New design constructive feedback

[twowolves80]

Did you even bother reading the previous posts? Or the OP?

[Toutatis]

Pretty much everything has been said but here is an easy hanging fruit: add an "advanced search" button on the main page of a game that leads, in the case of Fo4, to this page: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/search/ I only noticed it after clicking "refine search" which appeared only after a failed search that returned a single result...and the "refine search" function wasn't obvious to find (or even logical to use with only one search result).

 

The current search bar will only search titles and not the description. People sometimes give fantasy names to their mods and right now if you search an expression using the visible search bar it will only return mods that have that that expression in their title (such as curtain for example...the search only return one result https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22485 while there are several other mods that contain curtains such as this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15588/ ).

 

Search description is probably the best search function as it allows us to search more precisely (such as mods containing a certain item - and not just let's say "crafting - home settlement" or doing a certain thing) by keywords in a proper mod description (serious modders are pretty good with descriptions and tagging their mods).

 

As for the loading speed, i take it from the initial post that it is due to testing? Loading a page listing the mods with the pictures can take several minutes (yet downloading them is ok). It's kind of a pain to browse through several pages atm.

[ryoendymon]

I'm making this thread as a central place in which people can provide constructive feedback based on their opinions of the new design and what they personally think can improve it. We've already got a lot of people all making their own individual threads about the new design in this forum (and others), so from now on, lets keep it to this thread.

 

Thank you!

This is the OP the original post, it asks people for their opinions, what they feel can improve it, and "constructive feedback"

 

I am sorry that you don't see reality, but reality is, "I don't like it, go back to the old way" is a legitimate opinion that seems to be widely shared.

 

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Also, imho absolutely NO concessions should be made to the misguided few who want to view the internet on the display of their telephone. None.

 

 

Your entire opinion has been ignored with that one silly sentence. If anyone else feels this way, please don't bother posting here. It's not constructive.

 

And while I am certain you believe in a "silent majority" who is ok with the changes, this above post, from the original poster on page 2 of the thread is very telling about his feelings While the quoted in this quote did give his opinion in a crass, and rude manner, it does not invalidate that this is his opinion. The original poster made a very very dismissive response that many can easily take as a shut up order.

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Edited December 30, 2017 by ryoendymon

[TheVampireDante]

 

I am sorry that you don't see reality, but reality is, "I don't like it, go back to the old way" is a legitimate opinion that seems to be widely shared.

 

It's an opinion that became irrelevant once it was flatly stated that the old design would not be returning.

[Ethreon]

 

 

I am sorry that you don't see reality, but reality is, "I don't like it, go back to the old way" is a legitimate opinion that seems to be widely shared.

 

It's an opinion that became irrelevant once it was flatly stated that the old design would not be returning.

 

 

Widely shared among the people that post here. Do the rest not care, or just not share this opinion?

[rbolitho]

 

 

 

I am sorry that you don't see reality, but reality is, "I don't like it, go back to the old way" is a legitimate opinion that seems to be widely shared.

 

It's an opinion that became irrelevant once it was flatly stated that the old design would not be returning.

 

 

Widely shared among the people that post here. Do the rest not care, or just not share this opinion?

 

 

 

Posting here is work.

 

It takes time and effort to find the thread.

 

It takes even more time and effort to read all 14 thousand posts so as not to arouse the ire of the self appointed cheerleaders and hallway monitors (who seem to be responsible for at least half of the aforementioned 14 thousand posts :huh: ).

 

So if we really want to get at this information, the way to do it is to add a simple 2 point survey to each page on the new site.

 

Q1: Do you like the new design?

This Yes/No radio button type question would eliminate much of the uncertainty regarding the quality and "representativeness" (yes that's a word) of the opinions expressed here in this forum.

 

Q2: Would you like to provide additional feedback to the site admins/owners?

Another Yes/No radio button type question that would lead to a feedback page or mechanism where additional thoughts and clarifications can be recorded if the respondent so desires..

 

Problem solved.

 

That is... if this is actually considered a problem that the site admins/owners want to solve.

 

Yeah...

Edited January 1, 2018 by rbolitho

[twowolves80]

Aww, that's cute. Let's take it line by line, shall we? Then we can make posting fun instead of work.

 

"It takes time and effort to find the work." Really? That's funny, I just go to the search box and find whatever I need in that thread with minimal fuss, using basic search terms. Or are you not familiar with how this works? It also takes effort to mod. Are you one of the people complaining because the modders haven't made it fast enough, or that you don't want to have to sit through a FOMOD?

 

"It takes even more time and effort to read all 14 thousand posts so as not to arouse the ire of the self appointed cheerleaders and hallway monitors (who are actually responsible for at least half of the aforementioned 14 thousand posts!)." That's so cute! How nice that you went ahead and counted all 14,000 posts. For future reference, I usually just stick to the OP, the first page or two, and the last page or two, unless something is specifically referenced.

 

And "self-appointed" cheerleaders and monitors? I see you prefer a more heavy-handed approach. That's fine. Let's all just start flagging and reporting posts that are against ToS--you know, moronic posts bitching about something that has changed and isn't going to change back. Period. As opposed to the more responsible way of handling things--calling out someone on bullshit when you see it.

 

Just like I am doing now.

 

Because Dark0ne doesn't want the information you, and ten thousand other people screaming and whining and not paying attention to what is being said, want. It's that simple. It's his site. You don't like it? Leave. Please. The only reason this controversy exists in the first place is because people were too busy with their heads stuck up their own asses to pay attention to what was being posted under Site News months ago when Dark0ne very specifically outlined what was going to happen, and asked for feedback. No one wanted to chime in. Now all of the sudden, all the whiners come out of the woodwork, demanding that they get special treatment.

 

Guess what? You're not a special snowflake, and you get nothing. The title of this thread is very clear as to what the OP is looking for. Therefore, your post is nothing but noise that should be reported, and as a matter of fact, I am going to report now. Since you want the moderators to handle it so badly, instead of other people on the site telling you to pay attention to what the thread is about, you can be the first.

 

You don't get to demand a forum for a poll to see how many people want to see the site changed. You want to start your own, go for it. But you get to demand nothing, especially as you're not even a premium member, which means you have paid nothing for this free site. Just because you don't like the way things are done doesn't give you the right to infringe on the rights of others by demanding a poll be put up to satisfy your itching ears, in an effort to try to force your opinion upon Dark0ne as a way to manipulate the admins into giving you what you want.

 

That is sheer hypocrisy. "Waaaa! I'm not getting my way! The site is never going back to the old style! Waaa! I demand a poll to generate statistics to try to force the admins to undo all the work they put into the site over the last several months because I'm one of the majority! I know I am! Surely, the majority doesn't want this!"

 

Wrong.

 

You are of the minority, and particularly of the vocal minority who seems to think that the louder they get, the more right they are. Well, I got news for you. You're not right. You are of a minority. And the site is not returning to the original. Period.

 

Now, pay attention to the OP and the title of the thread. If you have nothing good to say that is constructive and tangent directly to improving the NEW site, then move along and keep your opinions to yourself.

 

How is that for cheerleading? Have I earned my sash yet? Did I make hall monitor?

[KnorKater]

Been looking into this thread several times now, but didn't think the fact that I like the new design (and functionality) would add anything of value to the conversation, but yeah, I do like the new design.

 

I don't think just flat out going back to the old design is a good idea, and I suspect that the human tendency to resist changes plays into this to some degree. But on the other hand the wish of what seems like quite a number of users shouldn't be ignored, either. Or let's just say I don't see any benefit for the Nexus in alienating users over a design debate. A compromise could be the implementation of a template system, which would also complement the very nature of this site quite nicely: Let's mod Nexus Mods. At least colors and layout where possible. Just the .css stuff.

 

A temporary solution could be browser plugins that enable you to alter websites on the client site (Greasemonky or something). Someone just has to modify it to look as similar to the old version as possible and provide the info for copy&paste here. If nobody is willing to do this, I can look into it when I'm back at home.

 

Would be nice, tho, if Dark0ne told us if this is allowed or not. Don't wanna earn a ban for altering the layout on the client side.^^

[rbolitho]

How is that for cheerleading? Have I earned my sash yet? Did I make hall monitor?

 

You did indeed!

 

:laugh:

Edited January 1, 2018 by rbolitho

[JimmyRJump]

Well, the reply boxes in the comments have all of a sudden grown more narrow. Was already used to the broader boxes but the narrower ones are a tad easier to read on a 37" screen. And the pitchfork wielding folk standing on the embers of the Old Design have one minor issue to strike off of their list of grumbles.