Syria

[TheMastersSon]

I had written pretty much exactly what Ratboy68 said. The problem is human nature and it's common to everyone, everywhere and at all times. Ben Franklin knew the eventuality of the government he was helping to found because he understood human nature. Representative democracy has proven to be resistant to decay and collapse, ours lasted almost exactly 200 years (1776-1971) before it was permanently sold down the multinational river by our own federal employees. I've always believed and still believe the U.S. form of government, with appropriate campaign restrictions and term limits for all offices, would be the best form of government in human history.

[HeyYou]

I had written pretty much exactly what Ratboy68 said. The problem is human nature and it's common to everyone, everywhere and at all times. Ben Franklin knew the eventuality of the government he was helping to found because he understood human nature. Representative democracy has proven to be resistant to decay and collapse, ours lasted almost exactly 200 years (1776-1971) before it was permanently sold down the multinational river by our own federal employees. I've always believed and still believe the U.S. form of government, with appropriate campaign restrictions and term limits for all offices, would be the best form of government in human history.

Yeah, I think we have covered a fair bit of that before, in other threads..... (especially around election times. :) )

 

"Fixing" the current system wouldn't require all that much change, as you say, term limits, limits on lobbyists, do away with citizens united decision, etc. But, the only people that can actually implement that change, are the very same people we are trying to limit, so, I don't see any chance of any of it coming about. So, we are stuck with the current system, until such time as it implodes, as we all know it must.

[SkyGuy88]

Its the Petro dollar. China is the concern now. They have been putting up bases in the China Sea. They passed legislation to allow current president to remain president after term limits. And worse of all, are making deals for oil outside of the US Dollar. Mind you this last bit is to be considered unsubstantiated, Suddam made similar deals to exchange oil for alternate currency just prior to Operation Irqi Freedom.

[TheMastersSon]

Its the Petro dollar. China is the concern now. They have been putting up bases in the China Sea. They passed legislation to allow current president to remain president after term limits. And worse of all, are making deals for oil outside of the US Dollar. Mind you this last bit is to be considered unsubstantiated, Suddam made similar deals to exchange oil for alternate currency just prior to Operation Irqi Freedom.

Hussein demanded Euros for his country's oil in November 2000. Bad timing, as this was also when GWB was appointed, excuse me I mean elected to his office:

 

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2006/02/ron-paul/why-the-us-hates-iraq-iran-and-venezuela/

 

It's also a known fact that GWB had solicited long-term contract bids on Iraqi oil fields by March 2001, a full two years before he invaded that country. In the interim, a colluded propaganda campaign between Karl Rove and our country's "objective" major media outlets was launched, where we were suddenly treated to nine months of nightly cheerleading for mass murder and the greatest theft of oil control rights in human history.

 

http://www.thenation.com/article/lights-cameras-attack-hollywood-enlists

 

As I've said in other threads, imo it truly is one of the most underreported stories so far this century. Note the article date. When "Countdown to Iraq" and similar propaganda began in early 2002, fewer than 10% of the American people believed Hussein had anything to do with 911 (primarily because he didn't). By the time Bush invaded in March 2003, that same number was over 80%. Mission accomplished, and 300+ million Americans were made, once again, mass murderers by their own employees and on not only specific but exclusive behalf of Big Oil. Iraq has been in utter chaos ever since.

Edited April 25, 2018 by TheMastersSon

[Harbringe]

Its the Petro dollar. China is the concern now. They have been putting up bases in the China Sea. They passed legislation to allow current president to remain president after term limits. And worse of all, are making deals for oil outside of the US Dollar. Mind you this last bit is to be considered unsubstantiated, Suddam made similar deals to exchange oil for alternate currency just prior to Operation Irqi Freedom.

 

No what is happening with China in regard to the petro dollar is much different than the Saddam situation. Saddam just switched from the petrol dollar to the Euro , but he still had to make those exchanges on Western controlled systems , China on the other hand has set up their own exchanges , their own system. That is going to have a much much bigger impact on the US petro dollar than anything Saddam did. In fact its going to have a really big impact on the entire US economy but its going to happen slowly over time.

 

Here's how it works. China has a few trillion worth of assets denominated in US dollars , if they suddenly just dumped the dollar all those assets would lose their value and they would lose horrendous amounts of money. So what they will do is divest themselves of US dollar denominated holding slowly over time on one end and at same time bring on board the oil exporting countries into the petro yuan at the other end. The only loser in this will be the US economy (the entire thing) because eventually countries around the world will come to the conclusion that they don't need to be holding as many US reserves as they currently do and they will begin to dump a certain measure of them back into the US market and Americans will feel this effect in the form of inflation and many of the things they currently can afford to buy from all these countries around the world will become much more expensive.

 

Plain and simple this is a game changer to the Americans position in the world , but it will take years to unfold. Syria is a part of this even if you can't see how.

[TheMastersSon]

The concept of privately held currency is absurd in China, since private ownership rights are unrecognized (along with all other individual rights). Even Henry Kissinger has never been able to buy his dream retirement home in his promised land due to this repression. The free world operates according to one set of rules, the PRC operates according to a fundamentally different set of rules and assumptions. It's true from our forms of government and economies to our business practices, labor and environment standards and 10,000 other standards. Edited April 25, 2018 by TheMastersSon

[HeyYou]

The concept of privately held currency is absurd in China, since private ownership rights are unrecognized (along with all other individual rights). Even Henry Kissinger has never been able to buy his dream retirement home in his promised land due to this repression. The free world operates according to one set of rules, the PRC operates according to a fundamentally different set of rules and assumptions. It's true from our forms of government and economies to our business practices, labor and environment standards and 10,000 other standards.

And our government seems to think it is a good idea to have american workers try and compete against that......

[TheMastersSon]

No, not our authentic government. The federal government that sits in power today has been operating in violation of our Constitution since 1971, and is therefore illegitimate according to this same Constitution. What we've seen since Nixon is a steady, inevitable and inexorable path to collapse. Not a single vote was taken, either in Congress or our states, on whether to expose our free market labor force to forced "competition" with the PRC. Excuse me I mean "China". Polls at the time indicated over 90% of the American people regardless of political party were against the idea, precisely as with the recent abomination from our delusional FCC. It's been almost a half century of relentless smoke and mirrors from the feds, to obfuscate the simple truth that no possibility exists even in theory for free market countries to compete with totalitarian Communism. Freedom ain't free and it's not even cheap, the longer this charade is allowed to continue the worse it will get. It will never, ever get better. It's why our federal government is practically bankrupt and has been for decades. It's also why this same government has now, officially and inevitably decayed into abject and unprecedented fascism. These are the final stages before wholesale collapse. This current end result was not only entirely predictable, no other outcome was ever possible from the start of Nixon's treason. Now even interest rate recovery is impossible in our country without automatic bankruptcy. In other words our federal government has ALREADY COLLAPSED, the only question is whether we as the American people are willing to take our required and proper responsibility for the situation, before this unconstitutional and out of control beast destroys both our country and most of the world.

Edited April 26, 2018 by TheMastersSon

[HeyYou]

No, not our authentic government. The federal government that sits in power today has been operating in violation of our Constitution since 1971, and is therefore illegitimate according to this same Constitution. What we've seen since Nixon is a steady, inevitable and inexorable path to collapse. Not a single vote was taken, either in Congress or our states, on whether to expose our free market labor force to forced "competition" with the PRC. Excuse me I mean "China". Polls at the time indicated over 90% of the American people regardless of political party were against the idea, precisely as with the recent abomination from our delusional FCC. It's been almost a half century of relentless smoke and mirrors from the feds, to obfuscate the simple truth that no possibility exists even in theory for free market countries to compete with totalitarian Communism. Freedom ain't free and it's not even cheap, the longer this charade is allowed to continue the worse it will get. It will never, ever get better. It's why our federal government is practically bankrupt and has been for decades. It's also why this same government has now, officially and inevitably decayed into abject and unprecedented fascism. These are the final stages before wholesale collapse. This current end result was not only entirely predictable, no other outcome was ever possible from the start of Nixon's treason. Now even interest rate recovery is impossible in our country without automatic bankruptcy. In other words our federal government has ALREADY COLLAPSED, the only question is whether we as the American people are willing to take our required and proper responsibility for the situation, before this unconstitutional and out of control beast destroys both our country and most of the world.

If the american people haven't done anything about for almost 50 years, what makes you think they are going to start now?

 

No, nothing is going to change until our government actually does collapse. That will happen when they are so far in debt, they run out of other peoples money to spend, and there is no one left stupid enough to lend them more. Then our economy will come to a crashing halt, likely have a profound affect on the rest of the world as well. Dark Ages 2.0?

[Lisnpuppy]

No, not our authentic government. The federal government that sits in power today has been operating in violation of our Constitution since 1971, and is therefore illegitimate according to this same Constitution. What we've seen since Nixon is a steady, inevitable and inexorable path to collapse. Not a single vote was taken, either in Congress or our states, on whether to expose our free market labor force to forced "competition" with the PRC. Excuse me I mean "China". Polls at the time indicated over 90% of the American people regardless of political party were against the idea, precisely as with the recent abomination from our delusional FCC. It's been almost a half century of relentless smoke and mirrors from the feds, to obfuscate the simple truth that no possibility exists even in theory for free market countries to compete with totalitarian Communism. Freedom ain't free and it's not even cheap, the longer this charade is allowed to continue the worse it will get. It will never, ever get better. It's why our federal government is practically bankrupt and has been for decades. It's also why this same government has now, officially and inevitably decayed into abject and unprecedented fascism. These are the final stages before wholesale collapse. This current end result was not only entirely predictable, no other outcome was ever possible from the start of Nixon's treason. Now even interest rate recovery is impossible in our country without automatic bankruptcy. In other words our federal government has ALREADY COLLAPSED, the only question is whether we as the American people are willing to take our required and proper responsibility for the situation, before this unconstitutional and out of control beast destroys both our country and most of the world.

 

I'm curious as to which articles of the Constitution that the federal government is violating?