Chancellour Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 With something like this idea (which I completely love), I believe we need to be realistic about the expectations in order to see any kind of timely delivery of a mod. What about this as an alternative to get the playable dragon ground work started without needing to implement a full quest/story line for dragons? -You are a Dragon-born that somehow learns the ability to transform into a dragon (this way, normal quests/story can be used). -Pre-built dragon models are used.-Your dragon form has no special abilities aside from what is already built into the game. (Could enhance stats, breath fire/ice/whatever, fly, etc.) You'd be able to fly around and explore/terrorize the lands (outside of cities), but also transform back into humanoid form. However, here could be the kicker to give it at least some kind of "story". -If someone from a particular region of the world sees you transforming into a dragon, or vice versa, they notify their city and you (even in human form) are treated with hostility similar to a Stage 4 vampire. Aside from refining the dragon mechanics and playability, this doesn't seem OVERLY ambitious and could provide a fantastic framework for more fully implementing playable dragons into Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaktus Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Yes, those are some very good ideas Chancellour. A basic, fully-functioning default Dragon (With abilities to fly and use the several attacks they use) is what I'm trying to get made for now. The very first stage of this mod will probably be plain and simple, as in you activate the file, when you start the game your a Dragon. When you deactivate the file, you're Human. Plain and simple character swap. Afterwards, once we know all of this is possible and working, we can think up several versions of story lines for lovers of lore. Also, you should add my support banner to your signature by pasting the code I wrote in the last page. This way you can help gather support and the likeliness of this mod becoming reality by simple foruming. Edited November 18, 2011 by Vaktus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDragonEpmperor Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) With something like this idea (which I completely love), I believe we need to be realistic about the expectations in order to see any kind of timely delivery of a mod. What about this as an alternative to get the playable dragon ground work started without needing to implement a full quest/story line for dragons? -You are a Dragon-born that somehow learns the ability to transform into a dragon (this way, normal quests/story can be used). -Pre-built dragon models are used.-Your dragon form has no special abilities aside from what is already built into the game. (Could enhance stats, breath fire/ice/whatever, fly, etc.) You'd be able to fly around and explore/terrorize the lands (outside of cities), but also transform back into humanoid form. However, here could be the kicker to give it at least some kind of "story". -If someone from a particular region of the world sees you transforming into a dragon, or vice versa, they notify their city and you (even in human form) are treated with hostility similar to a Stage 4 vampire. Aside from refining the dragon mechanics and playability, this doesn't seem OVERLY ambitious and could provide a fantastic framework for more fully implementing playable dragons into Skyrim. This is a good idea tho the mod and this is allso as a werewolf on oblivion to if sees you transforming to a werewolf or back they notify their city and you (even in human form) are treated with hostility similar to a Stage 4 vampire or a werewolf. Edited November 18, 2011 by Pyrothraxus MoonStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylizar Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Yes, a spell to transform into a dragon until you want to turn back would be perfect. Of course, if the storyline/quest idea is ever considered, I have a few ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoH222 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Well I had a similar idea with the bounty, though I had a questline thought up that would remove that penalty later on in the quest. I even came up with an entire main-quest extension through this mod, complete with voice acting and epic events. Here is the questline from my thread. At a certain point in the main quest, the player would receive a letter sent by someone claiming that they know about the dragonborn's true heritage, and that they can help the player harness their true power if they meet. Heading to the location mentioned in the letter, the player finds out that the one who sent the letter was in fact a dragon. The dragon explains in advance that there is more to being a dragonborn than the legend tells, that he or she can tap into the dragon soul that resides in them. It turns out that the dragons are loosing faith in Alduin, and that some actually didn't swear their loyalty to him upon resurrection. Upon accepting the dragon's offer, this starts a second path in the main quest. Besides unlocking the ability to change into a dragon (as Martin Septim demonstrated in Oblivion, in a different manner), the player would participate in quests to help the dragons who are fighting against Alduin. One such idea was helping to build a stronghold on top of the Throat of the World, possibly. As you see, I haven't fully thought up the whole questline including the reimagined encounters, but I strongly go for the dragon transformation power and lore behind the dragon soul and the transformation. Edited November 19, 2011 by Neo Hikato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedred Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) If we're talking about having story added to this request, I'd still like to see a playable true-born Dragon race implemented by one of the modders out there in this regard. That's kind of the added point of the request, aside from just having a Dragon that you can play as. :\ Yeah sure a spell could be added, allowing the player to transform into a dragon, but it's still focusing on the Dohvakin and not a true-born Dragon. The Dragonborn is only half-dragon. He/She was born that way. Edited November 19, 2011 by Aedred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatepurge Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Well I was screwing around with the console. Turns out there is a bunch of dragon 'races' already in.Lots of things actually come as a race. Even mudcrabs.Unfortunately you can't do much more than walk around as a dragon. I've yet to figure out how to even breathe fire (or get the game not to crash.) However, I have managed to make my character jump via console. So there's that. Many excuses if this already had been stated, I tried skimming over the thread as well as I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedred Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Wow, that's some really awesome info. Ah! The Skyrim Console Commands have been updated in the Skyrim wiki, I think I see what you used Not sure about finding the Race IDs though Edited November 19, 2011 by Aedred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terralventhe Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Wouldn't the most simple and sense-making decision be to add a Word of Power/Shout set for transforming into a dragon? If dragons could take human guise, then obviously they would have done so through their Thu'um. So, in turn, the ability to alter ones form to that of a dragon would also be a Thu'um. Rather than go through some kind of bizarre eccentricities about the Dragonborn being 'dragon in disguise' (Dovahkiin wages battle to destroy the evil forces of Alduin!), or bizarre plots about mysterious stalkers who send you letters about knowing of some vague and non-specific lineage, a Word of Power just straight up sticks to the game's lore and the notion of earning your power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedred Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Wouldn't the most simple and sense-making decision be to add a Word of Power/Shout set for transforming into a dragon? If dragons could take human guise, then obviously they would have done so through their Thu'um. So, in turn, the ability to alter ones form to that of a dragon would also be a Thu'um. Rather than go through some kind of bizarre eccentricities about the Dragonborn being 'dragon in disguise' (Dovahkiin wages battle to destroy the evil forces of Alduin!), or bizarre plots about mysterious stalkers who send you letters about knowing of some vague and non-specific lineage, a Word of Power just straight up sticks to the game's lore and the notion of earning your power. The concepts that I had behind Dragons and transforming comes from Magicka/Magic, not necessarily a shout. Older Dragons in many different lore have been shown to be very powerful in the magic arts, so transforming into a human or other race should be no problem when this is taken into consideration. Alduin managed to raise a whole lot of Dragons from the dead so there's an almost unlimited number of possibilities that a Dragon would have, advantage-wise, over the other races that are playable. :happy: How a Dragon might understand "earning" their power and a lesser race "earning" a dragon's power seems like a vast, almost infinite, difference and I'd just like to have fun with the concept of being a true-born dragon. Again, sure a spell could be added to have the player transform into a dragon, but that's not entirely the point of the request. Edited November 19, 2011 by Aedred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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