So Far Vortex Sucks

[DaveClaw]

I disagree, it works great for Fallout 4.

 

Though I only installed around 15 mods, not "600 to 1,000." Perhaps I'd have problems too if I added another 985 mods to the list.

[1SupremeBeing]

Well that's what I get for trying to interact with you. Good luck, you little charmer. :smile:

 

 

 

I apologize if I upset you, but many who have posted on here either seem ticked off because I didn't find Vortex great or they are acting like I'm stupid. I have said more than once that I am just providing feedback and my comments were meant for the Nexus team. If you want to discuss something with me, don't come at me like you intend to teach me a lesson or something. I'm not as ignorant as you seem to think from your post. I tried Vortex out and did a lot of research on how it works by reading the Knowledge Base, Help Pages, and forum posts. I didn't like the features I tried, and I found information that caused me to decide against using other features. I posted feedback here in order to help the Nexus team to improve Vortex in the future.

 

If you want to have a discussion about Vortex I am more than happy to do so, but I'm not defending my opinion anymore.

[Guest deleted34304850]

 

Well that's what I get for trying to interact with you. Good luck, you little charmer. :smile:

 

 

I apologize if I upset you, but many who have posted on here either seem ticked off because I didn't find Vortex great or they are acting like I'm stupid. I have said more than once that I am just providing feedback and my comments were meant for the Nexus team. If you want to discuss something with me, don't come at me like you intend to teach me a lesson or something. I'm not as ignorant as you seem to think from your post. I tried Vortex out and did a lot of research on how it works by reading the Knowledge Base, Help Pages, and forum posts. I didn't like the features I tried, and I found information that caused me to decide against using other features. I posted feedback here in order to help the Nexus team to improve Vortex in the future.

 

If you want to have a discussion about Vortex I am more than happy to do so, but I'm not defending my opinion anymore.

 

i'm not upset. Didn't you see my little smiley face icon? All this is just words on the internet, and i'm quite pleased with my own contribution as it was an attempt to engage in a positive way. Obviously you interpreted it differently and viewed it as an attack of some sort, which confuses me a bit and leads me to think that you may be one of those special kind of people who are easily triggered by the most innocent of things.

 

But horses for courses and all that, we're all different and all contribute to life's rich tapestry.

 

My lesson here is that I really shouldn't engage with you, because I don't want you to feel as if you are in any way under attack, or that you may come across as stupid.

 

do you think you DO come across as stupid? Is that why you respond like you do? If it helps, I don't think you come across as stupid at all, I tend not to engage with stupid people, but i did think that I could learn something from the engagement that may help me with my knowledge of Vortex, and modding various games. I ask questions to educate myself, nothing more than that.

 

i also think however, you have me mistaken.

 

i asked you one question and one question only which was why would it take weeks for you to reinstall your mods. i asked that because i am unaware of the complexity of your setup. it was for my own knowledge. i didn't judge you on your reply and my second reply was simply trying to offer some engagement with you, in the event that one day you may consider revisiting the use of vortex.

 

the second lesson i learned here is - you don't want any kind of engagement, which is fine, it kind of belies the fact that you post on a public forum, but that's fine too. However, at no point have i "come at you" - which would suggest some sort of personal attack.

 

Do you often mistake innocent engagement for a personal attack on your personage and your intelligence?

 

One final thought for you to digest and then we'll move on and probably never cross paths again, which may be a blessing; my observation here is that you don't seem to understand how forums work;

 

this forum is public

 

if you post, people can respond. whether you want them to, or not. It is a community after all.

 

if you want your opinion to be private then don't post it in a public forum and then you won't get triggered when people respond in ways you don't like and can't handle. Not an unreasonable suggestion, huh?

 

Anyway, much love, my easily triggered, defensive, detail-free-feedback friend. :)

[Tannin42]

First, the only games I can get it to support are Sims 4, Skyrim SE, and Stardew Valley. I can't figure out how to add any other games and it apparently doesn't read what I have installed like NMM since it can't seem to find Morrowind, Oblivion, or the original Skyrim. If they aren't supported then Vortex is rather useless to me. I don't use a mod manager for Sims 4, so adding Stardew Valley isn't worth loosing the other 3 games.

You can't figure out how to add other games? Literally all you have to do is click the game icon for the games that weren't discovered automatically where it says "Manually Set Location" or click the "Scan for Games" button.

 

When NMM starts it scans your entire disk for games. Vortex by default only checks in the registry or Steam DB to find game directories since that takes milliseconds instead of hours. The fact that so many of your games aren't discovered this way shows that they aren't correctly installed in the first place. A common cause is when people reinstall windows but not reinstall the game.

You can however start a full disk scan too, on the games screen, labeled "Scan for games".

 

Second, Vortex can't read any mods already installed in the 3 games it did find. From everything I read my choices are to import from NMM (which can cause problems) drag & drop from NMM (which can cause problems) or uninstall all of my mods & reinstall using Vortex. I'm not misunderstanding anything or assuming anything. I got these facts straight from Vortex Help Pages. Doing a clean install would take weeks with all the mods I use.

Vortex is a new mod manager.

If you switch from NMM to Wrye Bash or from NMM to Kortex or from WB to NMM or from WB to MO or from WB to Kortex or from MO to NMM or generally if you switch from any mod manager to another you _have_ to reinstall mods. This has nothing to do with the Quality of Vortex, no mod manager just goes and starts managing mods installed through another mod manager.

The only combinations that have a migration path is NMM -> MO and NMM -> Vortex, both are error prone because the data housekeeping of NMM is broken and the longer you've been using NMM, the more unlikely it is it will work correctly.

However, the NMM -> Vortex import is non-destructive. It is possible that it will fail or not import all mods and it may take a long time, but it will not break the NMM install, it only reads it.

 

Third, all mods not handled by NMM, such as those I created myself or those I manually installed, can't be imported and may not be readable by Vortex. There is a warning in Vortex stating that these mods may malfunction or not work at all. That means I absolutely can't use Vortex with Sims 4 since I have over 400 mods that are from sites which require manual downloads, but it also means I can't use mods I created for personal use for Skyrim SE.

If you didn't handle the mods with NMM, why do you need to handle them with Vortex? I'm not sure what "warning in Vortex" you refer to but I can guarantee you you misunderstood it if you believe you can't use mods not managed through Vortex.

Vortex, more than NMM or WB, is built to not interfere with mods managed outside Vortex.

 

Fourth, the interface is not user friendly. It is confusing at times, and many features are not explained. I hate using something that laves me scratching my head or makes me look it up online just to figure out basic functions. It needs a built-in manual to explain things.

To be honest, considering you didn't find the "Scan for games" button or the existing built-in manual, I'm tempted to say you didn't really try to understand it. Apart from the KB, Vortex has information buttons all over the place that explain features or terms. Plus there are online videos.

[AugustaCalidia]

This forum is for feedback so they can learn what we do & don't like about Vortex.

 

Did I miss the part where you discussed what you actually like about Vortex?

 

 

If I were you, I'd read what this forum is for. I gave feedback. Period. I wasn't reporting bugs or problems because that is a different forum.

 

If it looks like a report, walks like a report, and quacks like a report, then it's a report.

[1SupremeBeing]

I sincerely apologize for giving my opinion on the forum I mistakenly thought was meant for feedback. I won't badmouth your precious Vortex anymore.

[HadToRegister]

I sincerely apologize for giving my opinion on the forum I mistakenly thought was meant for feedback. I won't badmouth your precious Vortex anymore.

 

Tannin42 is the developer of Vortex, if anybody knows Vortex it's him.

[Guest deleted34304850]

if i can give some constructive feedback on your feedback, it contains very few details of actual problems.

 

for example, you say that you don't like the UI. That's fine, but its opinion and personal taste, rather than feedback on what you don't like and how you think it could be improved, with some suggestions. Also - you can customise the UI to your own personal tastes by cloning the CSS and editing it how you want.

 

As you tested the product so diligently, I'm sure you know this already.

 

If you did edit the UI to your own taste, I'd love to see what you did, to see if I like it as well. Would you consider putting your work up for anonymous people to rip it to shreds based on nothing but ignorance?

 

The title of this post also doesn't represent you in a good way. If you'd titled it something like "Vortex Feedback" it may have been taken a little more openly, but, to use your own terms "you came at" the Vortex developers with a hostile opening, and from there, it went downhill rapidly.

 

I know you directed your feedback to the devs exclusively, but I hope you take this in the spirit that it was intended, which was to guide you to living up to your forum name a little more than you have done thus far.

 

Much love my gives it but can't take it friend. May your skin always be thin and translucent.

[edddiem2]

So my problem with vortex is that I choose the custom install so i could map it to the D: drive. I then had to manually set where the mods would be downloaded to which again i set to the D: drive. after downloading 8 gbs worth of mods i checked and vortex had somehow defaulted to the C; drive where i don't have any games installed, when i told it to move everything to the D: it copied all 8 Gbs to the D: drive but also added another 8 gbs of data to my C: drive.

 

 

 

I was also having some issues with the buttons at the top of the U.I. not actually doing anything like the categories button\

[AugustaCalidia]

So my problem with vortex is that I choose the custom install so i could map it to the D: drive. I then had to manually set where the mods would be downloaded to which again i set to the D: drive. after downloading 8 gbs worth of mods i checked and vortex had somehow defaulted to the C; drive where i don't have any games installed, when i told it to move everything to the D: it copied all 8 Gbs to the D: drive but also added another 8 gbs of data to my C: drive.

 

I was also having some issues with the buttons at the top of the U.I. not actually doing anything like the categories button\

 

Please start a new thread for this issue in the Vortex Support Forum. Please follow the steps in the linked "how to" post for requesting support: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/7332636-how-to-post-request-support-for-vortex/.