PrometheusTS Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Ok since there are so many freqeuentally asked questions about the same stuff that some people figured out befoure or that already faced it woudl be nice to have an organized thread with all the bigs , problems , error types in with the proper solution next .... So far the first simple ones that come to my mind : Exporting from 3dsmax to nif format ( first of follow the tutorial for it with the proper nif plugin settings ) 1 The mesh ingame has some spiky points when animated -------------------- wrong vertex rig skinning , fix it in the skin modifier2 the exporter crashes your 3dsmax when exporting --------------------means you didn't give the BSdismemberment modifier a proper selection 2b the exporter crashes your 3dsmax when exporting and BSdismemberment is fine ----------- there may be some duplicate vertices , try with a weld all vertices at 0 distance or any other system to remove duplicate vertices .3 Freeze ingame when loading the mesh -------------------- probably you may have a doubled mesh file inside the nif4 Instant crash of the game when you loot some replaced item -------------------- check the naiming of the mesh inside the nif5 weird shadowing on the mesh when looking at it ingame on outside -------------------- reduce the amount of bones affected by rigging from 20 to 4 and remove zero vertices with a % less than a 0.something of your choice 6 the morphing isn't working in between phases -------------------- you need to modify the _1 or _0 version to adapt to the _0 or _1 versions without altering anything , deleting polygons or adding more , just move vertices around or rotate but no add or remove 7 the mesh imported in max and reexported with a minor tweak that didn't alter the rig , same for the _0 and _1 but the morphing is messed -------------------- if the meshes are imported from the game and not altered and reexported , you need to make a new polygon by scratch , convert to poly , add the mesh to this and reexport , then make the _0 or the _1 out of this 8 the somuchmonster tool for making the morphed shape results in a messy or not really good looking shrinkage of the mesh I wanted to produce -------------------- use a lattice modifier under the stack of skin and on vertices to produce a new mesh shape 9 There is a big triangle ingame in place of my mesh -------------------- you have forgot to remove some unneded materials in the nif and the game can't sort well the material 10 my mesh is invisible -------------------- check the materials if are correctly allocated in first property the texture and second the alpha property , the texture may need an alpha15 : I have some random transparent faces on my mesh after exporting from 3ds max ----------------- you may have some polygons that are not assigned to a specific type under the dismemberment modifier in 3dsmax . 16 Add how to fix the distortion during use of the weight sliderThere are many ways , the main one is to not alter the vertices number and order, so it is usually suggested to use either the _1 or the _0 you are working on and then morph it on the _0 or the _1 , by morphing you can use different tools , like skinwrap , somuchmonster's plugin , morpher tool , the comform tool of the new 3dsmax 2012 but for me what usually works best is apply a lattice modifier around the vertices with a soft selection and drag the model into position over the other model ... this avoids the mess usually created when morphing tools do flatten parts or just mess them up .... sometimes the imported vanilla models even if edited without changing any vertex can result in a bad morphing , to avoid that create a box turn into a polygon and attach to it the vanilla , then delete the box , now you have a clean polygon model you can work finely on ....well those are some of the most common I have run into and may be could be of help to someone .... This is not a tutorial so if you are not understanding something look for the appropriate tutorial , if you also have some other issues fixes please list so we can add ... if you fid something isn't quite correct please say and we can fix.... Edited January 24, 2013 by PROMETHEUS_ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 good idea. 10a: My mesh is invisible -------------------- if it is only invisible when equiping other items like boots and gloves, it's because the wrong Body Part Partition is assigned to that face selection. 11: Insta crash when equiping my custom armor -------------- Check the Body Part Partition names, if it using something other than ones recognised by the game engine, like the BP_Torso as used in F3, and not something like "32" 12:My meshes normal map doesn't seem to render at all even though it's linked into the correct BSTextureSet slot -------------- In block details for the NiTriShapeData make sure Has Normals is set to Yes. Num UV sets is set to 4097. And then Spells>batch>update tangent space. 13: My mesh is black/really dark. ----------------- Do the above fix, but this is likely to do with your shader type, and the shader flags. If it is using the environment map shader make sure that flag is set, and there is infact an environment map set up in the correct slot. Other wise use the normal shader type. And also the shader flag for SF_Vertex_Color and the mesh does in fact have vertex color.14: I have some random black faces on my mesh after exporting from 3ds max ----------------- The exporter has some issues with exporting Binormals and Tangents, spells>batch>update tangent space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusTS Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 15 : I have some random transparent faces on my mesh after exporting from 3ds max ----------------- you may have some polygons that are not assigned to a specific type under the dismemberment modifier in 3dsmax . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throttlekitty Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Awesome! I know documenting sucks, but info like this is a big help for everyone. Can we get this on a wiki somewhere so it's a bit more visible, readable and permament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusTS Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 would be nice but I am not an admin or moderator ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil101 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Add how to fix the distortion during use of the weight slider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theru Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) the thread is created on wiki Skyrim mod issues Edited February 3, 2012 by theru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusTS Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Add how to fix the distortion during use of the weight sliderThere are many ways , the main one is to not alter the vertices number and order, so it is usually suggested to use either the _1 or the _0 you are working on and then morph it on the _0 or the _1 , by morphing you can use different tools , like skinwrap , somuchmonster's plugin , morpher tool , the comform tool of the new 3dsmax 2012 but for me what usually works best is apply a lattice modifier around the vertices with a soft selection and drag the model into position over the other model ... this avoids the mess usually created when morphing tools do flatten parts or just mess them up .... sometimes the imported vanilla models even if edited without changing any vertex can result in a bad morphing , to avoid that create a box turn into a polygon and attach to it the vanilla , then delete the box , now you have a clean polygon model you can work finely on .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Finally a thread shedding light on those ubiquitous threads "my game is crashing HELLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPP" would be so simpler people did at least basic research instead opening new thread over the same subject or similar issue. This thread should be pinned, let's hope a mod or someone able to do it comes and do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullivanM Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Hi guys, So I have been trying to remove the skirt from the male DragonScale Armor and replace it with pants. Everything works great except I am running into problem #5 where I get strange shadows in game when outside. Here is a pic of what I am talking about. And I don't know enough about rigging for the fix to step 5 to make any sense. I have used the steps on the somuchmonsters.com "How to Get Custom Armor Into Skyrim pt. 2: Weight sliders!" tutorial to get this far, but now I am thoroughly stuck. I am using: 3DSMax 2012 64 Bitwww.joepikop.com's SoMuchMorpher plug-inNifskope 1.1.0-RC5Throttlekitty Nif.xml Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks *Update*Ran the spell "Make All Skin Partitions" with the default settings. The spell made several changes to my file and low and behold it works. Edited February 5, 2012 by sullivanM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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