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why is there so much garbage on fo4 nexus right now.


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This is why I go to catagories and only look in the ones that may contain what I need... /shrug.

 

...But what if for what you need you'll have to look for among hundreds of pages and among thousands of mods?? What if i told you it would be much closer (Like seriously closer) to the front page if it were not for all those garbage mods? LOL You people miss the whole point of this post! His complaints are perfectly justified! Its frustrating having to go through all those amateur garbage just to find something decent! Checking specific categories doesn't solve that problem in any way! OMG It just effectively manages the database of all the files on the site and gives you more organized access to all the mods uploaded there, but it doesn't make things go faster like you try to make it sound!...The best solution for this would be to create "Junk" category of mods and hire someone, who would constantly manage and check if anyone keeps posting "junk" stuff in other categories, so that he would immediately react and keep the site clean and organized that way! The judgement of whether the mod caters to the "junk" category or not should also be that person's privilege and only HE should decide whether some specific mod is worthy of staying in "good mods" categories or it should be sorted into "junk mods" category instead! That would help to more or less deliver nexus modding community from all that nasty stuff and make it easier for people to find something much more decent!

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Yes, because what determines a mod being junk, or not junk... isn't going to be totally devoid of bias. Right?

 

As per the original post, if the OP is finding "hurrr get all cheat items here" in the same location as an armor retexture - something else is wrong.

Hence, my comment about catagories. I've sat there, and I've picked through hundreds of pages for mods when I didn't know what I wanted.

When I know what I want? Search function. Keywords, and be on my merry way.

 

A better solution would be a "fun" catagory or use the miscellaneous, and anything ridiculous the modder/uploader themselves could place it there... but I digress..

I'm not missing the point of the post.

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So who decides what is junk, and what is not? Who has the right to make arbitrary distinctions like that? To paraphrase "Some may call this junk ... Me I call them treasures"

 

A blatantly fake/false/non-functional/potentially game breaking mod will be reported and subsequently removed by the admins, same goes for anything that is an obvious "troll" or virus/trojan/damaging to your PC upload. But aside from that, if someone took the time to create a mod for the game, and then took more time to upload it, because they believed others might like it, should feel secure in the knowledge that someone won't come along and just delete it.

 

So again I ask .. .Who TF are you or the OP to decide the fate of uploaded mods?

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Given that the default sort order on the nexus is descending by ENDORSEMENTS, I find the complaint hilariously entitled. So basically you're saying that people shouldn't have uploaded stuff that other people actually LIKED, because YOU didn't like it, and are too spoiled (or stupid) to click twice on the next page link? (Because, frankly, most categories are between 1 page and 3 pages at the moment.)

 

Jesus, junior, take a hint. Tastes are relative. If enough other people liked mod A so it's closer to the top, but not many liked mod B, exactly why should anyone give a damn that it's garbage for YOU? What makes your opinion more accurate than theirs?

 

Besides, I always find it hilariously entitled when someone thinks they're entitled to DEMAND that people spend anywhere between weeks and months making what HE personally wants -- in fact, drop everything else and do it RIGHT NAO -- because he's too lazy to spend mere minutes browsing more than one page. WTH?

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It should be common knowledge that you shouldn't modifie load orders at all during a playthrough. Add a Mod, remove a Mod, rearrange a Mod and at the same time expect everything's working flawlessly doesn't go. Making tools responsible for user acting risky is nothing to blame creators of such tools for. On the contrary, blaming tools that inject wrong ID's into savegames is valid. Also, I said it COULD potentially harm your game, not necessarily do it...some are just lucky, and except once, including me... :wink:

to be honest i was blaming user error as i have come across so many people who make the mistake. in my case i never did it by accident as i knew i could break my game from the begining simply by reading one line: "start a new game after installing mods." the reason i install mods and use the same save is because i know how to fix it and which mods can be installed without hurting much and which to not install. or i simply didnt care and was just experimenting.

 

 

oh also i want to point out i have seen posts about this exact same topic for just about every single bethesda game hosted on this site throughout their mod life here. a few months ago someone was complaining about how people were making so many gawd dang freakin followers and called them out as not being modders for it.

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all of the good mods like the x-01 enclave retexture and 4k pipboy retexture are all getting hidden by all of the lame cop-out "HUR GET ALL ITEMS" or "HUR POWER CORES DONT DRAIN" etc etc.

 

and theyre all getting ENDORSED too. its so infuriating. those people are making a straight mockery of nexus.

 

cheats arent mods

 

Hover over the "Files" button, and select "Categories". That should make it easier for you to find specifically what you're looking for.

 

"Front page fame" has always been short lived and modders generally depend on people knowing what they're looking for and doing a bit of digging to find their mods. Also, a few endorsements to a few cheap mods isn't a big deal; the best mods will get more in the long run. Though, it doesn't help that nowadays the nexus bugs you about endorsing every mod you've downloaded and I bet a lot of people just auto-endorse the entire list on the pop-up.

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Change the load order once, Vilja's wardrobe system stops working, change it again and the follow distance function in AFT stops working, Change it a few more times and a mod that is compatible with another no longer wants to play nice. keep changing it and the game becomes unstable and random CTD's start happening. Yeah I tested it and that was the results, no new mods added and a stable game that will play for 6 hours before it starts lagging and all the mods worked perfectly fine. It is not a maybe it will corrupt a save it will corrupt a save, might be something unnoticeable at first but eventually it will be a problem. Use BOSS or LOOT when you first add your mods but after you don't want to rearrange the load order and if people would stop telling everyone to run them every single time maybe we wouldn't have so many bug reports that becomes a wild goose chase trying to find out why the mod is causing a problem with another when that should be impossible. And lets not forget the thousands of bug reports about how something suddenly stopped working, you can find hundreds of similar reports to those in all the top 200 mods for Skyrim.

 

As for Snip, I asked for proof that it will corrupt a save file and none was provided. I have and did have mods that used it and not a single problem, I have not seen any reports of corrupt saves caused by any mod that was edited by Snip. Until proof is provided and there are reports on mods that were edited with it then the allegations are unsubstantiated. And furthermore the problem that was brought against Snip had nothing to do with ID's, it was using a different compression for part of the entries than what Skyrim.esm used and no proof that could be replicated that actually caused CTD's. Maybe the CTD's was because someone rearranged the load order and didn't realize it when they installed a Snip edited mod and then decided it was Snip. Maybe someone had a personal problem with the author of Snip as well, Kinda like telling people not to use a certain mod and even getting it practically blacklisted with BOSS.

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I share OP's frustration. There is a ton of garbage mods on Nexus FO4, to the point where I literally don't even scan for any mods because they are so trashy. I mean, another custom save file based on your version of the male or female protagonist? Dude, nobody, literally nobody cares.

 

Blocking modder names is going to be a full-time job for a while.

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I'm more concerned that the content of this site has been taken over by marketing types and PR firms to "Get your name in the news" in any way possible, even if it's just a cigarette brand being added to the game. That's advertising folks, be it for cigarettes or some Internet "personality" that simply wants to jack up Google searches or tweet counts.

 

I don't come to the Nexus for this crap, I come to the Nexus for creativity and the tools to build an Alternate Universe of my own. The LAST thing I want to see is Shia Labouf and his under-served Ego in ANY Alternate Universe.

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