Aintiarna Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Anyway, it needs modding. I don't understand why they didn't just give the female protagonist the same background as the male one. It would have made their dialogue writing more coherent, easier and believable for starters. Make them both ex-soldiers who had gone a bit soft as civilians. Who said they don't? For all we know she may have been a army lawyer and get some training, a cop that applied for a law degree or quite the army. Maybe she was in the army and thrown her uniform away because she doesn't anything to do with it. What RPers often neglect is a proper character development, they make everything related to the character via back story and don't change the PC through the game, hardly expanding from any hint. While that hardly a problem for some, it really limits one gameplay and views. He is this, because I saw that and the ship he came from hails from blah. Even if they became soft, the shock from seeing dead people, your loved ones taken and shot, big bugs and the world in ruins is enough of character development to be anyone from a wuss that doesn't want to fight to a harden fighters that always seeks a good death. Point taken. I headcannon all sorts of stuff no problem but I'd much prefer they'd given us more of a blank slate, that's all. And when I say it needs modding, I'm referring to an alternate start mod which I think will be an excellent addition to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I also wish for a very blank slate, but still, one needs to be creative with what one has, that what RP came from in the first place after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraelin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 For the non-USA ones here, you have to understand that a LOT of people in the USA train at the range to use a gun, or go hunting. Some have been trained since childhood, pretty much like a medieval knight would. And yes, that actually includes quite a few women. Maybe not as many as the men, but there's a LOT of them. Having an American female character that can shoot a frikken rifle is really nothing special. Also, even in Europe, you can join a club, you know? Having been in the army is not the alpha and omega. My brother never served in the army for example, but he can aim better than I can, even though I'm technically a reserve sergeant. I can shoot an assault rifle reasonably well, but I'm not particularly elite with pistols, because we didn't train all THAT much with those. Meanwhile he trained with compressed air guns in high school, and now he's been in his curent club for like over a decade. He can shoot high caliber handguns with incredible accuracy, while I'll freely admit that my lack of practice would make me struggle with the recoil on his .44 magnum for example. Actually, let me amend that: having been in the army DOES give you some skills that are more valuable in a battle than pinpoint accuracy, unless you're the designated marksman. Group tactics and combined arms tactics will win the day any time against a militia of super-marksmen without military training. Even if you can only shoot vaguely in their general direction, you can still lay suppression fire to pin and flank, or just pin while you bring the big guns to do the kill. Most infantry action isn't about nailing the other guy in the head in the fraction of a second when he pokes his head out from cover, but to keep him with his head down while your big guns (at the very least the mortars) zero in on his position. BUT none of that is actually represented in the game. You can't take a whole combined arms squad with you, with designated marksman, light machinegunner, missile launcher, etc, nor train them to do that role. Nor does it really work. You can't pin an enemy entirely until your Castle artillery nukes them. So in the end, if I had a choice in this setting, I'd rather be my brother than me. Even though he never had any actual military training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 For the non-USA ones here, you have to understand that a LOT of people in the USA train at the range to use a gun, or go hunting. Some have been trained since childhood, pretty much like a medieval knight would. And yes, that actually includes quite a few women. Maybe not as many as the men, but there's a LOT of them. Having an American female character that can shoot a frikken rifle is really nothing special. Also, even in Europe, you can join a club, you know? Having been in the army is not the alpha and omega. Let not forget that most firearms are freakishly easy to use, and not all that hard to master by the common jane and joe.Want you pc to train? Use items in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraelin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Well, indeed. You just need practice if you want to hit something. Melee weapons would realistically need a lot more instruction to use than any gun, but there seem to be a LOT of gals into H.E.M.A. these days, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if a woman could pwn me with a longsword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombro Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Well, indeed. You just need practice if you want to hit something. Melee weapons would realistically need a lot more instruction to use than any gun, but there seem to be a LOT of gals into H.E.M.A. these days, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if a woman could pwn me with a longsword.The hell is HEMA? No need for proper fencing skills 40% of the time. Tools like baseball bats, golf rods and anything that was made to hit something and send and it flying can be a deadly weapon since it was made to have a lot of force, even if used by a someone with weak arms, it can still deal some damage. But it I think it odd for someone to go melee in the wastes while the recipe of pipe firearms seems like well a shared bits of knowledge anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athanasa Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Mirelurk hatchlings can damage me through my power armor. What is this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraelin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 HEMA = Historical European Martial Arts. The kind of folks that learn how to fence with, well, just about anything that was described in some manual or another. Whether it's with a cutlass like ye olde Royal Navy in the 19'th century, or partying with a longsword like it's 1499. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcdenton2012 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 You know... all we really know about Nora for certain is that she has a law degree. It is also possible that she could have been Army Reserve, and the relationship with Nate could have proceeded her military career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalEvilD Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I didn't mean to sound like I was looking at this from a sexist viewpoint. I'm just saying nowhere does it state that she has any military background whatsoever. Obviously women are/were in active duty and used power armor, as there have been plenty of chicks in power armor in previous games. I don't remember seeing fowls in power armour in previous games, although that would be a hilarious mod. Geese in t45. Turkeys in t60. It could work. :tongue: Anyway, it needs modding. I don't understand why they didn't just give the female protagonist the same background as the male one. It would have made their dialogue writing more coherent, easier and believable for starters. Make them both ex-soldiers who had gone a bit soft as civilians. That way you could RP them in whatever direction you wanted. Sarah Lyons is the obvious one, but even the patrols that roamed around in FO3 had females in armor. Lol at the fowl comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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