Redesign Launch - Stage 2 in progress

[pacfish]

In response to post #55297103. #55305533, #55307703 are all replies on the same post.

twowolves80 wrote:

If it's a bad link, screen shots of the link and the button leading you there, along with the link address would help. What were you doing at the time?



Remember, the more detail, the better.

Hmm...that's not a bad gif, actually...*yoink*

Here's another example of good feedback:

Guys, I think you should update the NMM runtime button at the top of the splash page (it still says 0.63.14, not the final version of 0.63.17). That would be helpful so we don't have to dig for 0.63.17. Thanks for the work you do behind the scenes. :)

pacfish wrote: Why isn't this fixed yet?! It's been three and a half hours for a typo that was pointed out. And still during believable working hours!

Sulhir wrote:

100% serious. Everything on the internet is true. Edited November 17, 2017 by pacfish

[kestrelhawk]

To be honest, I'm not crazy about the new design, mostly because it seems more difficult to read for me. The one thing that I truly dislike is the Updates tab. Move your cursor just the wrong way and everything in the list collapses again, so that I am constantly having to re-open it. Opening and having it stay open until the user closes it him/herself, like the old one, is vastly preferable!

[VulpesHilarianus]

 

In response to post #55305648. #55306153 is also a reply to the same post.

 

 

 

VulpesHilarianus wrote:

Did some searching using a couple of different metrics. According to Alexa, SimilarWeb, and Quantcast Nexus Mods had a major traffic decrease when the website redesign launched. Also according to Alexa and Quantcast only 44% of users are switching to the new layout. Many are choosing old.nexusmods.com to use the site. For the Wayback Machine in the months of October and November the most popular saved versions were the old Nexus layout, with less than 1/3 being the new layout. People don't like it. I urge you, please, delay the launch of the redesign until the usability issues are sorted out. The massive amounts of wasted space, lack of contrasts, abhorrent element sizing, and focus on mobile for a PC-centric website are making people uncomfortable and having them avoid the site.

 

EDIT: Also the forums are screwing up and not letting me post the entire comment.

pacfish wrote: I'm one of the 44% that are using the new site and don't like it. But I'm trying to make it better with feedback. I also want to point out that the old site is the default. "nexusmods.com" is the old version and doesn't force the user to switch. There is an annoying button at the top that even the old.nexusmods.com has plastered on it.

 

I don't think they'll release an unfinished product, they don't have a publishing company racing to make a return on the investment... But then there's Fallout 4 which took 5 years and is plagued with bugs, Starcraft 2 which is mostly bug free but has a limited game engine (supporting very small files in comparison to other games) and took 10 years, and HalfLife 3 which according to a Fallout 4 cartoon, is still in development in 2077.

Pretty much all links spread all over the internet lead back to the normal nexusmods domain.

 

Of course the vast majority of people who visit the site will be using that one, and not the rd domain used to preview the new site.

 

 

Of course it defaults to the main site, but the traffic isn't switching to the new site is what I'm saying. At any point you'll get the drop down bar that says "You're using the old version of our site. Click here." and will auto-redirect to the new site from then on if you select it. The fact that people aren't doing that or are manually reverting to the old site shows there are problems.

[twowolves80]

 

In response to post #55297103.

 

 

 

twowolves80 wrote:

If it's a bad link, screen shots of the link and the button leading you there, along with the link address would help. What were you doing at the time?

 

 

Remember, the more detail, the better.

 

Hmm...that's not a bad gif, actually...*yoink*

 

Here's another example of good great feedback:

 

Guys, I think you should update the NMM runtime button at the top of the splash page (it still says 0.63.14, not the final version of 0.63.17). That would be helpful so we don't have to dig for 0.63.17. Thanks for the work you do behind the scenes. :smile:

Why isn't this fixed yet?! It's been three and a half hours for a typo that was pointed out. And still during believable working hours!

 

 

Well, here's a start to fix this with this.

 

Wait, what typo? *ninja edit* There. Am I doing it right?

 

:P

 

[RobRoger]

In response to post #55312878.

VulpesHilarianus wrote:

 

In response to post #55305648. #55306153 is also a reply to the same post.

VulpesHilarianus wrote:

Did some searching using a couple of different metrics. According to Alexa, SimilarWeb, and Quantcast Nexus Mods had a major traffic decrease when the website redesign launched. Also according to Alexa and Quantcast only 44% of users are switching to the new layout. Many are choosing old.nexusmods.com to use the site. For the Wayback Machine in the months of October and November the most popular saved versions were the old Nexus layout, with less than 1/3 being the new layout. People don't like it. I urge you, please, delay the launch of the redesign until the usability issues are sorted out. The massive amounts of wasted space, lack of contrasts, abhorrent element sizing, and focus on mobile for a PC-centric website are making people uncomfortable and having them avoid the site.

EDIT: Also the forums are screwing up and not letting me post the entire comment.

pacfish wrote: I'm one of the 44% that are using the new site and don't like it. But I'm trying to make it better with feedback. I also want to point out that the old site is the default. "nexusmods.com" is the old version and doesn't force the user to switch. There is an annoying button at the top that even the old.nexusmods.com has plastered on it.

I don't think they'll release an unfinished product, they don't have a publishing company racing to make a return on the investment... But then there's Fallout 4 which took 5 years and is plagued with bugs, Starcraft 2 which is mostly bug free but has a limited game engine (supporting very small files in comparison to other games) and took 10 years, and HalfLife 3 which according to a Fallout 4 cartoon, is still in development in 2077.

Pretty much all links spread all over the internet lead back to the normal nexusmods domain.

Of course the vast majority of people who visit the site will be using that one, and not the rd domain used to preview the new site.

 

 

Of course it defaults to the main site, but the traffic isn't switching to the new site is what I'm saying. At any point you'll get the drop down bar that says "You're using the old version of our site. Click here." and will auto-redirect to the new site from then on if you select it. The fact that people aren't doing that or are manually reverting to the old site shows there are problems.

i use the old one simply because i bookmark what i may like and then i choose what to use. When the new site will become permanent the rd. in the link will become www. , forcing me to change all the links if i bookmark from the new one, Dark0ne himself said it, otherwise i d use the latter. Maybe i'm not the only one.

[Aryell]

The new design is beautiful, but it is harder to read!

[RobRoger]

In response to post #55314468.

Aryell wrote: The new design is beautiful, but it is harder to read!

if you mean it s too big, you can just use ctrl and mouse wheel or +\-

[Dark0ne]

In response to post #55305648. #55306153, #55309998 are all replies on the same post.

VulpesHilarianus wrote:

Did some searching using a couple of different metrics. According to Alexa, SimilarWeb, and Quantcast Nexus Mods had a major traffic decrease when the website redesign launched. Also according to Alexa and Quantcast only 44% of users are switching to the new layout. Many are choosing old.nexusmods.com to use the site. For the Wayback Machine in the months of October and November the most popular saved versions were the old Nexus layout, with less than 1/3 being the new layout. People don't like it. I urge you, please, delay the launch of the redesign until the usability issues are sorted out. The massive amounts of wasted space, lack of contrasts, abhorrent element sizing, and focus on mobile for a PC-centric website are making people uncomfortable and having them avoid the site.

EDIT: Also the forums are screwing up and not letting me post the entire comment.

pacfish wrote: I'm one of the 44% that are using the new site and don't like it. But I'm trying to make it better with feedback. I also want to point out that the old site is the default. "nexusmods.com" is the old version and doesn't force the user to switch. There is an annoying button at the top that even the old.nexusmods.com has plastered on it.

I don't think they'll release an unfinished product, they don't have a publishing company racing to make a return on the investment... But then there's Fallout 4 which took 5 years and is plagued with bugs, Starcraft 2 which is mostly bug free but has a limited game engine (supporting very small files in comparison to other games) and took 10 years, and HalfLife 3 which according to a Fallout 4 cartoon, is still in development in 2077.

HomicidalGrouse wrote: Pretty much all links spread all over the internet lead back to the normal nexusmods domain.

Of course the vast majority of people who visit the site will be using that one, and not the rd domain used to preview the new site.

According to Alexa, SimilarWeb, and Quantcast Nexus Mods had a major traffic decrease when the website redesign launched

Uh...? I'm looking at Alexa (which you take with a big pinch of salt as it only tracks people who have installed their toolbar), where there's been a steady decline since January of this year and SimilarWeb (whose tracking code we don't use, so is wildly inaccurate) is showing an uptick in September and October compared to previous months.

Of the three, Quantcast is the only one that tracks accurately and the tracking code for Quantcast isn't tracking the redesign site right now (seriously, check the site source code. No tracking code on rd.nexusmods.com for quantcast). As such, anyone using the redesign is not being tracked on Quantcast, which is a lot of traffic. So yeah, there's going to be a downtick compared to previous months.

Inspite of this, October 2017 still had 18m page views more than October 2016 according to Quantcast, despite declining traffic on the back of Fallout 4 getting older and despite the fact RD isn't being tracked on Quantcast yet.

So when you say "major traffic decrease" I don't know WTF you're talking about, but it renders everything else you're saying as moot when the stats you're basing it off are just plain wrong. Edited November 18, 2017 by Dark0ne

[lasse1001]

In response to post #55312758.

kestrelhawk wrote: To be honest, I'm not crazy about the new design, mostly because it seems more difficult to read for me. The one thing that I truly dislike is the Updates tab. Move your cursor just the wrong way and everything in the list collapses again, so that I am constantly having to re-open it. Opening and having it stay open until the user closes it him/herself, like the old one, is vastly preferable!

Exactly. I'm so tired of all the 'Mouseover' -things on the internet. Don't we like to click on anything nowadays? Also, the default Update list is way too short. At least double it

[kestrelhawk]

In response to post #55312758. #55315588 is also a reply to the same post.

kestrelhawk wrote: To be honest, I'm not crazy about the new design, mostly because it seems more difficult to read for me. The one thing that I truly dislike is the Updates tab. Move your cursor just the wrong way and everything in the list collapses again, so that I am constantly having to re-open it. Opening and having it stay open until the user closes it him/herself, like the old one, is vastly preferable!

lasse1001 wrote: Exactly. I'm so tired of all the 'Mouseover' -things on the internet. Don't we like to click on anything nowadays? Also, the default Update list is way too short. At least double it

I agree with you on that too.