The Authoritarian Left

[HeyYou]

The american government isn't any better. Our troops in afghanistan were ordered specifically NOT to interfere with 'local cultural practices', which was basically, the rape of young boys. Seems this is rather popular amongst the 'elite' in Afghanistan...... One solider was disciplined, and discharged, for rescuing a boy from the local CHIEF OF POLICE...... He has since been reinstated after a hue and cry from multiple directions.....

[kvnchrist]

This is getting a little off topic here.

[Deleted1205226User]

Not only completely off topic but very indecent.

[soupdragon1234]

The left in the UK has really nasty element who ape the early Nazi party, they attack political opponents meetings, vandalise their property, assault their members, I may have posted this before but I got this delightful tweet from one of Corbyns supporters http://i.imgur.com/ntQPjzA.png (I won't embed the image because of the language).

 

This is what Nigal Farage had to put up with http://i.imgur.com/LPcXraF.jpg (very strong language), in the end he quit because of threats not only to him but also to his family. Angela Eagle is a Labour MP who decided to run against Corbyn for the leadership of the Labour Party, it didn't take long for a brick to be put through her office window and for the death threats to start.

 

This is the "Momentum" group and like minded individuals on the extreme left, they want nothing to intimidate anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda but its part of general movement of the Left to try and inhibit free speech like throwing words like "Rascism" into any discussion, want to discuss immigration? You'll be railroaded into strawman arguments trying to prove your "rascist" agenda. This kind of hear no, speak no, see no evil approach is why Rotherham happened in the first place. And there are people still in denial over it. :pinch:

[JimboUK]

 

The left in the UK has really nasty element who ape the early Nazi party, they attack political opponents meetings, vandalise their property, assault their members, I may have posted this before but I got this delightful tweet from one of Corbyns supporters http://i.imgur.com/ntQPjzA.png (I won't embed the image because of the language).

 

This is what Nigal Farage had to put up with http://i.imgur.com/LPcXraF.jpg (very strong language), in the end he quit because of threats not only to him but also to his family. Angela Eagle is a Labour MP who decided to run against Corbyn for the leadership of the Labour Party, it didn't take long for a brick to be put through her office window and for the death threats to start.

Is there any way of going after these people? Atleast let their identities become public?

 

 

The police are investigating the actual death threats, as for the rest Twitter is unlikely to cooperate, it's got it's own left wing agenda.

 

 

The left in the UK has really nasty element who ape the early Nazi party, they attack political opponents meetings, vandalise their property, assault their members, I may have posted this before but I got this delightful tweet from one of Corbyns supporters http://i.imgur.com/ntQPjzA.png (I won't embed the image because of the language).

 

This is what Nigal Farage had to put up with http://i.imgur.com/LPcXraF.jpg (very strong language), in the end he quit because of threats not only to him but also to his family. Angela Eagle is a Labour MP who decided to run against Corbyn for the leadership of the Labour Party, it didn't take long for a brick to be put through her office window and for the death threats to start.

 

This is the "Momentum" group and like minded individuals on the extreme left, they want nothing to intimidate anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda but its part of general movement of the Left to try and inhibit free speech like throwing words like "Rascism" into any discussion, want to discuss immigration? You'll be railroaded into strawman arguments trying to prove your "rascist" agenda. This kind of hear no, speak no, see no evil approach is why Rotherham happened in the first place. And there are people still in denial over it. :pinch:

 

 

They're like Militant in the 80's, parasites that have latched onto a major party because they know they'd never get anywhere on their own, this time though the party leader is one of them and the result is likely to be the end of the Labour Party, it will split, the divisions are too deep. As for calling everyone racist it's the left doing what it does best, projecting, where we see people they see colour, gender, sexual orientation and treat the person based on those traits, they are what they accuse others of being, that and shouting "Racist" is their own way of shutting up anyone who has the nerve to hold a different opinion to them.

 

 

[Harbringe]

This is getting a little off topic here.

 

No its not , not at all. Showing how the Gov'ts of Europe are obfuscating the truth to serve a political bent to the detriment of their own people is exactly how authoritarianism begins . Having the Dir of German police services banned because of what he reveals to the German people is authoritarian , having the German girls video banned because she is telling people whats happening is authoritarian and there many Gov'ts across Europe for various reasons are engaging in the same tactics and they mostly if not all are heavily left leaning Gov'ts. What it reminds me of is the soft authoritarianism practiced by the East German Govt through the Stasi , a system of information control of the people to serve a political purpose. Strange I would say that and Merkel is a former East German communist.

 

What people don't understand is that the right is a reactionary force to the excesses of the left , it always has been . If Europeans don't start taking an honest look at what is going on in their societies this is going to go very badly.

 

Or just 3 days prior to the Nice attack , the Dir of French intelligence services states . If there are just a few more Paris style attacks or Colgne style mass rape attacks , then France if not Europe is headed for a civil war.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Harbringe

[sunshinenbrick]

But surely what 'the people' WANT is a more balanced left/right (or to simply be pragmatic and fair), rather than to replace it with the authoritarian right? I don't think we will get that though, because government is authoritarian, it has to be in order to govern.

 

Politics is actually becoming increasingly obscure and irrelevant to the general population, much of it seemingly out of reach. People are lied to and given false choices across the board, from every stripe. As David Cameron said, 'we're all in it together', which I think was as much a warning than any kind of devolution of power.

[HeyYou]

Well, then you run into the whole problem of what the people actually want, vs. what the government thinks the people want, and even what the government thinks the people SHOULD want...... Government pretty much, doesn't have a clue.

[JimboUK]

 

This is getting a little off topic here.

 

No its not , not at all. Showing how the Gov'ts of Europe are obfuscating the truth to serve a political bent to the detriment of their own people is exactly how authoritarianism begins . Having the Dir of German police services banned because of what he reveals to the German people is authoritarian , having the German girls video banned because she is telling people whats happening is authoritarian and there many Gov'ts across Europe for various reasons are engaging in the same tactics and they mostly if not all are heavily left leaning Gov'ts. What it reminds me of is the soft authoritarianism practiced by the East German Govt through the Stasi , a system of information control of the people to serve a political purpose. Strange I would say that and Merkel is a former East German communist.

 

What people don't understand is that the right is a reactionary force to the excesses of the left , it always has been . If Europeans don't start taking an honest look at what is going on in their societies this is going to go very badly.

 

Or just 3 days prior to the Nice attack , the Dir of French intelligence services states . If there are just a few more Paris style attacks or Colgne style mass rape attacks , then France if not Europe is headed for a civil war.

 

 

We've seen with the Arab Spring what can happen when the people turn and French intelligence guy is right, all hell is going to break loose at some point. Many quite understandably think that their country has been invaded and their governments are on the side of the invaders, there will come a point when the people start to take matters into their own hands. European leaders have proved Franklin right, those liberties that have been given up have not brought extra security, in fact quite the opposite.

[RattleAndGrind]

I think the problem is one of perspective.

 

How many governments are there on the planet? Too damned many.

 

How many planets are inhabited by Human Beings? One. Just one.

 

Human Beings are a single animal species, genetics prove it.

 

But we carve up our planet and create governments. Then we complain about them. And we complain about those governments over there too.

 

We carve our animal species into little groups. Then we complain about the other groups which aren't our group.

 

Then we start destroying the little planet. Destroy that bit over there, nobody will notice and doing so doesn't hurt me. Destroy the air just a little today, nobody will notice and doing so doesn't hurt me. Dump that stuff into the river today, nobody will notice and doing so doesn't hurt me.

 

You want to see the problem with governments. Look in the mirror. It is us. Our collective ignorance allows us to destroy ourselves, and allows us to blithely blame everyone and everything else.

 

So adjust you perspective and look at the problems again. Maybe, just maybe ...