Im just amazed how such a horrible piece of sh*t game can be so good? :D

[stormfrog]

Seriously...

 

Bethesda has been alot of things. But good at what they are doin? Never, not ever have they released anything even similar to healthy clean code and good software. Still, Ive played countless hours of Morrowwind, Oblivion and Skyrim and to be honest I dont really know why.

 

I dont know if that makes me an idiot or what?

 

Anyone else ever got that feeling about Skyrim?

 

 

I mean, Vanilla Skyrim... even when it was released itwas ugly. It was grand in its own unique way but completely without finesse. The game was released broken, CTDs, combat system is so bad its embarassing... it took months before the community had fixed the unshapely mess of Skyrim to a playable experience. Yet... I continue playing it and enjoying it and I have no real idea why :D

 

 

[Moksha8088]

The modding community is full of miracle workers. Bethesda added 85% of the magic to bring the body to life and modders gave it sentience.

[CaptainPatch]

My first inclination was to call "Troll!" But I'll give you a serious answer anyway.

 

You can't have Good without Bad to compare it to. You can't properly appreciate Beauty unless you have something Ugly to compare it to. So, if Skyrim is so Horrible, what is the Fantastic that you are comparing it with?

 

If ANY game is of a genre that you don't enjoy, that utilizes mechanics that disagree with you, that is, simply put, "not your cup of tea", it will be next to impossible to see Beauty in it anywhere, for you. Given 22+ million sales, I doubt that the majority of owners had to have their arms twisted to buy it. So who is more correct on this subject? You? Or them? All? None?

 

When you stop to think about it, do you find fault with every game? Taking note of the kinds of flaws that for the life of you, you can't see how they ever got past the company's QA? If that's the case, perhaps you're a "The glass is half-empty" kind of person, focusing more on what there is to dislike instead of just leaning back and appreciating whatever enjoyable aspects that are present.

[ambria]

I was not overly impressed with Skyrim and wouldn't be playing it without mods

It was my first BETH game and the only game I'd ever played that would CTD. I couldn't get my head around CTD's and why a game would do that or be released in a state where that can happen.

Before Skyrim I mostly played Blizzard games, SC2, Diablo, WoW and never crashed on any of their games, ever

Despite them even being online games

I could be a in a raid group with 40 people fighting a huge dragon on WoW and have smooth gameplay

Then CTD on Skyrim because I took off my hat

 

I understand a little better today about how and why it happens.

Coupled with mods actually making the game more stable than vanilla ever was.

But it's still the most infuriating aspect of the game for me.

 

As to why I keep playing it

The sense of freedom, and customisation

Something MMO's sourly lack

And I love making the world around me reflect my own personal tastes.

Edited February 19, 2016 by ambria

[CaptainPatch]

I was not overly impressed with Skyrim and wouldn't be playing it without mods

It was my first BETH game and the only game I'd ever played that would CTD. I couldn't get my head around CTD's and why a game would do that or be released in a state where that can happen.

Before Skyrim I mostly played Blizzard games, SC2, Diablo, WoW and never crashed on any of their games, ever

Despite them even being online games

I could be a in a raid group with 40 people fighting a huge dragon on WoW and have smooth gameplay

Then CTD on Skyrim because I took off my hat

 

I understand a little better today about how and why it happens.

Coupled with mods actually making the game more stable than vanilla ever was.

But it's still the most infuriating aspect of the game for me.

Interesting. I never had any CTD problems with vanilla Skyrim. Mainly because my rig was pretty decent for 2011-2012. It wasn't until I started to add mods that I began to have CTDs. Spent a lot of hours identifying and eliminating mod conflicts. Meanwhile, I did start to experience CTDs with other games, notably with Galactic Civilizations III. Turned out that as good as my rig was in 2012, it wasn't nearly powerful enough for 2015. It turns out that one of the primary problems was that while I had installed LOTS of RAM, my Windows 7 version wouldn't actually access any more than less than half of that RAM. I had to upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate before I actually used all the RAM. And then -- surprise! -- fewer CTDs. All of my hardware related problems didn't clear up until I did a major PC overhaul to 2015 specs. Thereafter, pretty much all my problems in-game stemmed from mod complications. (This holds true for problems I am encountering in FO4 currently.)

[BlackerrR]

When I first played vanilla Skyrim, I remembered the first time I played Oblivion (Legendary Edition). I was amased, happy like a child, e.g. main quest is better, I mean Oblivion Gates...f**k yeah, Saen Bean, Battle for Bruma, also factions are better, even DLCs (KotN, Shivering Isles) and more. I guess that after Oblivion I expected something incredible.

 

I think that calling it "a horrible piece of s**t" is an overstatment, however after buying it I felt a little bit cheated because of my much higher expetations. Things like combat, too many useless and unimaginative perks, even hole skills, NPCs seems to be randomly generated without any motivation to give them some deeper purpose, realy caught my eye. But Bethesda gave us shouts, dragons, more quests, civil war (ofcourse they could have done it better), dual wielding, don't forget butterflies too :) After playing Skyrim some more, I learned to love it, even with its' crashes, freezes, stuttering, but now I couldn't imagine playing without mods.

Skyrim is the best game I have played so far and I will keep playing, and Oblivion is not far behind but I'm missing it every day.

[CaptainPatch]

As an empirical comparison, I played Oblivion for a few hundred hours and then never returned to it. In contrast, I've played Skyrim for over 3500 hours and it's still my fallback game between other latest-and-greatest games. (For example, at the moment I am focused on FO4, but when I finally wrap that up, I will most likely be back in Skyrim again.)

[Lachdonin]

I always chuckle when people complain about graphics, physics glitches and CTDs. Maybe its because of when I started gaming, or maybe I just have a tolerance, but I just think back to the 90s when a game would literally shut down if you did something unexpected, and graphics were measured in pixels instead of polygons, and Physics were in your imagination. People love to tout Dark Souls as a good, old fashioned, unforgiving game, but Bethesda's quirks and glitches are far more old-school than any difficult curve.

 

I've only ever found one Bethesda game to be bad. And I started with Daggerfall, which was known for imploding and corrupting saves on a whim. Tha one game was Oblivion, not because it was MADE poorly, but because the decisions that went into its design were... Frankly, garbage. It took Shivering Isles (which I had to call customer support to get working, because the DRM on it refused to recognise my authentic copy) and some extensive nodding to even get past 100 hours on it.

 

Bethesda doesn't exemplify any particular aspect of their games. They don't have the best combat, or the best magic, or the best conversation, exploration, interaction, customization graphics, stability etc etc. What they DO is offer a wide array of tolerable executions that come together to make something great. Something you simply cannot get anywhere else.

 

To PROPERLY quite an old addage... Jack of all trades, master of none, but oftentimes better than master of one.

 

That's what Bethesda does with its games. It offers enough of basically everything, even if there are other games which do individual things better.

[Boombro]

I always chuckle when people complain about graphics, physics glitches and CTDs. Maybe its because of when I started gaming, or maybe I just have a tolerance, but I just think back to the 90s when a game would literally shut down if you did something unexpected, and graphics were measured in pixels instead of polygons, and Physics were in your imagination. People love to tout Dark Souls as a good, old fashioned, unforgiving game, but Bethesda's quirks and glitches are far more old-school than any difficult curve.

 

 

Lol. I recall the days when keep I my gameboy open because losing my Pokemon save was biggest fear when I was eight. Once it lost power and I had an heart attack.

 

My saves would delete themselves, my PSX discs sometimes stop working, and when you finally buy an oddly cheap disc and turns out it was another game. Ohh, fun times.

 

And I have to agree, I have gamed for so long and oblivion was one of the most broken games of all time. Iove the quests though.

[Terra Nova]

I was not overly impressed with Skyrim and wouldn't be playing it without mods

It was my first BETH game and the only game I'd ever played that would CTD.

Yall wanna tell her about how The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion goes down in history as the all time video game career leader in CTDs or should I?