AriMania Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Okay, i'll just start from the very beginning considering almost everything I've done to make things better just made them way worse.It started off with a bug involving BHUNP, basically the breast and butt physics were static and would stretch upwards through my character's back when the bent over/crouched/ mined ore. Then somehow along the way of fixing that I managed to get the glitch where I teleported into the Sleeping Giant Inn with my followers missing and an NPC attacking me after I died or saved a new save then loaded the new save (if I loaded the past saves they loaded me into the correct spot) so I learned that I was way over the plugin limit and that's what causes that so I started using Zmerge and got my plugins to 233 in total (it used to be 512 but I never had an issue until trying to fix the body bugs) but now my skyrim loads infinitely after the bethesda logo when I start it up. So I googled it too and three different posts told me that RSChildren was the culprit, which I had, so I disabled it and all of the patches that came with it, still no luck. I've let LOOTY re-sort it after merging too but i'm just at a loss because i've found no other post to fix it besides the RS Children one. Please help, i'm completely defeated. Here's my load order 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp254 FE 2 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl254 FE 3 EFFCore.esm Eyes of Aber.esl254 FE 4 Lux - Resources.esp254 FE 5 Paraphernalia Anti-Flicker AIO.esp 8 8 Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm 9 9 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 10 a Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp 11 b 3DNPC.esp 12 c Lux Via.esp Water for ENB.esm 13 d AKSkyrimUnderground.esm JSwords.esm Smooth Weapon.esm Vanilla Scripts Enhanced.esl 14 e BSAssets.esm 15 f BSHeartland.esm 16 10 BS_DLC_patch.esp254 FE 6 Campfire.esm RaceCompatibility.esm 17 11 Falskaar.esm 18 12 CompanionArissa.esm 19 13 DBM_CC_HallOfWonders.esp ConfigureCommentaryRate.esl 20 14 Vigilant.esm 21 15 WheelsOfLull.esp 22 16 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 23 17 Wyrmstooth.esp254 FE 7 EVGAnimatedTraversal.esl wkup.esm TrueHUD.esl DMCO.esl DodgeFramework.esl NorthernIce.esp254 FE 8 Silah More Perch Areas.esl254 FE 9 iWant Widgets.esl SkyUI_SE.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp254 FE a SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp s6o6t Lore - Oblivion Gates.esp254 FE b FISS.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp 24 18 Skyland Watercolor - Slow Green iNeed.esp254 FE c iNeed.esp254 FE d iNeed - Extended.esp ELFX Fixes.esp 25 19 JKs Skyrim.esp 26 1a Good Guys Merge.esp 27 1b SeranaDialogAddon.esp 28 1c Looks Merge.esp 29 1d GreatWarSkyrim.esp 30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp Lux Via - plugin.esp 31 1f Lawbringer Merge.esp S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp Ryn's Farms.esp254 FE e Civil War Aftermath.esp 32 20 Beasts of Tamriel.esp254 FE f yumcheese.esp WICO - Immersive People.esp 33 21 Helgen Reborn.esp254 FE 10 LoS II - JKs Skyrim patch.esp goodbrother.esp Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp Ryn's Standing Stones.esp254 FE 11 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Dragon Overhaul Merge.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp254 FE 12 Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp 34 22 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 35 23 Undeath.esp 36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Point The Way.esp254 FE 13 Comprehensive_Falskaar_Fixes.esp TCBM.esp 37 25 moonpath.esp254 FE 14 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp MarkarthHelpTheWarrens.esp 38 26 Skytest Beasts of Tamriel.esp Holidays.esp JKs Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp254 FE 15 LCO_Framework.esp254 FE 16 LCO_LostValleyRedoubt.esp 39 27 UndeathFixes.esp254 FE 17 Ryn's Western Watchtower.esp254 FE 18 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Immersive Weapons.esp254 FE 19 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp 40 28 MVF1FollowerBeta.esp254 FE 1a Immersive Music.esp 41 29 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp254 FE 1b SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Lit Road Signs.esp Memorable Dragons.esp Occ_Skyrim_JK-Skyrim_patch.esp 42 2a PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 43 2b SkyrimSewers.esp Goodstormcloaks.esp 44 2c WayshrinesIFT.esp254 FE 1c man_DaedricShrines.esp 45 2d TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Cloaks.esp254 FE 1d SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp254 FE 1e Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp Khajiit Overhaul.esp254 FE 1f ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 46 2e Tel Mithryn.esp 47 2f Dwarfsphere.esp Witcher Horses 2.0.esp254 FE 20 TreasureHunter.esp SaveTheIcerunner.esp254 FE 21 018Auri.esp VioLens SE.esp254 FE 22 HearthfireMultiKid.esp DBM_GM_Tweaks01.esp DBM_GuardsArmorReplacer_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp 48 30 Inigo.esp DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp254 FE 23 BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp 49 31 WZOblivionArtifacts.esp DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp254 FE 24 Immersive Patrols II.esp254 FE 25 AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp 50 32 fortdawnguardimmersive.esp FDIELnFXPatch.esp 51 33 Clockwork.esp Arcanum.esp254 FE 26 LCO_BleakwindBluff.esp 52 34 Tame Beast.esp 53 35 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp Here to Help.esp254 FE 27 LoS II - Lantern Workers.esp254 FE 28 BGCollectables.esp NewArmoury.esp LoS II - ELFX patch.esp254 FE 29 DBM_BGCollectables_Patch.esp Craftable Horse Barding.esp254 FE 2a FDIWayshrinesPatch.esp DBM_AHO_Patch.esp DBM_CC_RareCuriosHOWPatch.esp DBM_CC_FishingHOWPatch.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp254 FE 2b Fossilsyum.esp254 FE 2c MiraakFollower.esp FDILOTDPatch.esp DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp254 FE 2d LCO_MolderingRuin.esp Quaint Raven Rock - ELFX Patch.esp 54 36 konahrik_accoutrements.esp 55 37 Tools of Kagrenac.esp DBM_TOK_Patch.esp DBM_ELFXExteriors_Patch.esp254 FE 2e LCO_FalkreathWatchtower.esp Ryns_Standing_Stones_-_Moon_and_Star_Patch.esp254 FE 2f LCO_RedwaterDen.esp Undriel_QRR Nav Fixed Patch.esp254 FE 30 SUDs.esp SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp Skyrim Reputation Improved.esp Skyrim Reputation Patch.esp254 FE 31 C.O.I.N.esp254 FE 32 AdditionalHearthfireDolls.esp DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp Ryn's Standing Stones - iNeed Extended Patch.esp JKs Skyrim_Clockwork_Patch.esp254 FE 33 LCO_RiftWatchtower.esp254 FE 34 LCO3D_RiftWatchtower.esp254 FE 35 man_DaedricShrines_Wintersun_Patch.esp DBM_MAS_Patch.esp254 FE 36 LCO_CradleStoneTower.esp PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp 56 38 SIC - SRCEO Integration.esp254 FE 37 mihailundeadsnowelf.esp 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp254 FE 38 DwemerSpectresLegendary.esp Bring Meeko to Lod.esp254 FE 39 LCO_StendarrsBeacon.esp254 FE 3a Faallokaar.esp254 FE 3b AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp254 FE 3c PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp254 FE 3d DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp254 FE 3e CWRepairs.esp254 FE 3f mihailsnowwhales.esp DBM_TreasureHunter_Patch.esp DBM_JaysusSwords_Patch.esp DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp 57 39 ForgottenCity.esp Ryn's_Standing_Stones_Ryn's_Farms_PATCH.esp DBM_KA_Patch.esp DBM_Fossils_Patch.esp DBM_CheeseMod_Patch.esp Clouds AIO.esp Falskaar - Bug Fixes.esp Ryn's Standing Stones - Moon and Star Patch.esp DBM_SUT_Patch.esp DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp Joy of Perspective.esp254 FE 40 LCO_Nilheim.esp DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp 58 3a Halls Of Dovahndor SSE.esp254 FE 41 Daedric Cults.esp254 FE 42 LoS II - 3DNPC addon.esp Ryn's Standing Stones - LOTD Patch.esp254 FE 43 treasure_hunt.esp Ryn's Farms - Skyrim Sewers.esp254 FE 44 LCO_PinefallBridge.esp254 FE 45 LCO_ShorsWatchtower.esp254 FE 46 icebladeofthemonarch.esp DBM_IceBladeMonarch_Patch.esp WICO - Immersive Character.esp254 FE 47 KhajiitChildren.esp254 FE 48 DBM_CC_SaintsSeducersHOWPatch.esp DBM_TheGrayCowlofNocturnal_Patch.esp Lux Via - Wyrmstooth addon.esp254 FE 49 DBM_NewTreasureHunt_Patch.esp DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp254 FE 4a LCO_DragonBridgeOverlook.esp Ryn's Standing Stones - Landscape Patch.esp254 FE 4b LCO_FourSkullLookout.esp254 FE 4c LCO3D_FourSkullLookout.esp Quaint Raven Rock - USSEP Patch.esp 59 3b Lucien.esp254 FE 4d ktWeaponPackSE.esp254 FE 4e 3DNPC0.esp DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp LoS II - LotD patch.esp Occ_Skyrim-Legacy_of_Dragonborn_patch.esp DBM_DwemerSpectres_Patch.esp DBM_ktWeaponPackSE_Patch.esp DBM_TeldrynSerious_Patch.esp 60 3c Haem Projects Goblands.esp DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp254 FE 4f DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp IntuitiveDragonRideControl.esp Philmorex.esp254 FE 50 LCO3D_Nilheim.esp254 FE 51 LCO_BannermistTower.esp254 FE 52 LCO_BleakFallsTower.esp254 FE 53 LoS II - SMIM patch.esp GotDragonsStandalone.esp254 FE 54 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp RynsStandingStonesInterestingNPCs Patch.esp Undriel_QRR_Clockwork_Patch.esp254 FE 55 LCO_SnowpointBeacon.esp254 FE 56 LCO_BthalftRuins.esp Lux Via - Ryn's Standing Stones patch.esp 61 3d shadowscaleset.esp AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp man_JyggalagShrine.esp254 FE 57 DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp254 FE 58 LoS II - USSEP patch.esp254 FE 59 LCO3D_FalkreathWatchtower.esp254 FE 5a BladeOfIntrigue_SE_Eng.esp 62 3e Weapons & Armor Merge.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp AMatterOfTime.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp BlendedRoads.esp 63 3f The Bow Of The Dark0ne.esp254 FE 5b CompanionsTweaks.esp Conditional Expressions.esp DBM_DBGG_Patch.esp man_sithis.esp MF - DS - LOTD - WSN.esp DiverseSkyimCivilWarFix.esp DS3 Weapon Pack New Armoury Patch.esp DS3 Weapon Pack.esp Ultimate Dragon Allies - Odahviing and Durnehviir - SE.esp DurnehviirResurrected.esp254 FE 5c Falskaar - iNeed Patch.esp Footprints.esp HORNY.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp254 FE 5d ImmersiveInteractions.esp254 FE 5e HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp Dragon Horns and Tails.esp254 FE 5f HouseOfHorrorsQuestExpansion.esp Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp254 FE 60 LoS II - Bruma patch.esp254 FE 61 Water for ENB - Patch - Beyond Skyrim.esp254 FE 62 Falskaar - SkyTEST and Bruma Patch.esp254 FE 63 Custom Family Home.esp254 FE 64 AkatoshDevoteeArmor.esp254 FE 65 CWRepairSGW.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory_AnimatedArmoury_Patch.esp254 FE 66 DawnguardArsenal.esp254 FE 67 FDIDGArsenalPatch.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp254 FE 68 FDISPOPatch.esp254 FE 69 IFDImmPatrolsIIPatch.esp Silah Female Dragon.esp254 FE 6a AE_animation_ENG.esp 64 40 The_Sinister_Seven.esp254 FE 6b LoS II - HelgenReborn patch.esp KS Hairdo's.esp DBM_ELFX_Patch.esp DBM_AdditionalHFDolls_Patch.esp DBM_HA_Patch.esp DBM_CC_Fish_HASynergy.esp DBM_CC_Fish_ToKSynergy.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp DBM_Namira_Patch.esp254 FE 6c AHO - Skytest Patch.esp My_Little_hatchling.esp NK_HornSlider.esp NB-Scars.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealNames - SSE Edition.esp RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp Search and Seizure For Good Guys.esp SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp254 FE 6d WayshrinesIFTBSBruma.esp254 FE 6e WayshrinesIFTGrayCowl.esp254 FE 6f WayshrinesIFTMoonpath.esp254 FE 70 WayshrinesIFTWyrmstooth.esp Fast Sprinting.esp SometimesPickUpBooks.esp SimpleXPBuff - Extreme.esp DragonsUseThuum.esp DragonCombatDialogue.esp olorosodahviing.esp 65 41 TimingIsEverything.esp Jop - LegacyOfDragonborn.esp 66 42 Unlimited Shouting.esp Water for ENB - Patch - Falskaar.esp254 FE 71 WayshrinesIFTFalskaar.esp Water for ENB - Patch - Wyrmstooth.esp BarbarianPaints.esp WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp254 FE 72 LCO_MarasEyeDen.esp254 FE 73 LCO_PinemoonCave.esp254 FE 74 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp254 FE 75 WetandCold.esp VolumeticMists.esp DBM_QuaintRavenRock_Patch.esp Populated Solstheim.esp VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp254 FE 76 HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp TamrielicGrass.esp FNIS.esp BDOR Corbicanus by Team TAL.esp KozakowyLetoOutfit.esp [COCO]Fairy_Queen_Full_A.esp Dark Souls Item Pack by Team TAL.esp SilverDragonArmor.esp 67 43 Mannequins Behave.esp WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp Precision.esp Supreme Ashstorms.esp Fluffworks.esp254 FE 77 mihailvampirebeasts.esp MountOdahviing.esp254 FE 78 LRD.esp MF - DS - LOTD Haunted - WSN.esp254 FE 79 Book Of Shadows.esp254 FE 7a C.O.I.N. - Beyond Skyrim Patch.esp254 FE 7b C.O.I.N. - Saints and Seducers Patch.esp Cinematic Sprint.esp Customizable Camera.esp Disable Turn Animation.esp HeelsFix.esp ImprovedAlternateConversationCamera.esp MCMHelper.esp ShowPlayerInMenus.esp Sleeping Expanded.esp Smooth Animation.esp Use Those Blankets.esp254 FE 7c Miraak_DialoguePatch.esp 68 44 UVNPC Serana Extension.esp254 FE 7d Wounds.esp DBM_Holidays_Patch.esp DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp 69 45 DBVO_Base.esp254 FE 7e DBVO_VoicePack_Female_SeranaDialogue.esp 70 46 DBVO_VoicePack_Triss_Skyrim.esp254 FE 7f CRB Auri Lenka Replacer.esp scar-adxp-patch.esp SmoothCam.esp ValhallaCombat.esp Attack_MCO.esp BeastHHBB.esp IBeasts - 3dNpcs.esp KabuArgonianFins.esp Khajiit have ears.esp PrettyKhajiit.esp Slof's Fluffy Khajiit Tails.esp Three Hairstyles for Khajiit.esp VanillaArgoniansRedux.esp ComplimentsInsults.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 71 47 Thuum.esp254 FE 80 know_your_enemy_redux.esp254 FE 81 ImmersiveMiraakDifficulty.esp Immersive Diseases.esp Lux Via - Blended Roads Bridges Texture sets.esp254 FE 82 Lucien-MoonandStar-Patch.esp254 FE 83 Lucien-Moonpath-Patch.esp254 FE 84 018InigoBanterPatch.esp254 FE 85 Arissa_DefaultBody+DialogFix.esp254 FE 86 Arissa Re-Imagined.esp EVGConditionalIdles.esp Witcher Horses - Craftable Horse Barding Patch.esp Witcher Horses - Nightmare - Black - Wings Up.esp Witcher Horses - Unicorn - Blue Ombre - Wings Up.esp Witcher Horses - Black Unicorn - Black Red Ombre - Wings Up.esp OblivionMusic.esp 72 48 SRCEO - WICO Patch.esp254 FE 87 3DNPCEFF.esp DBM_SRCEO_Patch.esp Race Compatiblity - Serana Add-on Dialogue.esp 73 49 SDA Campfire Patch.esp254 FE 88 SDA Wintersun Patch.esp254 FE 89 LoS II - Campfire addon.esp SilahRideDialogue.esp254 FE 8a Miraak Remaster.esp 74 4a SIC - Skytest Integration.esp GoTDragonsEnemy.esp Blade of Intrigue AA Patch.esp254 FE 8b PrvtI_HA_DraugrWeapons.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory_AA_USSEP.esp254 FE 8c AdditionalHFDollsPassivesPatch.esp DBM_DGA_Patch.esp DBM_SkyrimSewers_Patch.esp254 FE 8d DBM_SUDs_Patch.esp DragonsFallDown.esp Companions No Werewolf Option.esp DBM_CC_SaS_CuriosAddon.esp DBM_CC_Fish_CuriosAddon.esp Easy lockpicking.esp KozakowyAccessories.esp KS Jewelry.esp Reanimated Detector.esp DM BDOR La Orzeca by Team TAL.esp TrueDirectionalMovement.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Guard Cloaks.esp254 FE 8e Bruma - iNeed Patch.esp254 FE 8f Bruma - SkyTEST Patch.esp Bruma - Violens Patch.esp254 FE 90 BS_Campfire.esp BaboYgnordPatch.esp BHUNP3BBB.esp earthquakes - MCM.esp Jop - BrumaPatch.esp Obsidian Weathers for Vigilant.esp RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp254 FE 91 Wintersun - SIC Patch.esp254 FE 92 Wintersun - ZIA Patch.esp 75 4b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 76 4c Environment Merge.esp 77 4d Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 78 4e Follower Merge.esp CFTO.esp ImprovedCompanionsBoogaloo.esp Immersive Horses.esp CFTO-JK-Patch.esp254 FE 93 EFFDialogue.esp 79 4f RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp CFTO-iNeed-Patch.esp254 FE 94 CFTO_fix.esp CFTO-Lanterns.esp Lux Via - CFTO patch.esp CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp Witcher Horses - Immersive Horses.esp Skytest Immersive Horses.esp DBM_ImmersiveHorses_Patch.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp254 FE 95 LovelyLetter.esp254 FE 96 SDA RDO Patch.esp Immersive Horses - BS Bruma Patch.esp254 FE 97 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp XPMSE.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Are you trying to load a save game, or just loading the game to start a new one?This sounds more like a Load Order/Merge problem than a Vortex problem.I have 148 esps, and 177 light esps and I just use Wryebash to make a bashed patchI also got rid of Legacy of the Dragonborn because the amount of patches it needed was just beyond practical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 spoiler tags for the name of christ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriMania Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) Ignore this reply I messed up a quote Edited May 21, 2023 by AriMania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriMania Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 Are you trying to load a save game, or just loading the game to start a new one? This sounds more like a Load Order/Merge problem than a Vortex problem.I have 148 esps, and 177 light esps and I just use Wryebash to make a bashed patchI also got rid of Legacy of the Dragonborn because the amount of patches it needed was just beyond practical Basically i'm trying to load new saves after a certain savepoint where they are seemingly broken? Trying to load the new saves is what teleports me into the sleeping giant inn with things all reset, but the old saves load perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriMania Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 spoiler tags for the name of christ! Oh i'm confused, what would this be a spoiler for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 spoiler tags for the name of christ! Oh i'm confused, what would this be a spoiler for? Spoiler tags are commonly used to turn very long lists (like the list of mods you are using) into a single small button that people can open or not depending on whether they want to see your list. Prevents them from having to scroll past your list every time they look at the thread. It's considered polite on the forums to use spoiler tags on anything of excessive length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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