Who are you voting for?

[Rocherd]

I vote for myself to move out of the US permanently.

[colourwheel]

If the amount of people on this forum who are declining from voting or choose to vote for anyone other than people actually running is any indication how this election might turn out, Clinton probably has already won the election. From my perspective, it's been known for a while that the majority of the people who participate politically in the debate section have been leaning towards the right of the political spectrum for quite some time now.

 

So I will just say it now... Clinton 2016!!! :teehee: :dance: :tongue:

[HeyYou]

I think most of the folks here, that don't want to see Hilary win, will go out and vote against her, in the hopes that it doesn't happen.

[RGMage2]

I don't get a vote but I'll make a prediction. Ted Cruz beats Trump in a contested primary and then squeaks out a win over Hilary. He then goes on to become the most hated, detested, reviled, despised and dangerous President in the history of USA.

[colourwheel]

I think most of the folks here, that don't want to see Hilary win, will go out and vote against her, in the hopes that it doesn't happen.

 

One of the reason why the "never trump" movement has been so ineffective since it began is because it has never been unified to support anyone one candidate for any particular reasons. If you are suggesting people will be so moved to go out to vote only to stop Clinton from getting elected, I have very little confidence in this working out well. There already is a precedent that only being against a candidate in an election ends up hurting the other candidate(s) in the race more.

[HeyYou]

 

I think most of the folks here, that don't want to see Hilary win, will go out and vote against her, in the hopes that it doesn't happen.

 

One of the reason why the "never trump" movement has been so ineffective since it began is because it has never been unified to support anyone one candidate for any particular reasons. If you are suggesting people will be so moved to go out to vote only to stop Clinton from getting elected, I have very little confidence in this working out well. There already is a precedent that only being against a candidate in an election ends up hurting the other candidate(s) in the race more.

 

In this day and age, I think there are more folks that go out to vote AGAINST some particular candidate, as there are that go out to vote FOR some particular candidate. When all you get is the choice of lesser evils..... what else ya gonna do?

[Rocherd]

 

 

I think most of the folks here, that don't want to see Hilary win, will go out and vote against her, in the hopes that it doesn't happen.

 

One of the reason why the "never trump" movement has been so ineffective since it began is because it has never been unified to support anyone one candidate for any particular reasons. If you are suggesting people will be so moved to go out to vote only to stop Clinton from getting elected, I have very little confidence in this working out well. There already is a precedent that only being against a candidate in an election ends up hurting the other candidate(s) in the race more.

 

In this day and age, I think there are more folks that go out to vote AGAINST some particular candidate, as there are that go out to vote FOR some particular candidate. When all you get is the choice of lesser evils..... what else ya gonna do?

 

Move out... Sounds more expensive than it is... US is ranked 20 (out of 170, that one being N. Korea) in personal freedoms and libertys (not counting Right to Privacy and Right to be Forgotten, Counting thoughs i think its like 38 or 40 area.). With each bill US has been passing, its falling on free country list.

 

US gov is likly to put itself in the position of one major mistake or major action against its people before it gets FUBAR, from within or from multiple free countrys, and i dont want to be in the US to see a blood bath, and/or witch burnings (if it happens from within).

 

Ironically, you have the right to remain silent, but not the right to privacy lol.

Edited April 17, 2016 by Rocherd

[Harbringe]

I think most of the folks here, that don't want to see Hilary win, will go out and vote against her, in the hopes that it doesn't happen.

 

The unfav/fav ratings of both Trump and Cruz is worse than Clinton . So even if most here would not want Clinton , thats not the way its likely to play out in a general election.

 

@Colourwheel

 

As for Hillary being the nominee she is not there yet and I think people are taking for granted what can happen in New York. Bernie has a lot going for him in New York.

 

1. He was born and raised there , he's a Brooklyn Boy.

2. He has been having rallies that have been attended by multiple thousands and in some cases 10's of thousands. At one rally the NY police estimated the crowd to be approaching 30,000. When it comes to people attending his rallies he has been massively outdrawing Hillary . He has been holding his rallies in parks and arena's in order to fit the crowds (and even then having overflow) , Hillary has been holding her rallies in halls and theaters generally , like the Apollo theater in NY with a max capacity of 1500.

3. Bernie has been beating the polls on a very consistent basis , generally between 5 - 15 points , but in some cases like Michigan (where he made up a 30 point deficit) , its been shown that when people get to hear him , his numbers just get stronger. And they have been hearing a lot of him for the last 2 weeks.

4. By all indications he has strongest ground game going on in NY (flyers in mailboxes,phone volunteers , etc).

5. Everyone keeps saying Hillary would be the first woman President and break the glass ceiling . Well OK but how about NY having a population of around 3.5 million jews , heavily democratic , heavily registered and Bernie is jewish . Wouldn't you think having the first jewish President would also be breaking a glass ceiling in America and that might be something that would be important to 3.5 million jews. Why no one in the media has been talking about this is beyond me , seems obvious it could be a factor in this primary.

 

Other than that the one thing Hillary has most in her favor is that its a closed primary and you had to register back in Oct of last year and Bernie didn't seem a contender back then and that plays heavily in her favor.

 

My point is I wouldn't assume anything right now.

Edited April 17, 2016 by Harbringe

[HeyYou]

It ain't over till the lady sings. :)

 

Should be interesting to watch at least. :D

[Deleted54170User]

I am remembering a day when a man who made promises so thin, there was only a hope his competition could see. The blind did not tell, and his competition fell because we all know, the blind may not be able to see but their hearing is much better so they hear the little tonal shifts which the candidates have that speak louder than their words.

 

Vote the way the blind do and you'll get the best of the bunch. Vote with those with sight and you'll get a chance to see if you were led blindly down one path or blindly up the other leading to the best we can get.

 

Then there are still those who will vote "party specific" and are ignoring all the debates, all the televised rambling shouts, and shots at each other. They rank high numbers.