Male or Female PC? How come?

[Signette]

 

 

I still prefer having male main character, but I can't completely identify myself with him, unlike games like TES, modern FO and others with first person view, weak RPG element, poor story and huge surivival/combat focus. I see your point about "book writing" perception of this, but considering last two points in my list, it must be real hard...

Yes, playing in a party removes the focus from the actual player character, but the relation between the player character and the party members and the main decisions are always created by your character, so i wouldn't say there is no individual immersion.

Heh, it's not totally like that... Divinity Original Sin comes to mind, it's cRPG with interesting concept, you have to create two characters where both are in main role, you can even make somewhat schizophrenic thing like argue with yourself in dialogues through both characters (which I actually enjoyed, lol). Also as an example, in Wasteland 2 you can create 4 character party where non has obvious main role (you can also recruit +2 independent NPCs), so I made them up as some kind of a family, long story short - it was very curious experience. So there are many interesting concepts to discover.

 

And um, supersexy porn dolls in bloody battle? That's new...

[hagyjalbeken]

 

Heh, it's not totally like that... Divinity Original Sin comes to mind, it's cRPG with interesting concept, you have to create two characters where both are in main role, you can even make somewhat schizophrenic thing like argue with yourself in dialogues through both characters (which I actually enjoyed, lol). Also as an example, in Wasteland 2 you can create 4 character party where non has obvious main role (you can also recruit +2 independent NPCs), so I made them up as some kind of a family, long story short - it was very curious experience. So there are many interesting concepts to discover.

 

And um, supersexy porn dolls in bloody battle? That's new...

 

It is obvious that i know a lot less games than you, but i am sure that most rpgs have only one character that is fully controlled by the player and even though through your actions you can change their personality, sometimes even take their role for a while as a part of the story, but they are technically only npcs. What you described seems pretty unique, at least with mainsteam non-japanese rpg games, but very interesting concept though, and i hope i'll have time to try something like that. At least it seems i can finally play as both male and female at once or try more rpg playstyles at once (one char as my own heroic version and some other as the "bookwriting" character:) )

 

Well, the other popular mods besides sexy anime dolls are weapon mods, so...

[PeterMartyr]

This is guarantee, i be playing as a female in Cyberpunk 2077

[motarx]

I like to vary, whatever seems to be the more amusing or novel experience at the time. I'm stuck 100% in a certain boring role in real life, games get to explore other sides.

[Signette]

 

 

Heh, it's not totally like that... Divinity Original Sin comes to mind, it's cRPG with interesting concept, you have to create two characters where both are in main role, you can even make somewhat schizophrenic thing like argue with yourself in dialogues through both characters (which I actually enjoyed, lol). Also as an example, in Wasteland 2 you can create 4 character party where non has obvious main role (you can also recruit +2 independent NPCs), so I made them up as some kind of a family, long story short - it was very curious experience. So there are many interesting concepts to discover.

 

And um, supersexy porn dolls in bloody battle? That's new...

 

It is obvious that i know a lot less games than you, but i am sure that most rpgs have only one character that is fully controlled by the player and even though through your actions you can change their personality, sometimes even take their role for a while as a part of the story, but they are technically only npcs. What you described seems pretty unique, at least with mainsteam non-japanese rpg games, but very interesting concept though, and i hope i'll have time to try something like that. At least it seems i can finally play as both male and female at once or try more rpg playstyles at once (one char as my own heroic version and some other as the "bookwriting" character:) )

 

Well, the other popular mods besides sexy anime dolls are weapon mods, so...

 

As far as I remember (it was very long time ago) in Icewind Dale (another cRPG) you could also create multiple character party from the start, it even went ridiculous way, as you could create dudes and gals on the go lol. As most ancient RPGs were mainly party based, those deviations in new ones I listed above are just good old tricks. :wink:

 

And nope, had no idea weapon mods hold second place, wow!

 

P.S. When someone says "japanese RPG" I cringe hard... :pinch:

 

 

This is guarantee, i be playing as a female in Cyberpunk 2077

I really-really hope they won't go Witcher way and will let us choose gender this time...

[VDracul]

Female character whenever the game gives the opportunity. Why? Because I feel women have been left out as main /playable characters for far too long before someone gave an opportunity to switch sexes (I think TES4: Oblivion was my first game which added this possibility)...

Awesome! I'm a male, and definitely agree with you on that.

 

I usually play as male, but also play as female once in a while. And no, I don't go for hot sexy females. I like them to look as natural as they can be, and I don't like to give them the "vulnerable" role that is most of the times given to females. I like them strong and bold, the type of woman that a bandit attacks thinking she's an easy target and finds out how mistaken he was when she turns around and sinks her sword into his chest, with the blade coming out of his back, or splits his head in 2 with a battleaxe. I like that type of chick to not be trifled with, but the reason I don't play female characters as much is because of the damn armors they get that barely would protect them if it were a real life scenario. Until I know how to create a mod to give them real armor, I won't be playing them as often.

[VDracul]

Usually both if available but veer towards female, because a kick-ass woman is just 'cool!', and I am male so suppose it's one of the few oppurtunities one gets to be that immersive as being someone else. I also like to play as other 'races' as I don't know exactly how I feel inside anyway despite light apparently portraying me as 'white' (or rather beige...). In fact I love playing as aliens, animals, or cyborgs given the chance!

 

I have tried to make a character that 'looks' like me... but that does feel a bit weird in my opinion. Like watching yourself on home movies or listening to yourself on the phone. Ughh!!

One thing is not being "politically correct" and another different one is being a total jerk. Everything in life changes, that includes games, so deal with it.

[VDracul]

 

 

I didn't say it was anyones fault. But if i have to blame anyone, it is business. Most peolple who play a lot of games and spend a tons of money on them, are young males, so they are the main audience. It backfires though because it alienates a lot of possible female players, but gaming business is like hollywood, they are too afraid to try new things and losing buyers because of that (i think they wouldn't but that is another topic). It is kinda annoying when i play a game and they show female bottoms and boobies into my face every 10 seconds, it makes me feel like i dont belong there. However, in Skyrim f.e. there is no skimpiness (by default), and the gameplay is basically the same for both genders, still feels like it fits for a male better.

 

That's one way to look at it, but to take another perspective - female audience is generally MUCH less interested in gaming than male one. There may be few reasons which will remain a mystery and probably too individual to break down like that, so I'm not really sure it's all business. If fem audience would show more interest and be more active, industry would respond, no doubt. It may sound a bit biassed, but girls mostly play: SIMS, Mass Effect/Dragon Age, sometimes TES/FO, some MMOs and mobile games mostly, which pretty much forms the main basis, when males didvide in LOTS of different categories, spread out and covering alomost full market demand.

 

And considering one-eyed wrinkled grumpy males, well, it definitely may be hot for someone, right? :wink:

 

True, there are more male gamers than female, but definitely more female gamers than, say, a decade ago. Despite of being a guy myself, I do agree with female gamers who complain about the objectification and sexualization of women in games. Main reason is because I see women just as human and with same dignity as myself, but also, I prefer them to look natural/average and with clothes/armor that are not so over-revealing. A bit revealing is fine, but I think what I see most of the time is a bit too much. Not talking about dressing them from head to toe like if they are wearing a nun's robe or a burka, just actual clothing, LOL. That's one reason why one of my goals is to learn to make my own clothing/armor mods to my taste. Long way to go, though, I'm still just a newbie at it

[VDracul]

 

 

Mass effect for example, yes, a lot of females like it (including me). Still, the first part was clearly not intended for females, just look at the romance options. Two girls for males, one boring poorly written guy and a chick for females. And no one try to make me believe that asari are both male and female and thus acceptable for female players too. They have boobs, dammit. The whole race was made for male fanservice. Im not screaming sexism, it is simply very unfair and makes me feel that i don't belong there. It got a bit better with the other two parts, when they figured out that still a lot of females play the game.

 

 

However, i think it is a vicious circle. Games are made for men because females don't play, and they don't play because games are made for men.

And yes, there are genres that females won't be interested in, ever (including me). Like sport games, games about world war and tanks and stuff, and brainless shooters. However, adventure games rpgs and fpses with interesting storyline could have a lot bigger female audience if the creators were more open-minded towards them. Imho.

 

About my males, when i first uploaded an armor mod for fallout nv with him posig for it, i even apologized by jokingly telling that my armor won't make other users male character ugly. But after some more armor mods it seems that some users are more interested in the character than the actual mod, and i'm like WTF he's supposed to be creepy. He was even called a "cutie" once. :D

 

I don't get it to be honest... Why females aren't interested in certain genres, which are most likely rather neutral towards gender and has incredibly interesting gameplay, let's say Total War or Civilization strategy series, it doesn't anyhow directed towards males, you are ruler of civilization or some nation, there have been numerous women who led great countries, why it may not be interesting for many of you? Same can go, for example, about racing sims and probably arcades too, I swear, there are more women behind a wheel in the streets than men nowadays, and driver's concept is neutral at it's core, it doesn't display square jaw or scream "Ima man!" while driving, right? But it seems like ratio of males to females for these types of games would be like 100:1 at best, which is terrifing. Seriously, we are not that different, it feels like fem audience not playing these games because they think it not for them or some other stereotypical bs... Sad. I never even heard any opinions about what types of games would please specific fem audience, so I suspect those should be the same as for male pop, cause let's face it, SIMS, ME and etc is still has more players guys than girls... Awkward =/

Part of it is cultural bs that girls are indoctrinated with since childhood. Like a girl I was talking to recently, about 7 years old, she was talking about what she wants to do when she grows up (don't remember what was she said she wants to be, but it was a profession mostly male dominated) and I told her "Listen, you never ever stop doing what you want just because you are a girl. You always do what you want no matter what." So yeah, still in 2016 girls are being indoctrinated with stupid bs gender roles, so imo, that's a big reason why girls seem not to be interested in war or racing games. So yeah, not only awkward, but rather sad and unfair.

[sunshinenbrick]

 

Usually both if available but veer towards female, because a kick-ass woman is just 'cool!', and I am male so suppose it's one of the few oppurtunities one gets to be that immersive as being someone else. I also like to play as other 'races' as I don't know exactly how I feel inside anyway despite light apparently portraying me as 'white' (or rather beige...). In fact I love playing as aliens, animals, or cyborgs given the chance!

 

I have tried to make a character that 'looks' like me... but that does feel a bit weird in my opinion. Like watching yourself on home movies or listening to yourself on the phone. Ughh!!

One thing is not being "politically correct" and another different one is being a total jerk. Everything in life changes, that includes games, so deal with it.

I'm sorry, but what is the problem??

 

EDIT: Further apologies, but I *think* I know what you are pointing to... (I think...) I am very happy for things to move forward, and that is actually kind of what I was trying to say in my original post... but yeah I guess it can be taken differently. Again, sorry to offend if I did, but was not my intention.