, or staff."

 

In response to the post about making multiple accounts.

Just one of the multitude of examples of people who thought the same, that they could just make a new account after getting banned.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/8242763-lordmarksman-banned/

There are tools available to sniff you out.

 

 

 

Regarding the vast majority of mods here (edit: I mean those for Bethesda's games), it's actually the mod authors that offer their mods for free. These are Bethesda's terms.

Nexus cannot legally charge for mods, regardless of the costs.

1. There are 858 games on the Nexus, not just the few games by Bethesda.

 

2. Bethesda can't and won't tell the Nexus how to run its business.

 

3. Consequently, the Nexus can charge for any number of things related to its services, including storage space, download rates, traffic/bandwidth limits, file upload/download limits, page limits, API limits, and other systems and features. There are many, many places where Nexus can monetize and, you know what, they don't.

 

 

2. True, to an extent.

However, Bugthesda can have their team of lawyers send off "Cease and Desist" requests, and threaten litigation if those "requests" (IE- Demands) aren't adhered to.

 

The whole reason the Nexus is still here, is because it has to play by the rules set up by the other companies. If the nexus doesn't play by those rules, and adhere to the terms of use set out by the other companies, they can end up in court. And, as I said before, A judge can not only order a hefty fine for payment of damages, they can also order the site to be shut down.

[StormWolf01]

 

I think it's a sign of greed personally.

The Nexus promotes its offerings to bring in revenue to keep the lights on and reward mod authors.

 

The users who have free accounts want everything for free without interruptions, distractions, or limitations forever - damn the costs!

 

Who's greedy again?

 

You liked my donut story but you clearly missed the point.

 

As one of the users of said free accounts, I'm asking to please not lump us all in together.

My only complaint about the new system has been in regards to the way that it looks, and makes the site look. And how it could affect new users coming to the site for the first few times, in regards to first impressions.

 

As far as terms of costs, as far as the free members, and the supporting members, who are seeing this screen..... which again, I will repeat, VASTLY outnumber the amount of premium members, it's actually a huge INCREASE in bandwidth usage, to send out this new screen hundreds of thousands of times per month.

A usage, that they could minimize a bit, by at least, not making that screen so darned big.

 

[Edit] Now before anybody starts up on me, because I said that we and the supporting members outnumber you, stop and think. What I'm referring to, is site statistics. if there are as an example.... 10k premium accounts, and 50m free accounts.... those free accounts are making requests to the servers hundreds if not thousands of times more often than premium accounts are.

Edited December 19, 2019 by StormWolf01

[minervamaga]

 

 

I think it's a sign of greed personally.

The Nexus promotes its offerings to bring in revenue to keep the lights on and reward mod authors.

 

The users who have free accounts want everything for free without interruptions, distractions, or limitations forever - damn the costs!

 

Who's greedy again?

 

You liked my donut story but you clearly missed the point.

 

As one of the users of said free accounts, I'm asking to please not lump us all in together.

My only complaint about the new system has been in regards to the way that it looks, and makes the site look. And how it could affect new users coming to the site for the first few times, in regards to first impressions.

 

As far as terms of costs, as far as the free members, and the supporting members, who are seeing this screen..... which again, I will repeat, VASTLY outnumber the amount of premium members, it's actually a huge INCREASE in bandwidth usage, to send out this new screen hundreds of thousands of times per month.

A usage, that they could minimize a bit, by at least, not making that screen so darned big.

 

[Edit] Now before anybody starts up on me, because I said that we and the supporting members outnumber you, stop and think. What I'm referring to, is site statistics. if there are as an example.... 10k premium accounts, and 50m free accounts.... those free accounts are making requests to the servers hundreds if not thousands of times more often than premium accounts are.

 

An excellent point. Adding extra page loads only increases bandwidth use, which seems very counter-intuitive. If the site is struggling and needs money, adding forced extra page loads would be an extremely stupid move.

[StormWolf01]

Ok, so THIS, is completely irrelevant to the nexus itself, because it's not from the nexus itself.

But I post it's relevance, because I'm saying "Hey, it could be worse. They could be telling us THIS!"

This being what I just saw from wikipedia. While the majority of that screen is quite equitable, and not offense... they completely ruined it by making the reference to spending the money on your "Wednesday coffee".

 

So yeah. There's definitely worse out there, going on.

Edited December 19, 2019 by StormWolf01