FritzTCoyote Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (attempting to keep my language family friendly) Install a bunch of mods with vortex. Get the game (FO4) running nice and stable.Exit the game. Exit Vortex. Go do my chores, feed the cat, etc. Come back a few hours later, launch Vortex. From Vortex start up the game (using f4se).Game will either CTD on the main screen OR... I'll attempt to load last save and get informed that Mods are Missing. How in the name of Atom did THAT happen?I made NO CHANGES in Vortex. So why did mods drop out of the load order?I made NO CHANGES in Vortex, So why a CTD on Main Screen?Each time the cure is 'Purge Mods, Redeploy Mods'. WHY? WHY is VORTEX incapable of building a stable loadset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickysaurus Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 If a purge and deploy works then would imply that something in your setup is removing the mod files from the game folder. Vortex doesn't do anything with your mods unless you specifically tell it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzTCoyote Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 If a purge and deploy works then would imply that something in your setup is removing the mod files from the game folder. Vortex doesn't do anything with your mods unless you specifically tell it to. What in my setup might be causing that? If it was my anti-malware wouldn't it be bragging about finding and isolating a 'virus'?Mysterious File Deleting Gremlins don't seem to bother with any of my other files. What possibilities are there?Has anyone else found a solution other than constantly 'purge and redeploy'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickysaurus Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Do you ever open the in-game Mods menu? That tends to break all kinds of stuff. If it's specific mods, you should do some tests to see if it disappears before and after you open the game. Vortex only ever changes your mods during a purge or deploy operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzTCoyote Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 I never use the in game mods menu. I use no CC content.It tends to be different files missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannin42 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Ok, so first: It would help if you were more precise telling us what's happening.Am I correct assuming that you're getting the in-game message going "This save relies on content that is no longer present..." ?Because that doesn't mean "mods are missing" necessarily, it means plugins are either missing or disabled.For the purpose of trying to diagnose your problem it's important to know whether actual files are missing from disk, as Picky assumed in his reply, or whether the plugins have merely been disabled.It would also be important to know if you're getting further messages, e.g. about "external changes" during deployment. If Vortex were deleting files, a re-deploy wouldn't fix it because Vortex would be deleting the actual mod files. If a redeploy fixes the problem, that means only the link in the game directory was missing. Vortex itself only ever touches those during deployment or purge. So it's definitively not Vortex removing individual links.However, if an external application was doing it, Vortex would notify you. So you're either leaving something out or no files are actually going missing and it's more likely that your plugin list (plugins.txt) gets modified.That file is found in "C:\Users\<your windows username>\AppData\Local\Fallout4" and if Vortex was the application that last changed it, the first line will say "# Automatically generated by Vortex" If it doesn't then either the game launcher or another modding tool you're running and "forgot" to mention has changed - and potentially left out - plugin files. Some tools (e.g. Mod Organizer) identify themselves when writing that file in the same way, others (NMM, the launcher) do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmantoo Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Be t time it happens open your plugins tab and sort on disabled. Vortex has picked up the nasty habit in the last week or so of randomly disabling plugins. At least it is happening on my skyrim ae profiles. Did a total nuke yesterday - steam, nexus, skyrim, tools, etc and it still happens. Not saying thats the case for other games but I suspect it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzTCoyote Posted September 3, 2022 Author Share Posted September 3, 2022 Now that I have some steps to take the next time it happens, It has not happened.I guess it's like how your car stops making the strange noise when you take it to the mechanic. Thank you for your patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzTCoyote Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 Culprit Found. But not sure why.My backup software. Yeah. I don't understand it either. Cobian Reflector had been going nuts in terms of resources consumed as it was doing incremental backups. I think it was triggered by each deployment looking like 'new or changed files' in my Fallout directory, and for some reason would remove or disable some files. No idea why it did that. After I shut down Cobian for a less resource-greedy backup tool, Vortex files have stayed where they belong. Thank you for the assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Geez. It's no wonder bug-tracking requires more psychic powers than fortune telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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