jjb54 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 I really appreciate the power armor system. It feels really immersive. And it's great they brought the armor degradation-system back, which was missing since Oblivion. Oblivion? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormWolf01 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I really appreciate the power armor system. It feels really immersive. And it's great they brought the armor degradation-system back, which was missing since Oblivion. Oblivion? :wink: Uhhh... yeah, Oblivion. Ummm... that place where sequels go when they don't even halfway match up to their predecessors. Ummm.... metaphorically.:D ;D :whistle: Gaela posted it a while back and I hadn't had a chance to mention it. But he'd posted that most of the vanilla stuff is garbage. For the most part, I wholeheartedly agree with that.It brings me back to the question. Is this REALLY the best that Bethesda can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 I really appreciate the power armor system. It feels really immersive. And it's great they brought the armor degradation-system back, which was missing since Oblivion. Oblivion? :wink: Uhhh... yeah, Oblivion. Ummm... that place where sequels go when they don't even halfway match up to their predecessors. Ummm.... metaphorically. :D :laugh: :whistle: Gaela posted it a while back and I hadn't had a chance to mention it. But he'd posted that most of the vanilla stuff is garbage. For the most part, I wholeheartedly agree with that.It brings me back to the question. Is this REALLY the best that Bethesda can do? Sadly, FO 4 was the Fall of Bethesda. It was on so many different levels. If it was NOT for some of the mods ... I would have dumped FO 4 from my computer in 2018. I had a couple of friends that suggested some quest mods .... that are good, but sadly ... ( only as good as the Fallout engine can be. ) I just keep this short - Bethesda has lost their ability to weave and tell a story. Even a 1/2 way good one. Instead ... we went from RPG to FPS and even that ... well ... there are indeed better FPS out there. FO 76 is proof of the continued fall of Bethesda. I fear for any games they put out after the total failure of FO 76. END OF RANT. :down: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geala Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I really appreciate the power armor system. It feels really immersive. And it's great they brought the armor degradation-system back, which was missing since Oblivion. If they only had made degradation and/or destruction for all armors (plus weapons), at least as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb54 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 I really appreciate the power armor system. It feels really immersive. And it's great they brought the armor degradation-system back, which was missing since Oblivion. Again, as I pointed out in the OP - Case in point: In the base game, NO PA MODS - even a cue stick can damage PA. Seriously? Take a plate of steel and give it a smack down with a cue stick. The Plate of Steel will indeed win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I really appreciate the power armor system. It feels really immersive. And it's great they brought the armor degradation-system back, which was missing since Oblivion. Again, as I pointed out in the OP - Case in point: In the base game, NO PA MODS - even a cue stick can damage PA. Seriously? Take a plate of steel and give it a smack down with a cue stick. The Plate of Steel will indeed win! Yep, it most certainly will. The fact that in Power armor, you can be killed by a frigging rad roach, or mole rat, is just stupid. They shouldn't be able to damage your power armor either. Most small arms in the game should be ineffective. I could see them doing some small amount of damage to the ARMOR, but, NOT to the person inside it. (unless it was larger caliber, armor piercing ammo.) I like the damage system in New Vegas better. If weapon damage didn't exceed your Damage Resistance, you didn't take any damage..... That seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentic Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 A lot of good points, here, both pro and con. As for myself, well.... I'm a collector with packrat tendencies. I'll grab as many as I can even though I only use a few of 'em and I'll set them up at (usually) Starlight Drive in with a marquee sign, like 'Jalbert's Armor Sales', or 'Atom Cats', or 'Crazy Boris's Walking Junk-O-Rama'.I will, however, go for the mod items, like the construction armor, the X-02, the Midwestern, T-49 Storyteller's, even the I-01 Institute, just for the sake of the collection. I did mention the 'packrat' thing, right?The armor is too 'breakable', IMO- I mean, c'mon- this stuff is supposed to be front line gear? And any idiot with that aforementioned poolcue can damage it?? Yeah, not so much. Even if you work them all the way up to the Mk VI level, you're really gonna tell me that a Radscorp is going to pop a hole in it? Or that friggin' mosquito?Melee weps would be a vast improvement- as was mentioned, a PA scaled power fist would be lots of fun to use- but, the blacksmith perk can go a bit of the way to helping your desire to pound th' everlovin' dogsnot out of, say, a Behemoth.Fusion cores- ahh, yes, the Bane of the PA lover's world- but one mod in particular will give you the ability to recharge those rotten little batteries as needed and give you a TON more from captured suits- enough so that you can give every settlement a couple of gatling lasers for their occasional 'Raider Fry and Flambee' weekend.Sneaking? It's a whacking huge walking tank, almost a VOTOMS ( If anyone know about 'em); Sneaking ain't a real option. There are a few armor pieces that I've run across that'll help with the movement speed thing, and the Tesla set up is always good for giggles, but the thing is set up to" Kick it's way through Mirelurks" and generally punt one of those Fusion Fleas through some uprights- if any can be found, that is. And I'm really surprised that no one has ever come up with a 'football' mod for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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