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[HeyYou]

Actually I think most TV's these days will act like a dvr ... just need to plug in a USB drive and format it with the TV instructions. This particular TV will do 90 minutes regardless of the drive size.

 

But the problem with watching TV behind live broadcast ... is eventually when fastforwarding commercials ... You catch up.

But ya I know .. that is just one of the many ways to avoid watching commercials. Some times its like I get mad just knowing they exist.

 

And why I say corporations are not people ... therefore cannot have an individuals right to speech. The core of why an individual should be above a business in that respect.

 

What is the reason you think is most important for companies to not be deemed the same as an individual HeyYou ?

It relates back to politics...... and the Citizens United decision. I will believe a corporation is a 'person' shortly after Texas executes one. As they are most certainly NOT 'people', they have no individual rights. They have no free speech, and they should not be donating to politicians. If I had to pick one single thing, that spelled doom for the american way of life, that particular Supreme Court decision would be it. We already had the best government money could buy, that decision simply made it legal.

[Mktavish]

I like that proof of individual being when one gets executed ... but then again , it would have to be the same reason for death penalty ... capitol murder

[HeyYou]

I like that proof of individual being when one gets executed ... but then again , it would have to be the same reason for death penalty ... capitol murder

Oh, there are other crimes that carry the death penalty.... Treason..... for one. (and how many companies have sold technology to our enemies.....) There are also assorted crimes that if caught in the act, the use of deadly force is authorized. (rape, for instance.) How many communities have been raped by corporations.

 

Of course, Union Carbide would have been a PRIME candidate for the death penalty. They wiped out (literally killed) 15000 people in india, thru negligence.

[Mktavish]

Negligence == Manslaughter

 

And Treason would be harder to prove than premeditated murder. Definitely for a business entity. Ive been mully the legal ramifications over and what it takes to convict the individual.

And if business entities are not individuals ... then you could not convict them like such.

 

 

But !!! it would make some interesting pundit legal ramble to discuss publicly how to convict one of Murder.

And they only need murder one individual right ?

[kvnchrist]

 

 

 

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I would point out that EVERY society is living off of what their ancestors built. Assuming that their ancestors built anything at all......

 

Ya and while your at it , you might as well point out that water is wet ... hehe .

 

But am curious what would constitute a society that did not build anything ?

Is it a culture that does not exploit or at least very little ?

 

Because the inverse is what I would constitute as not building anything .

Which is where I think American society is at , always in Exploit mode.

 

I've changed my mind on America splitting into 2 federal entities being a good thing.

At least while I would have to live through the change ... since it would take 10-20ish years of turmoil before we would get a working government for the people out of it. (being the whole reason to do it)

So meh ... let the non voting generation deal with it when they decide just looking at their iphones isn't working anymore.

 

And technology is more what I was talking about ... since there are so many life skills that are getting phased out by it . Plus introducing so many new ways of exploit. (not in a good way)

 

At a guess, I would say that the native americans were not exploitative, and most of them didn't really build anything permanent... (there are exceptions....) That would likely to apply to pretty much any nomadic people as well. And their lifestyle didn't change for thousands of years, and even then, it was because of an outside influence. (spanish introducing horses, europeans taking over the land.....)

 

I'm not a great fan of technological advances as much as I am social progression. Just look at what we do with the tech we have now. We have the internet and look at how many who each day segregate ourselves into our own respective little forums to talk with people who agree with us about those we collectively hate. How much actual thought is needed to regurgitate old prejudices?

 

Are we actually progressing or are we regressing, seeing how many times in the past few years that physical violence has erupted.?

 

How many times have we heard the statement that someone had pissed someone else off when in reality those making these statements let themselves become pissed off. The fact is that no one can make any of us angrey. We let ourselves become angry because of our own assumptions.

 

Admiral Rickover used to interview each candidate for submarine school. One of his tests was "You have 3 seconds to piss me off." This brought about a wide variety of behaviors.... the most effective of which was the guy that immediately grabbed the model submarine on the admirals desk, and promptly smashed it.

 

Needless to say, the admiral was pissed. :D (and the guy got into submarine school.......)

 

So yeah, it is most certainly possible for others actions/words to piss someone off. To deny that, is to deny reality. Humans are emotional animals. There is no getting around that.

 

Sorry, but no. Emotions are feelings and as such can be controlled if control is more important to a person than being controlled. It's all in whats important to you.

 

It's my experience that the less you think of imagery such as being arrogant or placing undue importance on material items the less chance of being effected by others interactions with you.

 

Knowing yourself and loving others in such a way as to endeavor to understand the situation can do wonders at this.

 

Booker T Washington had a very excellent quote " I shall allow no man to belittle my soul by making me hate him."

 

When you are angered, you hate and that's something that can not be gotten around. You either hate what was done or the person doing what was done. Like I said its a value system.

 

 

 

 

Yes, emotions are feelings. And for the most part, they can be controlled. But not 100% of the time. Terribly sorry, but, if you are a human being, and not some variety of sociopath/psychopath, then it is indeed possible for other people to piss you off. In fact, it's rather likely that it will happen to you quite frequently over the course of your life. You may not necessarily REACT, but, it's highly likely various folks have made you angry over the course of your life....

 

And really, hate doesn't enter into it. Many people have pissed me off over the years. I don't hate them, nor do I hate their actions. I get over it. Just like most other folks.

 

 

Wow! Did you find a crowd rallying in the street while you walking your dog today? Did you feel the excitement of your youth surging in your blood and hope to see a fight break out? Which I conclude; from my own experiences how the thrill from the others in the crowd causes a vibrating sensation our bodies experience and does get me so excited.

 

And yet I believe we share that kind of nervous thrill?

 

When we are near the excited mass of people we hope we are able to run; fast enough if we see the battle begin; to either get into the brawl, or run away with the dog and find comfort behind our brick and mortar prison's concrete walls.

 

Do you have a key to your cell or are you the warden of your keep?

 

Sarcasm is a poor excuse for debate. If you have a point then bring it forward and we will discus it. If not then I will revert back to my statement that I am not here to be liked. Nor am I here to waste time respecting the post of someone who obviously disrespects mine.

[Mktavish]

Well here we are ... Trump Acquitted .

But of course it is up to him not to spoil it come election time.

 

And can somebody get the democrat party some Russian tech support for their mishap with their App during the Iowa Caucasus ?

[HeyYou]

Well here we are ... Trump Acquitted .

But of course it is up to him not to spoil it come election time.

 

And can somebody get the democrat party some Russian tech support for their mishap with their App during the Iowa Caucasus ?

Doesn't come as a surprise...... After all, the Senate has a Republican majority. The dems HAD to know this was going to be the final outcome. But, they went ahead anyway, wasted thousands of hours, and millions of dollars, on an investigation, and 'trial' that did absolutely nothing. (aside from wasting time and money. did a FINE job of that.) And now the dems are saying they are going to continue their investigations, even though they have come to essentially nothing.

 

This is partisanship at its worst. And they think this is going to help them get more dems elected??? I hardly think so. I fully expect to see trump win in 2020, and the republicans pick up more seats in the senate, and re-take the house. It's truly sad what our political system has come to...

[Mktavish]

 

 

This is partisanship at its worst. And they think this is going to help them get more dems elected??? I hardly think so. I fully expect to see trump win in 2020, and the republicans pick up more seats in the senate, and re-take the house. It's truly sad what our political system has come to...

 

 

I don't think anybody can really say with seriousness what is going to happen by November this year. But I won't disparage your pipe dream :turned:

[HeyYou]

 

 

 

This is partisanship at its worst. And they think this is going to help them get more dems elected??? I hardly think so. I fully expect to see trump win in 2020, and the republicans pick up more seats in the senate, and re-take the house. It's truly sad what our political system has come to...

 

 

I don't think anybody can really say with seriousness what is going to happen by November this year. But I won't disparage your pipe dream :turned:

 

:D True. It is entirely possible the Repubbies will do something to REALLY piss off the voters, and they may be the ones to get spanked. :)

[modder3434]

 

Well here we are ... Trump Acquitted .

But of course it is up to him not to spoil it come election time.

 

And can somebody get the democrat party some Russian tech support for their mishap with their App during the Iowa Caucasus ?

Doesn't come as a surprise...... After all, the Senate has a Republican majority. The dems HAD to know this was going to be the final outcome. But, they went ahead anyway, wasted thousands of hours, and millions of dollars, on an investigation, and 'trial' that did absolutely nothing. (aside from wasting time and money. did a FINE job of that.) And now the dems are saying they are going to continue their investigations, even though they have come to essentially nothing.

 

This is partisanship at its worst. And they think this is going to help them get more dems elected??? I hardly think so. I fully expect to see trump win in 2020, and the republicans pick up more seats in the senate, and re-take the house. It's truly sad what our political system has come to...

 

 

Trump had the majority in Congress and had a chance. Granted plenty of turncoats with the Republican label were behind that, and exposed their true loyalties, but that has only made the legit double agents more cautious. The system didn't just get corrupt because no one was paying attention, it got corrupted because to underestimate the powers pulling the strings, is folly. We don't have enough people who see behind the curtain, without hubris. All we have in mass are the awakened arrogant (4 more years will cure America!), and those with their eyes wide shut (America is already great, cause of Immigrants and POC, what are you Nazi's going on about?)