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What doesn't Vortex do that NMM does? I can't manually adjust my load order. That, and I have stable installs of several games using NMM, and I am unwilling to go thru the installation process again, with a new mod manager. :smile: I am able to manually sort, though it is not as easy with Vortex as it is with MO2 in that in Vortex, you have to create a rule whereas in MO2 you just move the mod to a new slot. I do not use the default groups but have created my own based on someones recommendations online. Since I have done that, my CTDs have gone down even though before I did not show any conflicts. It appears the game likes certain things loaded in a certain order, though this is just a wild guess.

In Hmm. It seems very consistent in certain areas. Can't imagine a mod conflict impacting an idle. It is interesting that the idle was included in the base game.

I can install it as my chip is newer, BUT, like the rest of you, I have my doubts. Microsoft went from no more new Windows to OK, here is one more. The declaration that it improves gaming is interesting, but then again they made the same claim with their Game Bar which actually impacts my performance with FO4. I never like to be as early tester of OS as they prove to be more of a thorn in my side than a nice spring rain. BTW, what is better then roses on your piano? What is the difference between a vitamin and a hormone? Just had to do it. Had no crashes yesterday so I am in a good mood.

Microsoft asserts that Windows 11 will increase gaming performance. I am not sure of this claim as it may be limited to newer titles. Has anyone here that may see this installed Windows 11 and played FO4? If so, can you share your thoughts about the claims made by Microsoft.

To the OP, if you have not used a manager, many people swear by Mod Organizer 2 ("MO2"). I have not used it myself as I started with Vortex years ago. Vortex keeps updating and has more and more features similar to MO2. Check out the tutorials for MO2

What doesn't Vortex do that NMM does?

Thanks, I did.

I enjoy settlement building and want to start sharing my builds. One of my must have mods is JP's Guard Posts and Towers. A seemingly simple mod, but very useful, especially if you like building walls around your settlements. Unfortunately, the MA removed his/her mod from the Nexus and no reason is given. I do not even know the mod author's tag other than JP. I have checked on Discord and other areas that have information about removed mods and if they have been re-hosted somewhere else, no luck. I was hoping to contact the MA to see if he would re-hist the mod elsewhere or allow me to share the mod with other (yes, I know, that is a stretch). Does anyone know the MA or know where/if his mod has been relocated? If anything, I would love to thank him for a great mod.

Are you playing on a laptop of desktop? If a laptop, it could be thermal throttling (maybe even with a desktop). It does not appear that you have any scrap mods have you used console commands to delete items. I could not see anything in your mod list to suggest a direct conflict, but you should use xEdit to look for conflicts. What mod manager do you use? This is the framework I use now with respect to load orders: Master Files Right after Master files Unofficial Patch and Armor keywords Fast Starts and Frameworks Faction and AI Overhauls New Landmasses New Factions Vanilla Quests Modifications Settlement and Workshop Menu Items (Vanilla Menus) Settlement and Workshop Menu Items (Scripted) SMM and and mods that require SMM Settlement and Workshop Menu Overhauls (like Workshop rearranged) Game-Play Changes and Tweaks New Companions NPC and Companion Changes Radio and Audio Mods Visual, Texture, Atmospheric Improvements Lighting and Water Changes Vanilla Settlement Changes and Tweaks Sorting Mods HUD and DEF_UI Mods Pip bob Map Mods Character Model Replacers, Enhances New Weapons, Armor, Clothing (non-craftable) Craft Your Own New Settlements, World Edits Player homes New Settlements Single cell edits Interiors that do not disable precombines. New Quests Weapon and Armor Modifications New barrels New weapon and footstep sounds Any patches to the above weapons and armors; Scrapping, World Edits, Landscape and Terrain Frameworks and other bottom mods I would change out Boston FPS as that is quite old. A new mod, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46403?tab=files should help somewhat. I determined that my constant stuttering was caused primarily by Thermal Throttling. I was able to drop the temp of my CPU significantly using Throttle Stop, but my GPU card has not been cooperative. As the weather has now cooled, no stuttering. I hope this helps a bit. There are a myriad of things that could be causing what you have described.

I am glad that you were able to solve the mystery crashes, lets hope it stays that way. I am curious however as to why you added the string "STRINGS\, TEXTURES\, MUSIC\, SOUND\, INTERFACE\, MESHES\, PROGRAMS\, MATERIALS\, LODSETTINGS\, VIS\, MISC\, SCRIPTS\, SHADERSFX\" to "sResourceDataDirsFinal=" as it has always been my understanding that there should be nothing after sResourceDataDirsFinal=. I thought that by adding things after that that you would be placing limitations on the program. Of course, I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination as programming is not within my wheelhouse. Thanks for the video. You did fine considering you had never done one before. I do have a question and a suggestion. As for the suggestion, instead of clicking each and every node to adjust them into a straight line what I have done in the past is pick the one node and move it up to the desired/necessary Mhz, clicked out of graph, click apply and them bring up the graph again and all the nodes after the adjusted node line up perfectly (caveat: this works when all the subsequent nodes are lower than the first node). Two more short-cuts, once you have selected a node, press control and arrow down and the node will do down by 10, press tab and the cursor will jump to the next node. As for my question, I was under the impression that you run the stress test on the card and note the highest Mhz reading and begin your adjustments as to voltage from that point. I will try your method and see what that does. My video card is rated at 960 - 1200 (Boost) MHz but under stress, it goes much higher. I will experiment shortly and will share the results. Although you do not appear to be into settlement building, given your load order you should check out the mod on the site whose name must not be uttered (LL) for a mod simply called Stripper pole. It works great. All you do is assign a settler and they can be there 24 7, plus, they can sell you food and drinks! I have two settlement build examples of my bars as pics under my name. Take care.

Check out the following with respect to creating a load order in Vortex https://oddlittleturtle.wordpress.com/load-order/lo-survival-guide/ Also check this out: https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Managing_your_Load_Order It is a tedious process creating all the new categories and assigning them to each mod (as well as any new mod you add) but this process really helps establish a decent load order. After doing this (took about 3 hours as I have a lot of mods) the game ran smoothly and actually some previous categories that were missing from my build menus were there again! Spend the time and you will reap the rewards. As for FPS, if you are deleting items via console or a scrapping mod, you will have problems with performance. If you are overbuilding in your settlements, you will have problems unless you have God's supercomputer (which you do not.) Check out High FPS Fix https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798/?tab=posts&jump_to_comment=100651208 That may help. Good luck.

Wilhelmina for a girl Wilfred for a boy. Why? Alliteration and I cannot recall any companions having those names.

The RTX is a good card, but the laptop manufacturer has locked the unit, so there is very little I can do with respect to the GPU and CPU (cannot overclock the CPU.) Thanks for the video suggestion. I have looked at a myriad of videos and I understand the concept. The issue I am having is that the GU voltage maxes out at .906 volts and MSI Afterburner will allow an undervolt of no less than .700. That is not a big window to mess with. I have gone as low as .725 V as an undervolt and the result is pretty much a straight line and when I test it by using a benchmark program, the program crashes. At .725, at least there is somewhat of a curve but the temperature goes done less than 1/2 degree, which does not help enough as the video card appears to be set to thermal throttle at exactly 80 degrees. The best results from the standpoint of a benchmark I have gotten are the stock settings, which are OK for the majority of games out there, but not for a modded fallout, thus the slight overclock to the GPU. Still, using the stock settings the GPU will reach 80 degrees (sometimes 83 and one of the cores or whatever a hot spot is, as high as 100 degrees) causing thermal throttle. I think that I may have to play in a walk-in cooler!! Still, my CTDs have been less lately since the temps have dropped here a bit at night. My recent CTDs occurred because I redid my load order (I use Vortex) which took me about 3 hours or so to complete by creating categories based on something I read online. Once my load order settled into my save game, the CTDs have been less. I forgot to mention one thing for you (just came to me as I was building in Far Harbor.) Weather, fog, storms and shadows will f up your FPS and can cause crashes. Reducing video settings to perhaps high or medium (it is not that noticeable a change) will help, as well as ini edits regarding shadows and fog. Never use Ultra because the difference between Ultra and high is minuscule but the ultra settings place unnecessary stress on your graphics card, and thus in your game. Sure, post a video. Maybe I will get some good ideas. I was messing with undervolting the video card today for around 4 hours with no luck. Take care.

While it would look cool and realistic, the game engine and performance may suffer from having all those corpses hanging around until they decay. Just a few corpses would be OK, but more often than not there are dozens (at least in my game).

Wow, you really seem to know your stuff. I have not tried the high fps fix. I just searched it and found high fps physics fix. I will be applying it and trying again. I am using buffout 4 and priority optimizer. I also went through smoothout, which is a really comprehensive guide and the reason I am now getting about 60fps. As for thermal throttling, it was an issue i actually ran into before the summer (mainly because my cpu was getting absurdly hot), since i too am on a laptop. I actually cleaned it out and put some fresh thermal paste to my cpu and gpu (there was barely any when i first found it, and it wasn't well distributed. I don't think acer did a great job at pasting when they built this machine). I am fortunate enough to be able to undervolt and it works out great for me. My gpu actually maintains around 68-75c normally, its a bit high, but when using the turbo boost feature, i guess that is normal being that this is a laptop and all. It's my CPU that's the problem. It used to heat up to around 99c and then would start to throttle. This was pretty much eliminated after i did the maintenance that i mentioned + the undervolting (I appologize if i previously mentioned that I undervolted my gpu, it was my cpu). AC valhalla was actually the game that made me notice this was happening as even cp2077 ran better. It would start off running really smooth and then after about 20 minutes of play, it would start stuttering and getting really bogged down. This time, it seems, throttling is not the cause, I was using a temp overlay and it maintained around 75c when playing yesterday. I got crashes every 5 -10 minutes. The d3d11.dll is from using Grim ENB performance edition. I almost can't play without it. Its a huge part of what makes this experience what it is. I absolutely love Grim ENB. When it works, my game is terrifying, part of it is because of Grim and whispering hills, but the other big factor is the ENB that I do not want to do without. Many other mods are mostly weapon and outfit mods, I wouldn't think they would not impose a heavy load on my system? But maybe I am wrong, who knows? In either case I am going to temporarily disable the ENB to eliminate that d3d issue you mentioned to see if that helps. I should be able to do without heroine replacer since they are not my favorite replacers anyway and I was thinking about using other ones. Also, I don't use any scrapping mods. In my search to rectify this issue, I have noticed many people complaining about them giving similar symptoms to my own. I dont really build settlements, you kind of cant when a hord of some weird silent hill creatures are coming out of nowhere attacking you, or if siren head, or some wendigo is nearby, or if you are getting dragged into the "otherworld" constantly and everything around you goes pitch black, you forgot to craft nvg's and your flashlight barely does anything. I rely more on underground bunkers to either wait out the night or otherworld pulls rather than building settlements. also since i use the gas masks mod, there are frequent rad storms that require donning of gas masks so you don't die from radiation. While my game may be script heavy, you should see my skyrim setup! My skyrim runs like trash, I get low fps (25-30) but no crashes while running about 550+ mods (that i know of). I'd take 30 frames over 60 any day if it meant the game wouldnt crash every 5-10 min. *Edit: I was experimenting with your suggestions, after disabling and re-enabling the mods you suggested, I found that A forest and another forest were huge culprits in crashing my game. I just played for about 25 minutes crash free and then recieved a crash. Using the fps fix you recommended I maintained almost a locked 60 fps. My crashes are not tied to my fps i believe. Do you have any more suggestions in my load order that might improve my playtime without crashing? Disabling the forest mod really gave me progress, any more suggestions are greatly welcome. Though I have to say, the forest mod was amazing and its kind of sad without it, but if it means less crashing, ill take it. I really do not recognize some of the mods you are playing with. I really wanted to play the Grim mod as well as a horror play-through but I know that my GPU cannot handle the graphics (I really should have done some research on my MSI thin laptop, as there are so many complaints abut the heat issues, next time, a thicker laptop with better thermals.) As for the mods I do recognize, and mods I have used in the past, I would look at the following Jasmine (nice eye candy, but was buggy for me). As for your CPU, what are program are you using to undervolt? I use Throttlestop. In Throttlestop, under the FIVR tab where you do the undervolting, I played around with it by adjusting the Turbo limits. While this may seem counter productive in terms of performance, with the undervolt my CPU runs around 4200Mhz even with reducing the Turbo Boost (my base processor Mhz is 2600). You may want to look at that. I am surprised that the undervolt of the CPU did not drop the temps. As I stated before, my temps immediately drop almost 20 degrees when I enable Throttlestop. As for the GPU, I have not been able to find a sweet spot for an undervolt, so I just mess around with the overclocking (even when there is no overclocking of the CPU, it still Thermal throttles.) You could also look at Previs Repair Pack (PPP) https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46403?tab=files vs Boston FPS Fix and Beantown Interior Project as the PPP is more recent and covers all of the Commonwealth (I believe also interiors). I will be using that mod in my next play through. Note: If you use PPP, make sure any mods you have do not break Previs data. If you still want those mods, place them under PPP. Short of placing an AC duct right behind your laptop ( I have my laptop on top of Cooler Master laptop cooler, a fan behind the laptop and an evap cooler hitting the back of the laptop -still some thermal issues - I play outside as I like to smoke a cigar while killing ghouls) the bottom-line in my opinion is that given the limitations of a laptop when it comes to thermals, you may want to consider removing some mods. Think about it, you are not having fun with all these issues, what is the point? Fallout 4 has horrible optimizations, there is only so much y9u can do with the mods you have. Keep the horror theme, but slowly remove some of the visuals to get to a stable game. this will take time, but it may work for you. I wanted to play with Grim as well as Whispering Hills, but I am well aware of what my rig is capable of and running both would impact my performance. Take it easy

Have you tried the Mod High FPS Fix? I play on a laptop and as a result, my rig (specifically, my GPU) thermal throttles. I tried everything (could not undervolt my GPU, thanks MSI) but with Throttle Stop my CPU runs almost 20 degrees cooler. The GPU however hovers around 80 degrees. When it hits 80, stuttering galore if not a CTD. In taking a quick look at your load order it does appear that you are pushing your system, especially with the mod A Forest as well as any other texture mods on top of that. A Forest is a succubus when it comes to FPS. Looking at your crash log, the usual culprit shows up d3d11.dll. Almost 90% of all my crashes come from this under probable call stack. It is infuriating in that I regularly update the graphics for my card (RTX 2060 32GB of Ram two SSD for a total of 3 TB) and when bring up the topic of d3d11.dll the pat answer is downgrade to an older version. That cannot be the only answer. Another mod I notice you have was the Heroine Replacer. I just had some bad luck with that mod and could not find the conflict. I eliminated it and the game played better. I would suggest that you run some sort of a performance monitor to see if your GPU is thermal throttling as I suspect that is the culprit. It also appears that you are very script heavy, which in and of itself may be a contributing factor. Finally, not sure if you use scrapping mods or console commands tom scrap, but if you do, that could be a big reason why you are having performance issues. I have always used scrapping mods or console commands and have learned the hard way that a clean Commonwealth is not worth all the performance issues I have had. Once I finish my current play through, I will no longer be using any scrapping mods, or blueprints. While I am all into building settlements (I just finished an approximate 6,000 asset blueprint of Dalton Farm) and did scrap there, my FPS drops by nearly 30 and I get stuttering. Now, I'll just play the game without scrapping and if I want to have a big settlement build, I will simply change profiles, otherwise, I will embrace the filth that is the Commonwealth. Just know that I am by no means an expert. I have learned about a lot of these issues because I have gone through what you are. I have tried to eliminate loose files by packing them, II have removed some GPU intense graphics and use High FPS Fix, Buffout and Priority Optimizer (can;t remember the name right now) and they have helped, but not to the extent I have hoped. Since it is cooling down here, not as many CTDs due to thermal throttling (still have CTDs but nothing like you have described). You may need to make a hard choice and start eliminating some mods, including A Forest (there is a fall version that was released that asserts it is GPU friendly but I will stick with Another Pine Forest and Vivid FO all in one as they seem to be less GPU intense. Good luck man. I feel your pain.

I really enjoy the BR77. Damage increases the longer you use the weapon based on the number of kills. It is, OP when you have reached the max, but it sure does a lot of damage when I am surrounded by 50 or so ghouls. I also like Modern Firearms, but there are maybe 5 or 6 of the weapons I like and they offer so many (too many) choices.

Try this.. Better Console. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26582

I may have fixed it. I had forgotten that I updated the High FPS Fix mod, so when I reverted to the previous version, I was able to load a save. Unfortunately, I am still have some CTD issues so it is more of a bandage than a complete fix. Was trying to blueprint my Dalton Farm build and the process would CTD. I may have to switch to daytime and no weather other than clear skies. Of course, it could also just be the settlement itself as it is quite large with a lot of changes. Switching High FPS to an older version did not help either, it was a temporary fix. My ENB manager kept installing the d3d11.dll files every time I deleted them as it was still active, even though I had turned it off. I turned off the preset and that eliminated the d3d file. Still having some crashing issues in Far Harbor but I think it is a different problem because I was creating a blueprint with over 3,500 items and have mods that increase the numbers of and spawns of enimies. I started the blueprint and just left Far Harbor and went to the commonwealth. Eventually I received a notice that the blueprint was complete (I always thought I needed to stay there.) Will be starting a new play through soon once I have created blueprints for some other settlements to test.

I have had this issue and in my opinion, it is associated with scrapping in settlements and broken precombines. At this point in your game,not sure you can "save" your save. I started over. Here is what mine looked like. https://imgur.com/gallery/rKm1o0k

When you say replacing it, do you mean downloading another one? I do not usually use my mod manager to install ENBs, maybe I should. I use Toll's ENB manager to switch between ENBs for testing purposes. I just makes no sense. Literally in the span of 5 minutes, the game stopped working after I switched ENB presets. I then went back to the ENB manager, switched back to the ENB I was using, still CTD. disabled all ENB usage, CTD. I'm stuck. Will now try a new character in my mod manager with no mods loaded to see if the game starts. EDIT: As an aside, why would my d3d11.dll file be called when it is not in the game directory as I disabled ENB completely?? I just disabled and made sure that the d3d11.dll was not in my directory yet the file caused an error. I wanted to go to a prior save but the program froze then CTD.

As stated in the title the game refuses to proceed after disabling an ENB preset. The loading screen appears and then freezes, then CTD. I use Toll's ENB manager (a great mod BTW) and re-enabled the ENB preset thinking it would fix the issue, still not working. Other than enabling the ENB, no other changes were made to the game. This play-through has been unremarkable, very few CTD issues, and nothing like this. I have attached a Buffout crash log which shows that d3d11.dll may be the cause. Been trying to work this out for several hours to no avail. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Have you tried High FPS Fix? It does have options regarding loading screens and increasing loading times. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798/?tab=posts

You should check out this mod. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/53550/?tab=posts Amazing mod. No lobsters. But a whole lot of other stuff, including a ghoul whale!

Bad or failing vid card could be it, also previs issues.