Vortex compatibility not clear

[ffwrude]

Hello,

 

i find the new conflict system really great. BUT

 

When you select a mod, you get a list of conflicted mods. You can select : "load before" or "load after" but are we talking

 

"Load before the mod i selected"

or

"Load this mod before the one i selcted"

 

this is rather unclear for me at first sight. I know it is explained in the doc but a "quick" change of text would be 100% clearer like : "Load X after X" not just "Load after"

[Grestorn]

"Load after" means that the mod you've clicked the flash icon on (and which is also listed in the dialog's header) is loaded after the mod which is listed in the line.

 

I.e. if you want the mod shown in the header getting priority over another mod, select "Load after" in that mod's line.

 

Hope this is clear enough. I had to struggle with this as well, as it really is not 100% clear.

[ffwrude]

Thank you and Yeah so that's what i got from the doc either but it's really not clear. I guess as feedback it would be more logical to have the list of the mods (not all minus the one you clicked) like

 

I click on Mod 1 and get

 

Mod 1 => Priotiry 1

Mod 2 => Priority 2

Mod 3 => Priority 3

 

or something along those lines. or also

 

Mod 1 => Load order 1

Mod 2 => Load order 2

Mod 3 => Load order 3

 

would be clearer

[HadToRegister]

Mart's Mutant Mod RC 62 - Original Mod

Mart's Mutant Mod 62 Update - Update patch

 

The patch needs to load AFTER the Original in order to overwrite it

 

So I can either set up a rule for Mart's Mutant Mod RC 62 - Original Mod, telling it to LOAD BEFORE the Update Patch

 

-OR-

I can set a rule for Mart's Mutant Mod 62 Update - Update patch, telling it to LOAD AFTER the original mod

 

It depends on which mod you want to set the rules for
For me LOAD AFTER is easier for me to keep track of

 

 

[Guest deleted34304850]

that's the way i do it as well. i always use LOAD AFTER for the few mods that give me this issue. I think if you consistently choose LOAD BEFORE or LOAD AFTER and stick to that for your load order, it will help you understand what's going on if you come back to your game after a few months and need a refresher in why stuff is in a particular way.

[HadToRegister]

Hope I made it clearer here

 

[AugustaCalidia]

Well, I for one find the mod conflict window clear. The very first time I clicked on a mod showing the conflict button, the mod appeared as the header in the conflict resolution window. I just naturally assumed it was the mod whose priority or lack thereof was at issue.

 

However, if others find this a bit confusing, then I'm certainly in favor of changes that will make the process clearer.

[ffwrude]

It is rather clear but i had to read your example like 4 or 5 times because in my head it doesn't want to understand it that way :(

 

That fact that you need to go to those depths to make me understand show that there's something unclear somewhere. Can't really put my finger on it

[sopmac45]

It is rather clear but i had to read your example like 4 or 5 times because in my head it doesn't want to understand it that way :sad:

 

That fact that you need to go to those depths to make me understand show that there's something unclear somewhere. Can't really put my finger on it

 

For example, in Skyrim there are two mods that modders are not sure which one to load first or after, SIMM and Ruins Clutter. You are not wrong either way but one must override the other.

 

SIMM applies to every single texture in the game and Ruins Clutter applies as well to almost the same but not as much I guess as SIMM does. You download SIMM and Enabled. Then you download Ruins Clutter and Enabled it. Ruins Clutter will trigger the red bolt meaning that there is another mod conflicting with.

 

So, you click on the Ruins Clutter red bolt ( last mod installed ) and a window pops up and the only mod that is in conflict is SIMM. At this point you have to make a decision, either you want to order Vortex :

 

Load After ( Ruins Clutter will load after SIMM and will override it ) ….

….. or No Rule ( not recommended in this case ) ….

….. and/or Load Before ( SIMM will load after and will override Ruins Clutter ).

 

Even though you installed / Enabled Ruins Clutter last, you can still choose to load it before SIMM when resolving your rules, so it won't matter which one you downloaded first from Nexus, it is the rule you set between those mods that will determine the load order for those mods. One of them must win and you decide which one will, by applying your rule.

 

This rule is not final. You can revert it if you want to, but I guess it would not be wise to do it midgame so you will change your load order and that is not recommended !!

 

Remember to set Auto-Sort in the Plugins Section so as soon as your mod has been Enabled, Vortex will sort that plugin according to LOOT since this one is integrated already in Vortex.

 

I love Vortex !! :cool:

[HadToRegister]

It is rather clear but i had to read your example like 4 or 5 times because in my head it doesn't want to understand it that way :sad:

 

That fact that you need to go to those depths to make me understand show that there's something unclear somewhere. Can't really put my finger on it

 

I was the same way with Algebra.