popcorn71 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I can see a slight potential issue from the top of the Arena box art. I'd call it a stretch, but then we don't actually know what Zenimax is on about. Perhaps it has nothing to do with the mainstream titles and is instead related to the offshoots like Redguard, Battlespire, or the mobile games?Either way I wish Zenimax would just come out and make a statement on this. Now that this is in the public arena keeping quiet does them more harm that good. Even if they demolish Mojang in court, it doesn't do them any good if the end up driving away their costumers. You can't support a large company like Zenimax with just the hard core fans. Still it probably would be a good idea for Mojang to change the name of their game to something more unique. Simply calling the game Scrolls is just asking for trouble in the future. Anyway here is a link to Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages. They have move information on all the Elder Scrolls games including the mobile games. I think Bethesda learned something from the "Edge" guy. That is self defense.Then they should learn self defense from someone else. From what I understand Langdell sends threatening letters to his victims demanding compensation for supposed trademark infringements but usually gets himself ripped apart if they actually take in to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) In other words, they won. Had Lindows not settled, it would have gone to court and dragged on for years. That's not what I am reading. http://www.silicon.com/technology/software/2004/02/11/lindows-wins-in-us-court-microsoft-ruling-39118328/ All claims were eventually rejected. Several times. M$ just kept on taking up law suits against them. They probably offered that settlement because in the final case between them the Judge actually called into question M$ actual claim on their own trademark... If they won. Then M$ wouldn't have had to pay a dime. It appears the US courts just weren't going the way in their favour. Edited August 24, 2011 by Ghogiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecallred Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Heh, the picture they released looks like Dog City Denver :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlarthirSeptim Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Wait... Scrolls is just a word... It's like Bioware suing someone for using the name Dragon in their game O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stars2heaven Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) This isn't about owning a word. It's about protecting a trademark. If some of you would read and pay attention to the argument being made in the small portion in the OP you might realize it. If you owned a successful corporation you wouldn't want someone potentially leaching off of your success either (or even trademark part of your own title just to turn around and sue you for it, as was pointed out already). Personally, I'd like to read the rest of it before I come to any major opinion on the matter, but I can see the point none-the-less. That said, I don't think the elderscrolls name is in any sort of danger from even a game with a name that is more similar than just "Scrolls". I don't know how many people I've met who, when asked about the elderscrolls, had no idea what I was talking about. Mention Oblivion or Skyrim,though, and it's a different story. I doubt a counter argument like that would hold much weight in a court though. Edited October 12, 2011 by stars2heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtHallMonitor Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 @stars Good to see someone has a voice of reason. The problem with most people is they don't know any facts except what Notch has tweeted (if even). Most see the over simplified fabrication of what is actually going on. It isn't big successful developers picking on little poor indie Notch. Lawsuits like this happen every single day. A smaller (or larger) sees a company that would be profitable to mooch off of or put under. Even if this isn't what Notch wants or plans, Zenimax/Bethesda Sofworks cannot know that, or take that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dythim Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 An update on the Scrolls case. Mojang wins interim injunction battle, can keep using 'Scrolls' name for nowAs ZeniMax and Mojang begin their back alley knife fight, it seems that Notch and Co. has drawn first blood. The indie studio won the right to continue to use the "Scrolls" name -- which Bethesda claims infringes on its Elder Scrolls copyright -- until the case goes to trial. The decision, as Notch pointed out in his Twitter feed, can still be appealed by Bethesda parent company ZeniMax. Markus Persson (Notch):We won the interim injunction! We can keep using the name "Scrolls". ZeniMax/Bethesda can still appeal the ruling' date=' but I'm very happy. :D[/quote']I am very happy. :) We never meant to infringe on anything bethesda does' date=' and this means we didn't. :D I love those guys[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark0ne Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I never really liked Notch much, mainly because I have a distinct prejudice against people wearing stupid hats and thinking it's cool (I have a house mate of similar disposition), but this case has compounded that thinking. He runs his mouth off more than I do. And that's saying a lot. I'm also aware of the irony of the fact I'm now running my mouth off. I hate myself. Minecraft, great game. Notch, not so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrown Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 In my personal opinion, the game scrolls resembles TES more than what you guys think. After searching for "Mojang Scrolls" A few of the images do in fact resemble TES quite a bit. But I don't think it's something serious after to threaten legal action. They could've just asked him instead of pissing him, and the people who support him, off. Edit: Found this thread, which everyone might find useful. http://www.qj.net/pov/pc-gaming/pov-zenimax-vs-mojang-the-plot-thickens.html They are basically saying if they let someone use the name Scrolls, then what will happen after that? It will be landslide of them losing their trademark territory. It's very much so like a war, you have to defend your territory or risk having it taken. By letting Mojang use the name scrolls, it would open other companies to using "Scrolls" in their game names, which WOULD lead to confusion and deceit between the games. I don't think it's too much to ask for Notch to change the name of his game, considering he says he respects and likes Bethesda/Zenimax so much. /wall of text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 They are basically saying if they let someone use the name Scrolls, then what will happen after that? It will be landslide of them losing their trademark territory. It's very much so like a war, you have to defend your territory or risk having it taken.Exactly. Trademark law is a nasty business where you have to actively defend it or lose it entirely. It's not like copyright where you can blissfully ignore most issues and still sue down the road if someone steps over the line. There is of course a risk in suing and losing, but that's just how the game is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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