do you guys also think "pretty companion" mods are getting out of hand?

[BlackRoseOfThorns]

alright, thanks to all you guys who finally answered my question. i was just about to delete this thread from my bookmarks too as i did not expect anyone to actually come with a proper response, so thank you to all you guys on page 2 :laugh:

 

Better question would be "Why the WIP mod projects that I'm waiting for are not released yet?" Q_Q

 

It's easy to make couple entry level follower mods, but it takes 2-3 years to get big and immersive projects complete. The simple mods are either miss or hit and you can never be sure, if there is stability/compability issue untill some time later. With basic followers there is not much to break and you can change them like gloves. You download it, wait 15min, click endorse and leave.

 

It's like asking why common plates sale better and there is more of them on the shop shelf, then engraved silverware.

Edited January 25, 2015 by BlackRoseOfThorns

[Novem99]

 

Also, some people will see your post as trolling.

 

I have to admit I had to laugh reading such things especially from a guy like you!

 

@softgunforever: I totally agree. Sad thing about this is that true masterpieces don't get the attention they deserve because of all the redundant follower mods. On the other hand if you take a look at the endorsements these follower mods get there is obviously a high demand for that. But that coincides with a lot of other strange tendencies you can watch every day in the mod requests section of this forum.

[Deleted31005User]

 

I honestly feel this is more nexus's fault then it's users. They should have a much more costumizable and interesting hotfiles systems based on what the user likes, instead of "whatever random new mod happened to receive a lot of endorsements these past few days"

 

I mean, the way it works now unless you get featured on a youtube channel or get in the hotfiles within a few days after uploading your mod, you have basically no chance of your mod being well known and popular.

I totally agree with this statement, it doesn't matter much if a mod is any good or not because the most important thing is publicity from youtube casters. You could make a brilliant mod but if its not getting any attention from youtube casters your mod is going to be forgotten in the background where nobody will ever find it.

But the thing that imo is the worst about Nexus are the mod lists, basically it all boils down to how many people you can attract, the more people that download your mod the more endorsements you will receive, this leads to your mod going to the hot-files and the mod of the month list which means even more endorsements, this also brings your mod higher in the general "category" list and this yet again brings in more people to download your mod....basically its a cumulative effect of more and more endorsements and getting higher in the mod lists.

 

Also those old mods from 4 years ago that are on the top of that list have gotten so many endorsements now that they will ALWAYS stay on the top, no matter if a newer and 10x better mod comes along, because people will still see/download/endorse that old mod far more than the newer one.

And on the other hand that new mod will never get that much attention, meaning it will never be able to compete with that old mod due to how the Nexus works.

Lets be honest here, if people search for mods they will very rarely go beyond the first or the second page in their category list, all the mods beyond that are just clutter in the background covered in dust that nobody looks at.

 

Of course you have the rare exceptions of mods that somehow manage to break through all that, but accomplishing this is almost impossible at this point, the mod would have to be perfect, get massive youtube publicity and show fancy screenshots with full blown ENB to attract people.

 

Imo these are the 3 most important things to make mods be a success:

1.)Youtube publicity

This is by far the best (and probably the only) way to actually get your mod set on the right course, without these casters you have no chance of your mod becoming known to the public and it will be forgotten in the background where nobody finds it.

If you are a well known modder those youtube casters will feature your mod without questions, if however you are a new to the modding scene you have little chance of those casters showing any interest in your work...

 

2.)Time

Old successful mods will always have the advantage of time on their side, newer mods just cannot compete with that, instead of Nexus showing the total amount of endorsements it could very well only show the endorsements giver for each month(or show both total and monthly endorsements), this would allow newer and better made mods to also compete with those older mods.

Sadly this is not the case and imo this is major flaw in how Nexus works because it doesn't give newer mods any chance of survivability, people will still download the old mods since they remain on the top of the list...for ever.

Its like a circle of cumulative effect that keeps going for those old mods while it bumps out all the newer mods.

 

3.)Sex appeal

Well what can I say, sex sells...put some fancy ladies on the screenshots with a nice ENB and voila, you've got people downloading it like its free candy while the endorsements follow suit and before you know it its in the hot list and file of the month list.

 

So to reply on the OP's question: pretty much everything that could be modded for Skyrim has been done by now in some extent so people don't have much interest in newer mods that basically accomplish the same thing as older mods, however something that people will always be interested in are fancy female characters and armors as long as it has that extra "sparkle" that the previous female mod did not have.

Edited January 25, 2015 by Guest

[squiggy048]

Id guess that male to female ratio on Nexus is leaning more towards Male (but not as much as it used to), so young modders have the ladies on their mind I guess. :-)

[BlackRoseOfThorns]

Nexus endorsement is a tool for users. If you are looking for quality mod, then G.E.M.S. is the place to look for it. Useful mods get as much attention as follower ones. There is just more of the latter, that works out for majority of players. For example how many of you will download Falmer Playable Race mod?

 

http://gon.cdn.on.net/uploads/2012/12/falmer.jpg

[skinnytecboy]

Does the hotfile system run on endorsements or downloads? I've never wondered until now. If it is downloads, is that unique downloads only.

 

Personally (and perhaps selfishly) I would be happy if the system ran upon percentages of endorsement and download. That way someone with 10 endorsements and 100 downloads would be noticed more.

 

But harping back, I think its a good thing to see something that you perhaps don't like or disagree with. Hopefully, it drives you to be even more creative and "think outside the box"

[jaxtax1]

I agree. Too many pretty faces are featured that offer nothing else. They are all superhero, flame balling vixens, set as essential. Featured items should promote variety that is consistent with the original game play.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

Id guess that male to female ratio on Nexus is leaning more towards Male (but not as much as it used to), so young modders have the ladies on their mind I guess. :-)

yes it is 49% female 51% male at the moment it used to be 48 and 52

[Terra Nova]

 

 

I honestly feel this is more nexus's fault then it's users. They should have a much more costumizable and interesting hotfiles systems based on what the user likes, instead of "whatever random new mod happened to receive a lot of endorsements these past few days"

 

I mean, the way it works now unless you get featured on a youtube channel or get in the hotfiles within a few days after uploading your mod, you have basically no chance of your mod being well known and popular.

I totally agree with this statement, it doesn't matter much if a mod is any good or not because the most important thing is publicity from youtube casters. You could make a brilliant mod but if its not getting any attention from youtube casters your mod is going to be forgotten in the background where nobody will ever find it.

But the thing that imo is the worst about Nexus are the mod lists, basically it all boils down to how many people you can attract, the more people that download your mod the more endorsements you will receive, this leads to your mod going to the hot-files and the mod of the month list which means even more endorsements, this also brings your mod higher in the general "category" list and this yet again brings in more people to download your mod....basically its a cumulative effect of more and more endorsements and getting higher in the mod lists.

 

Also those old mods from 4 years ago that are on the top of that list have gotten so many endorsements now that they will ALWAYS stay on the top, no matter if a newer and 10x better mod comes along, because people will still see/download/endorse that old mod far more than the newer one.

And on the other hand that new mod will never get that much attention, meaning it will never be able to compete with that old mod due to how the Nexus works.

Lets be honest here, if people search for mods they will very rarely go beyond the first or the second page in their category list, all the mods beyond that are just clutter in the background covered in dust that nobody looks at.

 

Of course you have the rare exceptions of mods that somehow manage to break through all that, but accomplishing this is almost impossible at this point, the mod would have to be perfect, get massive youtube publicity and show fancy screenshots with full blown ENB to attract people.

 

 

And I'm never doing any of that unnecessary bullshit.

[squiggy048]

3 out of 6 mods are female companion mods on front page today. Yawn. Really ? I KNOW there are better/more varied mods.