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[AmaccurzerO]

I listened Joe biden say: I you dont vote for me, you aint black.

I am white and my wife is black. We both are very conservatives. If we would live in USA and we would not vote Biden, which would be her racial status according to Biden's words? Which would be her race?

Another question: What if we, she as a black woman and me as a white man, do not support BLM? We actually do not support BLM. So, would she be exposed to the denigration with which BLM and their followers treat those black people that does not support them calling them Uncle Tom, con and other denigrating names I will not mention here and I will be called a racist no matter if we both are civilized and we respect everyone?

One of the many things that defines Marxism is the intolerance. There is no need to dig deeper. If these people (I am referring BLM, their followers and also the SJW) breathe intolerance now they do not own the institutions, I cannot imagine what they would be capable of do when they got the power. They see racism and discrimination in every opinion, movie, TV serie or videogame. People is affraid to make polemic comments and express their opinions to not being branded as racist or something worse and lose their jobs after being crucified in the social networks. This somehow mines the freedom of expression and is as dangerous as this new movement called "the culture of cancellation". And we can go further.

I've seen the marxists take the power. They forced during my school days to learn marxism-leninism and if I would have protested or would have have a different opinion about it me and my family would have gone to jail. Why would you think these marxist would be different? Do you know what is to go to jail only for giving a different opinion? Only for giving a different opinion, whithout violence, with civism.

That ideology of the intolerance is gaining terrain in USA. If this ideology hasnt achieve nothing positive wherever it has been applied... why do you think ti will achieve positive things in USA? Going back to the originial post, I wanted to point at something. Bernell Tremmell, a black pro-Trump activist and street prophet was killed a few days ago in front of his store. I havent seen nothing in the medias about him. I havent seen BLM protesting about his life. Why? Maybe the answer is in the original post ,maybe because the medias and BLM dont care about black lives or maybe because the medias and BLM dont care about any live and they only care about their Marxist agenda and black lives are only useful if they feed their purposes. Maybe you are only meat for the medias and BLM or useful fools in their Marxist agenda. Maybe...

You are free to believe and think what you want without being denigrated, attacked or killed. So, repect the freedom of expression, the integrity and the lives of people who don not support BLM and choose to support Trump. And if you think that your ideas are better, there is no need to impose them by violence and intolerance. That is democracy.

If you continue mentioning the site owner to close this thread as he closed another thread, you are only achieving to close spaces to people express, even for you to express when the rest of people do not like your ideas. That is freedom of expression.

I repeat: there are problems and racist people in the USA? Yes there are. But the solutions wont com from intolerant people with a deep social resentment.

Edited July 28, 2020 by AmaccurzerO

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Again, I find it curious that we are ( on purpose?? ) ... IGNORING:

 

BLM - Has admitted to being a Marxist - Socialist Agenda Organization.

.. This is not disputed.

 

BLM - is a recognized TERRORIST organization.

.. This too is not even semi-sorta-kinda disputed, even by their founders / leaders.

 

Now we will add:

 

BLM is a RACIST organization that practices Racial Profiling.

.. See they say NOT ALL BLACK LIVES MATTER. Only certain ones. This is the basics of Racism.

.. But they also practice RACIAL PROFILING.

....> See only BLACKS killed in a certain way are "worthy" and "deserving" of their attention. The countless 100's of 1,000's that are not killed in the very laser focused - narrow view are NOT worthy and thus become 2nd rate / class people. RACIAL PROFILING -> You must be killed only in a very narrow and limited way. Period - Full Stop.

 

.. BLM - apparently does "NOT" condone "Murder" and yet .... their movement has indeed murdered human lives, human dreams, and injured ( sometimes beyond repair ) humans. And guess what, I'm talking what they have done to other BLACKS.

 

Now, the thing is I had a no small heated debate with a Black BLM supporter ... we will call him by his first name only: Gary. After I pointed out the above and Gary did his own homework .. he QUIT SUPPORTING BLM ... but he also now fears for his well being and rightly so.

another question for you, what do you get out of making up groundless, barefaced lies? feel free to ignore it as you've ignored all the other questions.

 

 

 

Please tell me which one of my points is and I quote... " .. groundless, barefaced lie? .. "

 

Please let me know and I will gladly supply ample evidence, even from BLM founders own lips ...

 

Literally every post in this thread of yours is a concoction of lies and fake news.

What do you get out of it? I'm genuinely curious.

[Shadowheart328]

I listened Joe biden say: I you dont vote for me, you aint black.

I am white and my wife is black. We both are very conservatives. If we would live in USA and we would not vote Biden, which would be her racial status according to Biden's words? Which would be her race?

 

Joe Biden doesn't speak for the black community so I'm unsure why you bring that up likes it's relevant here. And to answer your question, she'd still be black.

 

 

 

Another question: What if we, she as a black woman and me as a white man, do not support BLM? We actually do not support BLM. So, would she be exposed to the denigration with which BLM and their followers treat those black people that does not support them calling them Uncle Tom, con and other denigrating names I will not mention here and I will be called a racist no matter if we both are civilized and we respect everyone?

 

Yes. She'd be denigrated and insulted for not agreeing that Black Lives Matter in America's judicial system, especially since she's a black woman. I'm not going to assume who you two are or how you act outside the computer screen. But I will tell your situation looks like for black people and why they get so angry and upset seeing people of their own ethnicity not support the movement. Basically the main reason people who are black who marry a white person tend to get denigrated, is because they forget their roots. It's like the moment they marry into a white family, they forget about the fact that they came from black roots and then worst tend to step on other black people (metaphorically of course) because they think they are better than that now. As an analogy: Imagine you go to school with the same group of friends, and one of them is your best friend. You've been going to school together for 10 years, you live in the same neighborhood, you like the same things, and you are comfortable in each other's company. Now imagine you've had bullies as well who've been bullying you and your friends over that same 10 years, they call you names, they beat you up whenever they get the chance, school teachers ignore their bullying, and they live in the rich side of town. Now one year your best friend falls for one of the bullies and they develop a relationship together, already you feel betrayed by your friend. How could they fall for someone who's been bullying them all these years? However, you stay friends, but over time they start growing more distant, spending more time with that bully than you and your friends. However, the tipping point comes when the bullies still bully you at school, but your friend instead of stopping them or trying to at least talk with them, they laugh at you to. How would you feel? Because that's how black people feel when we see other black people who marry into white families, and then pretend like all the issues plaguing black people don't exist. Is that fair for you? No, of course not. But they are allowed to express their displeasure for that because of their 1st amendment rights. And at this point, with all the technology, data, and information at our fingertips, if you truly believe that BLM isn't worth supporting, then yeah. Black people are gonna throw a lot of crap your way.

One of the many things that defines Marxism is the intolerance. There is no need to dig deeper. If these people (I am referring BLM, their followers and also the SJW) breathe intolerance now they do not own the institutions, I cannot imagine what they would be capable of do when they got the power.

 

What? We are only intolerant of racial bias in the criminal justice system, and police in-accountability. What are you trying to say here? What intolerance? Or are you trying to imply that because BLM supporters don't agree with racist and bigoted view points that they are suddenly intolerant?

They see racism and discrimination in every opinion, movie, TV serie or videogame. People is affraid to make polemic comments and express their opinions to not being branded as racist or something worse and lose their jobs after being crucified in the social networks.

 

I see this argument all the time. Yes, there is a hell of a lot of racism and discrimination in media and video games. It's just really hard to see that discrimination and racism when you aren't the target of it. You know like how the hero is almost always white, darker skinned people are bad, minorities rarely have a leading role, and when they do it's met with "Oh, they're just pandering now...". Because apparently white people are so insecure about minorities having the leading role, that when they do, the only reason for that must be due to pandering to some sort of SJW agenda. So yeah. Of course we see blatant and subtle racism in media.

As for people being afraid. That is blown so out of proportion it's not funny. People aren't skimming the internet waiting for someone to mess up so they can jump on and ruin that person's career. Most of the time, if you actually look into it. It's something that happened over a period of time. It's rarely a one and done thing. A lot of those people get fired because you know, it's part of your job application to not say or do intolerant things online, it risks your job. And if you have to stop and wonder if your joke is racist or not, here's a hint: It probably is, and you shouldn't be saying it in public. When minorities are the butt of your joke, stop and think for a moment about why you are saying said joke and in what company you are in. Among friends an likeminded people sure, say all the racist jokes you want. But when you are online. Be smart, not everyone is going to find racial humor funny.

Do you know what is to go to jail only for giving a different opinion? Only for giving a different opinion, whithout violence, with civism.

 

Yes actually, it's called being a minority in America. Why do you think BLM is out protesting? It sucks you grew up in one of those places, but guess what here's some good news, you should be well aware that BLM isn't Marxist then. BLM is filled with people from all political spectrums because it's a fluid movement. It's a-political, because it's focusing on human rights and social issues. The only people going out of their way to make it political are Republicans and other Right-wing groups with a vetted interest in keeping the movement down. When neo-nazis, white supremacists, and other racist groups are agreeing with or parrot your points you need to take a step back and figure out what side you are on.

You keep bringing up this idea of intolerance but what is it? What is BLM actually intolerant of. Everyone keeps saying it, but nobody can give an actual example. Same with the Marxist argument. A few co-leaders of the movement said they are Marxist, but the movement itself hasn't done anything Marxist at all. In fact scholars and people who either are or study Marxism say the movement does many things that not label it Marxist. Such as showing support for women's and individual rights. You know, something that is one of the core foundations of Marxism. The removal of individual rights.

So until someone can give an example of BLM being Marxist or having intolerance outside of not tolerating racists and racist systems then stop citing them as such. If the organization is Marxist. Show Proof! If they are intolerant of valid ideas: Show Proof!

You are free to believe and think what you want without being denigrated, attacked or killed. So, repect the freedom of expression, the integrity and the lives of people who don not support BLM and choose to support Trump. And if you think that your ideas are better, there is no need to impose them by violence and intolerance. That is democracy.

If you continue mentioning the site owner to close this thread as he closed another thread, you are only achieving to close spaces to people express, even for you to express when the rest of people do not like your ideas. That is freedom of expression.

I repeat: there are problems and racist people in the USA? Yes there are. But the solutions wont com from intolerant people with a deep social resentment.

 

The only thing in your list that you are allowed the right of is not being attacked or killed. That's assault. However, you are perfectly within your rights to be denigrated because of an opinion. People speak the 1st amendment like they know what it is, but keep leaving out the part where it's explicitly geared towards the government, not the citizens. If you don't want to support a movement whose goal is to see racial bias end in the justice system, bringing about better changes for everyone, but are totally willing to support a president who is practicing Facism. Then don't worry the government won't arrest you, but other people have every right to call you out or insult you for it. That is freedom of speech. It's not one way, it's both ways. And it still isn't even universally applicable (go ahead and yell fire in a crowded room and watch your butt get arrested).

The reason I asked for closing the thread is because the two other people who are on this thread arguing in favor of the topic, don't want to debate. HeyYou expressly said he doesn't want to, and doesn't want to do any more research into it. He has his opinion, brought about by easily debunked sources, and doesn't want to research any further. JJb54 just keeps repeating the same debunked argument over and over again, and already insinuated from the post he doesn't want to debate because if you don't agree with him you're a liar. This thread is just going to become an endless circular argument, with people who don't want to research more into things because they don't want their opinions challenged. That's the polar opposite of a debate.

Maybe the answer is in the original post ,maybe because the medias and BLM dont care about black lives or maybe because the medias and BLM dont care about any live and they only care about their Marxist agenda and black lives are only useful if they feed their purposes. Maybe you are only meat for the medias and BLM or useful fools in their Marxist agenda. Maybe...

 

 

Now onto your only point that actually talked about the topic at hand.

Why do people conflate what the Media does with BLM. We don't control the media, like even you said, we don't have the power. So which is it? Do we have this unfettered control of how narratives are spread or don't we? Pick one. Again. I ask you to show where BLM doesn't care about black lives. Where?

The guy you linked to, wasn't killed because he was black (at least until further information is provided, they haven't found the killer). The point of BLM is to support black lives killed, for being black. Not for being black and democrat, or being black and republican. For being black. And even so, BLM supporters still made a vigil for the man and called him an elder in the community. That's a higher honor. And completely goes against what you were trying to imply. Only conservatives and known liars like Lauram Ingramm, are going out of their way to make this man's death political without even getting all the information. And still, BLM supports him. But not every death is going to be covered equally, because there are so many of them, and not all of them are racially carried out by Law Enforcement or racists. The whole point of BLM's founding. Which is something that is always conveniently ignored.

[Shadowheart328]

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[AmaccurzerO]

 

I listened Joe biden say: I you dont vote for me, you aint black.

I am white and my wife is black. We both are very conservatives. If we would live in USA and we would not vote Biden, which would be her racial status according to Biden's words? Which would be her race?

 

Joe Biden doesn't speak for the black community so I'm unsure why you bring that up likes it's relevant here. And to answer your question, she'd still be black.

 

 

 

Another question: What if we, she as a black woman and me as a white man, do not support BLM? We actually do not support BLM. So, would she be exposed to the denigration with which BLM and their followers treat those black people that does not support them calling them Uncle Tom, con and other denigrating names I will not mention here and I will be called a racist no matter if we both are civilized and we respect everyone?

 

Yes. She'd be denigrated and insulted for not agreeing that Black Lives Matter in America's judicial system, especially since she's a black woman. I'm not going to assume who you two are or how you act outside the computer screen. But I will tell your situation looks like for black people and why they get so angry and upset seeing people of their own ethnicity not support the movement. Basically the main reason people who are black who marry a white person tend to get denigrated, is because they forget their roots. It's like the moment they marry into a white family, they forget about the fact that they came from black roots and then worst tend to step on other black people (metaphorically of course) because they think they are better than that now. As an analogy: Imagine you go to school with the same group of friends, and one of them is your best friend. You've been going to school together for 10 years, you live in the same neighborhood, you like the same things, and you are comfortable in each other's company. Now imagine you've had bullies as well who've been bullying you and your friends over that same 10 years, they call you names, they beat you up whenever they get the chance, school teachers ignore their bullying, and they live in the rich side of town. Now one year your best friend falls for one of the bullies and they develop a relationship together, already you feel betrayed by your friend. How could they fall for someone who's been bullying them all these years? However, you stay friends, but over time they start growing more distant, spending more time with that bully than you and your friends. However, the tipping point comes when the bullies still bully you at school, but your friend instead of stopping them or trying to at least talk with them, they laugh at you to. How would you feel? Because that's how black people feel when we see other black people who marry into white families, and then pretend like all the issues plaguing black people don't exist. Is that fair for you? No, of course not. But they are allowed to express their displeasure for that because of their 1st amendment rights. And at this point, with all the technology, data, and information at our fingertips, if you truly believe that BLM isn't worth supporting, then yeah. Black people are gonna throw a lot of crap your way.

 

One of the many things that defines Marxism is the intolerance. There is no need to dig deeper. If these people (I am referring BLM, their followers and also the SJW) breathe intolerance now they do not own the institutions, I cannot imagine what they would be capable of do when they got the power.

 

What? We are only intolerant of racial bias in the criminal justice system, and police in-accountability. What are you trying to say here? What intolerance? Or are you trying to imply that because BLM supporters don't agree with racist and bigoted view points that they are suddenly intolerant?

 

They see racism and discrimination in every opinion, movie, TV serie or videogame. People is affraid to make polemic comments and express their opinions to not being branded as racist or something worse and lose their jobs after being crucified in the social networks.

 

I see this argument all the time. Yes, there is a hell of a lot of racism and discrimination in media and video games. It's just really hard to see that discrimination and racism when you aren't the target of it. You know like how the hero is almost always white, darker skinned people are bad, minorities rarely have a leading role, and when they do it's met with "Oh, they're just pandering now...". Because apparently white people are so insecure about minorities having the leading role, that when they do, the only reason for that must be due to pandering to some sort of SJW agenda. So yeah. Of course we see blatant and subtle racism in media.

 

As for people being afraid. That is blown so out of proportion it's not funny. People aren't skimming the internet waiting for someone to mess up so they can jump on and ruin that person's career. Most of the time, if you actually look into it. It's something that happened over a period of time. It's rarely a one and done thing. A lot of those people get fired because you know, it's part of your job application to not say or do intolerant things online, it risks your job. And if you have to stop and wonder if your joke is racist or not, here's a hint: It probably is, and you shouldn't be saying it in public. When minorities are the butt of your joke, stop and think for a moment about why you are saying said joke and in what company you are in. Among friends an likeminded people sure, say all the racist jokes you want. But when you are online. Be smart, not everyone is going to find racial humor funny.

 

Do you know what is to go to jail only for giving a different opinion? Only for giving a different opinion, whithout violence, with civism.

 

Yes actually, it's called being a minority in America. Why do you think BLM is out protesting? It sucks you grew up in one of those places, but guess what here's some good news, you should be well aware that BLM isn't Marxist then. BLM is filled with people from all political spectrums because it's a fluid movement. It's a-political, because it's focusing on human rights and social issues. The only people going out of their way to make it political are Republicans and other Right-wing groups with a vetted interest in keeping the movement down. When neo-nazis, white supremacists, and other racist groups are agreeing with or parrot your points you need to take a step back and figure out what side you are on.

 

You keep bringing up this idea of intolerance but what is it? What is BLM actually intolerant of. Everyone keeps saying it, but nobody can give an actual example. Same with the Marxist argument. A few co-leaders of the movement said they are Marxist, but the movement itself hasn't done anything Marxist at all. In fact scholars and people who either are or study Marxism say the movement does many things that not label it Marxist. Such as showing support for women's and individual rights. You know, something that is one of the core foundations of Marxism. The removal of individual rights.

 

So until someone can give an example of BLM being Marxist or having intolerance outside of not tolerating racists and racist systems then stop citing them as such. If the organization is Marxist. Show Proof! If they are intolerant of valid ideas: Show Proof!

 

You are free to believe and think what you want without being denigrated, attacked or killed. So, repect the freedom of expression, the integrity and the lives of people who don not support BLM and choose to support Trump. And if you think that your ideas are better, there is no need to impose them by violence and intolerance. That is democracy.

If you continue mentioning the site owner to close this thread as he closed another thread, you are only achieving to close spaces to people express, even for you to express when the rest of people do not like your ideas. That is freedom of expression.

I repeat: there are problems and racist people in the USA? Yes there are. But the solutions wont com from intolerant people with a deep social resentment.

 

The only thing in your list that you are allowed the right of is not being attacked or killed. That's assault. However, you are perfectly within your rights to be denigrated because of an opinion. People speak the 1st amendment like they know what it is, but keep leaving out the part where it's explicitly geared towards the government, not the citizens. If you don't want to support a movement whose goal is to see racial bias end in the justice system, bringing about better changes for everyone, but are totally willing to support a president who is practicing Facism. Then don't worry the government won't arrest you, but other people have every right to call you out or insult you for it. That is freedom of speech. It's not one way, it's both ways. And it still isn't even universally applicable (go ahead and yell fire in a crowded room and watch your butt get arrested).

 

The reason I asked for closing the thread is because the two other people who are on this thread arguing in favor of the topic, don't want to debate. HeyYou expressly said he doesn't want to, and doesn't want to do any more research into it. He has his opinion, brought about by easily debunked sources, and doesn't want to research any further. JJb54 just keeps repeating the same debunked argument over and over again, and already insinuated from the post he doesn't want to debate because if you don't agree with him you're a liar. This thread is just going to become an endless circular argument, with people who don't want to research more into things because they don't want their opinions challenged. That's the polar opposite of a debate.

 

Maybe the answer is in the original post ,maybe because the medias and BLM dont care about black lives or maybe because the medias and BLM dont care about any live and they only care about their Marxist agenda and black lives are only useful if they feed their purposes. Maybe you are only meat for the medias and BLM or useful fools in their Marxist agenda. Maybe...

 

 

Now onto your only point that actually talked about the topic at hand.

 

Why do people conflate what the Media does with BLM. We don't control the media, like even you said, we don't have the power. So which is it? Do we have this unfettered control of how narratives are spread or don't we? Pick one. Again. I ask you to show where BLM doesn't care about black lives. Where?

 

The guy you linked to, wasn't killed because he was black (at least until further information is provided, they haven't found the killer). The point of BLM is to support black lives killed, for being black. Not for being black and democrat, or being black and republican. For being black. And even so, BLM supporters still made a vigil for the man and called him an elder in the community. That's a higher honor. And completely goes against what you were trying to imply. Only conservatives and known liars like Lauram Ingramm, are going out of their way to make this man's death political without even getting all the information. And still, BLM supports him. But not every death is going to be covered equally, because there are so many of them, and not all of them are racially carried out by Law Enforcement or racists. The whole point of BLM's founding. Which is something that is always conveniently ignored.

 

So, if she as a black woman does not support BLM, she has the right to be denigrated and stand all the kind of garbage that BLM followers want to throw at her. Wow! The only thing that proves your words is that only BLM only cares about the black people who support them. So, the rest can be denigrated? And this way they want unify black people? Wow! You wont change no one's mind with insults and denigration. But if you think so, go on. You will only collect what you sow.

 

Along History, insults has not proven anything but the lack of arguments and reasons. But you just call it freedom of expression. Insulting is not freedom of expression and will only add bad reputation to any social movement you support.

 

One of the man who I most admire and who fought, not only for black people rights, but for many other minorities rights, was Martin Luther King. And I really doubt that he insulted anyone or promoted such behavior.

 

Start by educating the masses of intolerants BLM followers to prove the other half why you are better. That's the right way.

Edited July 28, 2020 by AmaccurzerO

[Shadowheart328]

So, if she as a black woman does not support BLM, she has the right to be denigrated and stand all the kind of garbage that BLM followers want to throw at her. Wow! The only thing that proves your words is that only BLM only cares about the black people who support them. So, the rest can be denigrated? And this way they want unify black people? Wow! You wont change no one's mind with insults and denigration. But if you think so, go on. You will only collect what you sow.

Along History, insults has not proven anything but the lack of arguments and reasons. But you just call it freedom of expression. Insulting is not freedom of expression and will only add bad reputation to any social movement you support.

 

One of the man who I most admire and who fought, not only for black people rights, but for many other minorities rights, was Martin Luther King. And I really doubt that he insulted anyone or promoted such behavior.

 

Start by educating the masses of intolerants BLM followers to prove the other half why you are better. That's the right way.

 

If that's all you got out of what I wrote then you didn't read everything I had to say, and just focused on the first argument.

 

I answered your question: Would she be insulted by BLM supporters? The answer is yes, if you don't want to support a movement that is trying to end systematic racism in America especially against those of your ethnicity, while at the same time supporting a president who is a known bigot, racist, and misogynist. Then yeah. You are gonna get insulted by them. That's human nature. I swear people act like BLM has to be better than human in order to be taken seriously. EVERY SINGLE PROTEST REGARDLESS OF WHO IS DOING IT WILL INSULT/BELITTLE PEOPLE WHO DON'T SUPPORT THEM. BLM is no different, because it's comprised of humans.

 

At the same time, your argument still doesn't hold water because you make the assumption that just because they insult and belittle you, they won't support you being racially profiled or discriminated against. ONCE MORE: BLM IS POLITICALLY AGNOSTIC. There are people who are both democratic, republican, and many other politically leaning people that are in the movement. Because the movement isn't political. It looks political because the only group of people who are arguing against the movement are primarily right-wing and far-right-wing supporters.

 

Insulting is not freedom of expression and will only add bad reputation to any social movement you support.

 

Except it is, is it effective? No. Is it a freedom of expression? Yes. You are focusing so hard on this insult argument that you have ignored pretty much every other point that was addressed in what you wrote.

 

One of the man who I most admire and who fought, not only for black people rights, but for many other minorities rights, was Martin Luther King. And I really doubt that he insulted anyone or promoted such behavior.

 

MLK was a great man, but he accomplished next to nothing until after he was killed, and was only recognized as a peaceful protester 60 years later. You do realize all the same insults that are being hurled at BLM, all of the deflectionary tactics, all the dehumanizing, and victim blaming, all of that happened to the peaceful protesters too. You realize that the main reason MLK is so loved by American's is because he is so easy to point at and go 'see that's how you protest, if you do it peacefully people will listen'. Because it made them out to look like the good guys, like so long as you peacefully protest people will listen to what you have to say, we can't be that racist. However, you were fed a whitewashed version of history. While MLK was definitely the most peaceful protester in American History, he wasn't that effective at getting policies implemented until after he died. Now you would think that it is because a good peaceful man died. But that is far from the case. I bet you weren't taught about The Long, Hot Summer of 1967 or the King Assassination Riots both of which are confirmed as the reason the Civil Rights Act of 1968 was passed. MLK dying wasn't even enough. It was the riots that happened a year before and riots that occurred after he died not the peaceful protesting. Now I will give you that his peacefulness is what made black people turn to violence so quickly after he died, but basically MLKs biggest contribution to the Civil Rights Movement, was becoming a martyr.

 

 

Start by educating the masses of intolerants BLM followers to prove the other half why you are better. That's the right way.

They aren't intolerant, they are supporting black lives, because right now black lives are the ones that matter least in this country's criminal justice system. Seriously you never answered my question, which is why I don't even believe you read what I wrote. Prove they are intolerant. The only things they are standing against are racist ideals/ideology/systems/people. If you think they need to be tolerant of racism, then I don't know what to tell you. As for protesting, in a perfect world, yeah it should be peaceful, and I personally don't agree with the rioting/looting that's going on. But that's what happens when you subjugate a people for 400+ years, and prove time and time and again that you don't care for their lives. Eventually they break. (I don't mean you as in you personally it's a general term). Black people have been peacefully protesting for decades now, Micheal Brown, Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Philandro Castille, etc, etc, etc. We've been down this road so many times, we know how America works, people only care about issues when it starts to affect them.

 

If black people (and other minorities) being mistreated due to their ethnicity isn't enough to convince you that BLM is a valid movement (and nobody so far has given examples of what they are doing that makes them not a valid movement) then they are going to turn to the only thing left. Violence. That's just how it works, ask the founding father's of America. Violent protesting is how America was founded. They tarred and feathered, burnt down buildings and tea, rioted in the streets, and started a damn war because the peaceful way didn't work.

 

Now look, if you actually want to debate. Address my points. I respected you enough to address all of yours.

 

EDIT: SOURCES

 

Long Hot Summer

 

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long,_hot_summer_of_1967

2. https://theweek.com/captured/712838/long-hot-summer-1967

3. https://time.com/5851111/protests-looting/ - also how America was founded on the idea of looting and violent protest

 

King Assassination Riots

 

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_assassination_riots

2. https://www.history.com/news/mlk-assassination-riots-occupation

 

Civil Rights Act Passing

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968#Background

2. https://www.propublica.org/article/living-apart-how-the-government-betrayed-a-landmark-civil-rights-law

[jjb54]

I'm not ignoring this ... I do plan to address the post.

 

BUT ... right now going through chemo ... and am a bit 'out of it' ...

 

I'll hopefully be back at it by Friday. :)

[Arneercool]

I miss the good ol days where this bulls*** was confined on reddit and facebook. These days the demagogues will set up shop anywhere that allows it. Though i don't quite understand why nexus mods would allow it under their umbrella, but then again, being seated in Borisstan must do something to your brain.

 

Hate and rabble-rousing is not free speech.

Edited July 31, 2020 by Arneercool

[MrJoseCuervo]

[Arneercool]

Hey, it's me, your daily dose of love.

 

In all seriousness, i would heal you if i could. Nobody should carry around this much pain alone.

Edited August 1, 2020 by Arneercool