DH: Lore Invasion

[Jamie123]

Within the Dark Horizons universe, the backdrop for DH: Lore Invasion, the future is not what you think it is. The future is inhospitable to humans and their weak and frail human bodies. The battle for supremacy in the war-torn Earth of 2155 is fought between the most lethal war machines ever to engage in combat. History will remember this era as "The Turning Point". After 150 years of uneasy peace, the fragile stalemate was ripped apart and the Earth was once again plunged into a war that will decide the future of "No Man's Land", formerly known as "North America".

[Guest]

Dark Horizons: Lore Invasion is a fantastic upgrade to an already superb game - the gameplay ranges from simply fragfest to tactical cat-and-mouse all in one battle, the outcome of the battle could depend on your choice of vehicle.

 

I've gone for the classic FPS control scheme, which is the default (NOT like Mechwarrior, which is what your review implied). I've also bought MANY games for well over twice the cost of Lore Invasion that have lasted less than one tenth of the time.

 

Also, when was the last time you blew up a dev in mechwarrior?

[Guest]

I've been playing this game since Christmas now. A friend reccommended it to me a while back when I was looking for a Mech sim to replace Mechwarrior 3 which I was an avid fan of. When I finally got some free time at Christmas I installed the demo, and within a week I'd bought the full version.

 

I originally started playing the game when it was at version 1.12 and really enjoyed it. The new build (Invasion) seems to be a drastic step forward for the game to me. New abilities and new maps which make the game that much more enjoyable. If you're into mech sims, I'd really reccommend this game.

[Fozzie]

I have to say I am very disappointed in this review. Not simply because it trashes a good game, but because the reviewer spends more time bemoaning the fact that the game isn't Mechwarrior. Well guess, what it was never marketed as such.

 

Lore Invasion is an action-oriented FPS/Mecha hybrid game which emphasises quick action and not grandpa's Mechwarrior of find a game, wait 30 minutes for a game to begin (because someone wants to tool around in the Mech Lab to find some l33t combination) and then run around in circle at one another on flat terrain. There is a reason why Mech games like this aren't sold anymore. Players want action and that's exactly what Lore Invasion provides. You can quickly configure your Mech for your type of game play (ie. speed, brute force, well rounded, etc.) and then get into combat in a matter of minutes. I can tell you as a Mechwarrior fan I found this to be a pleasent change, I just want to play a game and enjoy the conflict and competition, not fiddle with stupid stats in a Mech lab and then lumber about on a battlefield looking for combat.

 

This reviewers comments on the controls are also confusing? In one part he says that he likes the controls and the next hes complaining that they are too complicated? Make up your mind here buddy, which one is it?

 

Lore Invasion uses the standard FPS controls and also allows you to use a Joystick if you have one, so how exactly is this confusing? Move forward, back, strafe left/right, turn, switch weapons, jump jets, and jump are confusing? In the stark comparison to the nasty controls that simulation games like Mechwarrior use this is actually incredibly light weight and easy to pick up irregardless of your age. Not only this but you can extend your controls if you feel you need it, so IMHO it provides the best of both FPS and Mech worlds, quick controls that you can get into and the option to go beyond that if you want to.

 

I also find the reviewers comments on the graphics to be biased garbage. So what if it doesn't use Pixel Shaders? Pixel shaders do not make games good, they are at best just eye candy. Lore Invasion is a really good looking game that has graphics on par with Quake 3, Painkiller and others, which last time I looked were still popular games even though they don't offer pixel shaders.

 

Lastly, the Devs and Publishers tell me that you only got a review copy of the game last night (March 21st) and you have a review written up so quickly!? It makes me wonder how the reviewer can actually spend some time playing the game and writing his review in less than 12 hours? What a joke. This reviewer is a complete sham and should take some time to actually play the products he's supposed to review.

 

So to sum it up. This is a great game, its a fun game, and its an enjoyable game that will give you a great value for your dollar. Try it out for yourself because its obvious to anyone who has played Lore Invasion that the reviewer hasn't.

[Fozzie]

LOL get this!

 

I was just talking to the devs of this game and apparently they looked at the logs and apparently the reviewer was only in the game for 30 minutes! What the heck is up with that? I call BS!

[Dark0ne]

Ok, I'll answer your complaints with the review in this thread.

 

I have to say I am very disappointed in this review. Not simply because it trashes a good game, but because the reviewer spends more time bemoaning the fact that the game isn't Mechwarrior

 

Mech Warrior was used as a comparison to the game since it is the closest in likeness. Just like I would compare Everquest 2 to World of Warcraft and Half-Life 2 to Doom 3, I have compared the closest game to it. Mech Warrior is a great game, and as such I'm sure the developers of Dark Horizon's will have compared their game to Mech Warrior more than once.

 

Lore Invasion is an action-oriented FPS/Mecha hybrid game which emphasises quick action and not grandpa's Mechwarrior of find a game, wait 30 minutes for a game to begin (because someone wants to tool around in the Mech Lab to find some l33t combination) and then run around in circle at one another on flat terrain. There is a reason why Mech games like this aren't sold anymore. Players want action and that's exactly what Lore Invasion provides. You can quickly configure your Mech for your type of game play (ie. speed, brute force, well rounded, etc.) and then get into combat in a matter of minutes. I can tell you as a Mechwarrior fan I found this to be a pleasent change, I just want to play a game and enjoy the conflict and competition, not fiddle with stupid stats in a Mech lab and then lumber about on a battlefield looking for combat

 

I've turned what you said on your head and commented that the game loses it's depth (which you admit) in return for a much more "plug-and-play" orientation. I welcome you to review the game yourself using our user review system, provided your not a developer of the game. Many people have already messaged me commenting it's likely you're a game developer -- one even went so far as to comment that developers from Driv3r were sacked due to their developers interfering with independent user reviews.

 

Your choice.

 

This reviewers comments on the controls are also confusing? In one part he says that he likes the controls and the next hes complaining that they are too complicated? Make up your mind here buddy, which one is it?

 

...and what the review ACTUALLY says...

 

The controls can be hard to grasp to begin with, especially if you’re not a Mech Warrior veteran, but after a couple of maps you’ll grasp what each one does and where to use it. If you have problems you can always ask the other players who are generally willing to help newcomers. Dark Horizons: Lore is the first game I’ve had to grab a joystick for in a long time. While not entirely necessary what able-minded person wouldn’t? The game allows for either the joystick or the mouse to be used. While you may find the mouse to be a little more accurate and easy to use, the joystick provides a much better and realistic feeling to the game.

 

I fail to see a contradiction in what I say. I'd rather you didn't put words in my mouth.

 

I also find the reviewers comments on the graphics to be biased garbage. So what if it doesn't use Pixel Shaders? Pixel shaders do not make games good, they are at best just eye candy. Lore Invasion is a really good looking game that has graphics on par with Quake 3, Painkiller and others, which last time I looked were still popular games even though they don't offer pixel shaders.

 

..and what the review says...

 

Once you’ve finished your preparations it’ll be time to start the battle. Normally you’ll be joining a battle that’s already started so it’s up to you to catch up with the events. In my opinion the graphics are somewhere between Mech Warrior 2 and Mech Warrior 3. They’re far from Half-Life 2 impressive, but they’re also not detrimental to the plug-and-play fun you’ll experience. Do not buy this game if you’re looking for pretty environments, gorgeous water and smoke effects and ultra-detailed textures. On the plus side it really reduces the system requirements for playing the game and even old computers won’t have a problem running this game.

 

Biased in space of what, exactly? In space of Mech Warrior? I think Mech Warrior is a superior game, but I'd hardly say it's a biased comment.

 

I'd hardly compare Quake 3's graphics to Painkiller's, which were far superior. I don't even say the graphics ruin the game. Did you skip over the "They’re far from Half-Life 2 impressive, but they’re also not detrimental to the plug-and-play fun you’ll experience" part? The graphics are FAR from amazing and to say they're on par with Painkiller is, in my opinion, utterly laughable.

 

Lastly, the Devs and Publishers tell me that you only got a review copy of the game last night (March 21st) and you have a review written up so quickly!? It makes me wonder how the reviewer can actually spend some time playing the game and writing his review in less than 12 hours? What a joke. This reviewer is a complete sham and should take some time to actually play the products he's supposed to review.

 

This is correct, I installed the game late last night. Played it for a couple of hours last night and a couple of hours this morning. The game is hardly so deep that it requires that I play it for 10 - 20 hours just to understand the mechanics. I played it enough to understand how it plays, how it works and how it feels...that's definately enough to write a review on. What's a sham is the fact you come on here without really know half the story (only the end product of it) and expecting to tarnish my review simply because it doesn't put your favoured game at the moment in a huge butt-licking spotlight.

 

So to sum it up. This is a great game, its a fun game, and its an enjoyable game that will give you a great value for your dollar.

 

So you're pretty much agreeing with me? Great. Did you even READ my review?

[ThetaOrionis01]

LOL - am I the only one who finds it slightly odd that 3 new members joined within about 15 minutes of each other for the sole purpose of posting in support of a game that was reviewed less than an hour before those members joined?

 

Looks like an orchestrated campaign to me :laugh2:

 

I didn't think the review was that bad either.

[Guest]

Well, im kinda disapointed in the reviewers "review" as well.

He didnt really look into the game at all. Otherwise he would have realized the more complex features and additions that are in lore. Things like comcent which is a HUGE part of lore, and yet the only thing he mentions about it is : "Each location is contested for and will change hands between the two warring factions over the course of your online career many times (at least, that’s the idea!)" I think thats a really arrogant remark, seeing as within a week maps do get invaded and defended from the different factions many times.

The special ability of the mavs, the on going support for the game(cant say that for many other game companies) and the actual ongoing universe(meaning additions to the game as time progresses) were never mentioned.

And does Lore have the best graphics? No, it doesnt. But on the other hand doom 3 entertained me for 12 hours, lore has entertained me for a year. Graphics mean nothing, gameplay means everything.

 

Looking for a die hard mech game? wont find it in Lore. Looking for a CS kind of game? Wont find it in Lore. But if your looking for a combination, and your willing on giving it a chance as combination and not as one or the other, i have a strong feeling you will like lore.

[Fozzie]

Actually what more of a reason do you want for new people to come in and join? Isn't this the very reason why sites post reviews and attempt to draw in more (edit: i had "my" here for some stupid rason) regulars and members?

 

Those of us who were new today and are posting are here because we like this game and felt that the reviewer didn't do enough of a job looking into the game and trying it out to really do a thorough review. Sure he said some kind words about the game, but he said a lot of incorrect ones as well. Plus this thing reads like an inverse IGN review (IGN being one full of bad comments of the game but a high score) where the reviewer says good things and then gives it some pretty bad scores that are completely unjust. The question that should be asked is "Is the game good and enjoyable?" Obviously it is if the reviewer gave it a high score in game play, but the problem is that he also gave some bad scores too which many of us feel is incorrect and makes a great game look rather poor. So we want to let people know that this is not the case and that they should check it out and play it.

 

I am sorry if you feel that it is unfair for us to be here and trashing a review by one of your community members, but please understand our reasons for needing to be devils advocate here. I apoligize if my comments offended anyone (which they probably did looking back) but like I said its a great game that I love to play and have gotten a ton of value from by purchasing, so its tough to let something so cool get unfairly beaten down.

[Guest]

LOL - am I the only one who finds it slightly odd that 3 new members joined within about 15 minutes of each other for the sole purpose of posting in support of a game that was reviewed less than an hour before those members joined?

Not sure if any of us had heard of this site before someone said "check this review out" and dropped a link in a few channels.

 

And yeah, I'm a dev on the game. Lead QA and Tester. But I was a fan for a year before they asked me to get onboard. I run the longest standing Lore fansite at www.cleversheep.co.uk - I am a fan before I'm a dev. Your review was definately incorrect on several points, which are now being discussed (how it should be).

 

This game is not, nor was ever intended to be Mechwarrior. It's like saying that Driver3 and Gran Turismo are the same game because they both have cars in them.