Plugins not sorted because of cyclic rules Vortex 0.15.0

[alannordgren]

Hey everyone, I'm modding Skyrim SE. I just updated to 0.15.0 and now I'm getting the "plugins not sorted because of cyclic rules" notification. I'm a little confused because I had not set any rules. And I am trying to figure out how to undo the rules so my plugins will sort. I was hoping there would be an "undo all rules" feature, but if there is one I'm not seeing it. After modding my game I did a default sort just to see if that would work well enough while I try to learn vortex so I could still play Skyrim and it did so I was happy until I just updated. If this was answered in another thread I appoligize and I'm fine being directed there. Any ideas?

[sopmac45]

Hey everyone, I'm modding Skyrim SE. I just updated to 0.15.0 and now I'm getting the "plugins not sorted because of cyclic rules" notification. I'm a little confused because I had not set any rules. And I am trying to figure out how to undo the rules so my plugins will sort. I was hoping there would be an "undo all rules" feature, but if there is one I'm not seeing it. After modding my game I did a default sort just to see if that would work well enough while I try to learn vortex so I could still play Skyrim and it did so I was happy until I just updated. If this was answered in another thread I appoligize and I'm fine being directed there. Any ideas?

 

Why did not you want to set any rule in the first place ? The only thing you needed to do is :

 

- Set rules in the MODS tab. When installing a mod that conflicts with another, you will see a red bolt on the icon beside that mod. Just click on that icon and setup your rule. What I do ( and the easiest way to do this ) is to click on the icon of the last mod installed and choose "load after" on every single mod that is conflicting with. If you try to setup ( for example ) : load after this one, load before that one, etc, etc, … you may get cycling errors. Just make sure that your mods are installed in the order they should. Follow S.E.P.T.I.M. load order and setup your rules as you are installing mods. Do not wait for all the mods to be installed to start dealing with rules so you will be very confused.

 

- Make sure you have auto-sort enabled in the PLUGINS tab and Vortex will sort your PLUGINS accordingly …. it would not hurt though if you click on the Sort tab but it is not necessary … DO NOT use LOOT if you use Vortex auto-sort.

 

- Play your game

 

…. just because PLUGINS can be sorted independently ( and manually ) using Manage Dependencies or by groups ( using Groups ) does not means that you must use those functions and it has been recommended not to use them UNLESS you encounter problems in your game. :huh:

 

I installed Skyrim last week and the above is exactly what I did so has been advised by Tannin in another thread. I also installed ( for the first time ) Fallout 4 last Friday and also I applied the above steps and my games are running accordingly, no cycling errors, no crashes, etc, etc.

 

I am simple impress by the easiest way and simplicity Vortex is handling my games. I have played Fallout 4 during 17.5 hours already with 76 mods + my own 5 custom mods ( same amount and setup that I used in NMM ) and I have not had any problem of any type, neither when I was setting my game nor playing it.

 

Plugins that before I was breaking my head with to place them where I thought I should or based on mod author's recommendation, are being now automatically sorted by Vortex and I have not had any problem at all. Those are worries of the past to be honest. No more " put this mod at the very bottom of your load to properly work ", etc, etc. ….. I am not paying attention to those statements but trusting Vortex blindly and so far so good. Flower Girls in Skyrim is not sorted at the bottom of my load order and it is running like a charm for example.

 

Again, if you follow the above steps, you will be fine. Forget about what you did back with NMM / MO. Vortex is different.

 

Hope this help and enjoy your game. :cool:

[jstgtpaid]

Hello,

 

I got a similar message when I updated Vortex. The solution is simple, however.

 

1. Click on the message to see which plugins are causing the issue. My message looked like the following...

 

 

 

2. Go to the plugins tab and change the category of the offending plugins to default. Well, default worked for me. I presume there may be other ways to resolve this. See the steps in the next picture to see where you would change the values.

1. click on PLUGINS

2. double-click on offending plugin identified in your error message

3. change group to default

 

 

 

I hope that helps you!

 

~Steven

[alannordgren]

Why did not you want to set any rule in the first place ?

 

Well, I was very used to how mod organizer did things and I have not played Skyrim for a few years because I was waiting for SKSE 64 to come out and some of my favorite mods to appear on the Nexus. So because of that I haven't modded in a while and because I was anxious to play Skyrim SE and because I was being a little lazy, I have not created rules and just used the sort function within Vortex. It was good enough for right now. But thanks so much for explaining the process for me.

 

I get easily lost in the forums trying to figure out how to use vortex. I handle manuals and instruction videos a lot better. Kind of a lame answer, but it's the best I got :).

[alannordgren]

Hello,

 

I got a similar message when I updated Vortex. The solution is simple, however.

 

/~/

 

I hope that helps you!

 

~Steven

Thanks Steven! You are a life saver.

[alannordgren]

I just noticed that updating to 0.15.1 fixed the issue. I was lazily working on Steven's work around but hadn't finished yet because I kept getting new cyclical errors after I fixed some, so I gave up until today. I updated and poof the problem went away. So thanks for the fix Tannin!

[U1849KA]

Hello,

 

I got a similar message when I updated Vortex. The solution is simple, however.

 

1. Click on the message to see which plugins are causing the issue. My message looked like the following...

 

loot_cyclic.png

 

2. Go to the plugins tab and change the category of the offending plugins to default. Well, default worked for me. I presume there may be other ways to resolve this. See the steps in the next picture to see where you would change the values.

1. click on PLUGINS

2. double-click on offending plugin identified in your error message

3. change group to default

 

cyclic_plugins.png

 

I hope that helps you!

 

~Steven

Getting the same error, but changing the mods to default did nothing. :/

 

I just need to get ESF Companions to load after Immserive Citizens, but no matter what I do, it pulls a cyclic error out of its butt and won't resolve.

[Zenithence]

 

Hey everyone, I'm modding Skyrim SE. I just updated to 0.15.0 and now I'm getting the "plugins not sorted because of cyclic rules" notification. I'm a little confused because I had not set any rules. And I am trying to figure out how to undo the rules so my plugins will sort. I was hoping there would be an "undo all rules" feature, but if there is one I'm not seeing it. After modding my game I did a default sort just to see if that would work well enough while I try to learn vortex so I could still play Skyrim and it did so I was happy until I just updated. If this was answered in another thread I appoligize and I'm fine being directed there. Any ideas?

 

Why did not you want to set any rule in the first place ? The only thing you needed to do is :

 

- Set rules in the MODS tab. When installing a mod that conflicts with another, you will see a red bolt on the icon beside that mod. Just click on that icon and setup your rule. What I do ( and the easiest way to do this ) is to click on the icon of the last mod installed and choose "load after" on every single mod that is conflicting with. If you try to setup ( for example ) : load after this one, load before that one, etc, etc, … you may get cycling errors. Just make sure that your mods are installed in the order they should. Follow S.E.P.T.I.M. load order and setup your rules as you are installing mods. Do not wait for all the mods to be installed to start dealing with rules so you will be very confused.

 

- Make sure you have auto-sort enabled in the PLUGINS tab and Vortex will sort your PLUGINS accordingly …. it would not hurt though if you click on the Sort tab but it is not necessary … DO NOT use LOOT if you use Vortex auto-sort.

 

- Play your game

 

…. just because PLUGINS can be sorted independently ( and manually ) using Manage Dependencies or by groups ( using Groups ) does not means that you must use those functions and it has been recommended not to use them UNLESS you encounter problems in your game. :huh:

 

I installed Skyrim last week and the above is exactly what I did so has been advised by Tannin in another thread. I also installed ( for the first time ) Fallout 4 last Friday and also I applied the above steps and my games are running accordingly, no cycling errors, no crashes, etc, etc.

 

I am simple impress by the easiest way and simplicity Vortex is handling my games. I have played Fallout 4 during 17.5 hours already with 76 mods + my own 5 custom mods ( same amount and setup that I used in NMM ) and I have not had any problem of any type, neither when I was setting my game nor playing it.

 

Plugins that before I was breaking my head with to place them where I thought I should or based on mod author's recommendation, are being now automatically sorted by Vortex and I have not had any problem at all. Those are worries of the past to be honest. No more " put this mod at the very bottom of your load to properly work ", etc, etc. ….. I am not paying attention to those statements but trusting Vortex blindly and so far so good. Flower Girls in Skyrim is not sorted at the bottom of my load order and it is running like a charm for example.

 

Again, if you follow the above steps, you will be fine. Forget about what you did back with NMM / MO. Vortex is different.

 

Hope this help and enjoy your game. :cool:

 

Thank you for saving me wise one.

[zAzA04]

Im also having a problem like this, I installed some new mods and when i was done and tried to start the game it didnt work then vortex said its because of cycles and i dont really understand how to fix it. I will be very glad for help ;D

[AugustaCalidia]

Im also having a problem like this, I installed some new mods and when i was done and tried to start the game it didnt work then vortex said its because of cycles and i dont really understand how to fix it. I will be very glad for help :laugh:

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