Vortex 1.0 Release

[HadToRegister]

 

In response to post #72546868.

 

 

 

Brabbit1987 wrote:

Honestly, I am surprised there are still some people complaining about the whole drag and drop thing in Vortex. You can literally place a mod exactly where you want using rules, which serves the exact same function. There is even a little area for it to work like dragging and dropping to create those rules.

 

From day one, this "problem" never even existed. It's just some people who don't want to learn a new method in doing things and so they complain like children, even though it's extremely simple and not hard to learn.

 

I also agree with HadToRegister for once. Even if you absolutely detest the way vortex does these things, just move on. You have other mod managers you can use that work exactly the way you want. Quite frankly, I am shocked to see any mod author complain this much over something that really isn't that big of a deal. I am sure you get comments all the time about your mods and how someone may not like something the way it is or altered from how it was previously. How often do you think their complaining is productive? Or how about a mod that does something one way, and someone complains it doesn't do it another way when a mod already exists that does it the way they want? Like, just use that mod then.

 

It's just I would expect mod authors to be more understanding here. But I guess some mod authors are no better than other users. Not sure why that surprises me.

It's just some people who don't want to learn a new method

Spot on! I have better things to learn.

 

 

Good!

 

Having all those other Mod Managers to use allows you to use your time wisely, instead of continuously coming back here to complain about a Mod Manager you don't use.

 

AMIRIGHT?

 

Problem Solved, and your time is saved to go and do all those other important things.

 

[Guest deleted34304850]

 

In response to post #72546868.

 

 

 

Brabbit1987 wrote:

Honestly, I am surprised there are still some people complaining about the whole drag and drop thing in Vortex. You can literally place a mod exactly where you want using rules, which serves the exact same function. There is even a little area for it to work like dragging and dropping to create those rules.

 

From day one, this "problem" never even existed. It's just some people who don't want to learn a new method in doing things and so they complain like children, even though it's extremely simple and not hard to learn.

 

I also agree with HadToRegister for once. Even if you absolutely detest the way vortex does these things, just move on. You have other mod managers you can use that work exactly the way you want. Quite frankly, I am shocked to see any mod author complain this much over something that really isn't that big of a deal. I am sure you get comments all the time about your mods and how someone may not like something the way it is or altered from how it was previously. How often do you think their complaining is productive? Or how about a mod that does something one way, and someone complains it doesn't do it another way when a mod already exists that does it the way they want? Like, just use that mod then.

 

It's just I would expect mod authors to be more understanding here. But I guess some mod authors are no better than other users. Not sure why that surprises me.

It's just some people who don't want to learn a new method

Spot on! I have better things to learn.

 

oh that post is just too funny.

Edited August 15, 2019 by 1ae0bfb8

[Nebuchadnezzer92]

 

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HadToRegister wrote:

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HadToRegister wrote:

In response to post #72518033.

 

 

 

HadToRegister wrote:

In response to post #72466388. #72490168, #72503613 are all replies on the same post.

 

 

 

ksolonenko wrote: But we still can't change load order as easiliy as in any other mod manager?

UWShocks wrote: No drag-n-drop (which I'd like to see with Vortex).

 

But you can still setup rules (like with the old BOSS and LOOT plugin sorters [anyone that's been along long enough, this won't be an issue]), and if you need a plugin at a specific spot then you can assign that plugin an Index number (like assign a plugin to load at the 90th plugin spot via Mod Index).

 

Sorting is easy with Vortex, it would be even easier with drag-n-drop support.

IMO, Vortex is a very good mod manager. There's room for improvement but I don't really understand the hate it receives.

Zanderat wrote: Neither do I. What puzzles me is that the prominent complainers (Arthmoor, etc.) just sit there and complain rather than offer actual useful feedback or suggestions for improvements that that they see as necessary.

We have. Said feedback was rejected as being hateful or needless complaining. So you can imagine why those of us who don't use Vortex because we don't like where it's gone are no longer interested in trying to offer these opinions to the developers or to staff. They're not interested.

So that means you can all stop now, and move on to using the Mod Manager of your choice, such as WryeBash, MO, MO2, NMM, manually etc.

 

It's nice to have choices, instead of endlessly arguing about making every single mod manager the same.

Or we can continue to explain it to people who directly ask us about it whether or not you happen to like that. See how that works?

 

Some of you people are worse than cult members.

Said the guy who jumped into a Fallout New Vegas thread discussion thread just to tell everybody that he thinks that Fallout New Vegas was the worst Fallout ever.

I can't remember if you called everybody Zealots or Cult Members in that thread or not too, because apparently, everybody that likes something YOU don't is a Zealot or Cult Member.

Probably though.

 

It's funny that you're trying to toss around that "Cult Member" insult, while acting like a Zealot and Cult Member.

 

The only cult members here are the ones who won't just move on and use a different mod manager that they claim is "superior" to Vortex, and instead want to drone on endlessly about Vortex instead.

That's dedication AND obsession.

 

If Vortex was a person, it would've gotten a restraining order against you several pages ago.

I can't remember if you called everybody Zealots or Cult Members in that thread or not

Then why even bring it up if you haven't even bothered to go see what I actually said?

 

Oh wait, because that's just what you do is throw around wild accusations about what you THINK people said and act like it's what they actually said. Which is highly amusing since you're accusing me of exactly that. Hypocrisy much?

 

Because it shows that you just like to jump in a thread where people are enjoying a discussion about things, and take a dump all over it, "Just Because"

You just like to argue for the sake of arguing and consider your opinion the only valid one, hence you jumping in the FONV to crap all over what was an interesting discussion, for the sole purpose of crapping on the discussion.

 

Anyway, I've argued with you before, and you have an obsession with having the last word, so I'll let you have at it, because you won't ever stop unless I let you have the last word.

The other participants in that thread don't seem to share your opinion of what happened there so I think you're just seeing what you want to see, which is always the case with anything you post.

 

"I think you're just seeing what you want to see, which is always the case with anything you post."

 

HAH

That's f*#@in rich, coming from you.

 

[VL4DST3R]

Ok, I've been reading page after page of comments on this thread for the last 30 minutes or so but for the life of me i don't understand what are you people arguing about?

First 3-4 pages in: all seemed normal, people discussing why vortex limiting your options in regards to configuring your load order is a good/bad thing, but now i see all kinds of accusations and passive-aggressive replies everywhere.

Can someone tell me what happened here? I'm interested in the evolution of the nexus as a whole and bethesda games modding in general, but i would like to not have to go through 25+ pages of bickering between a few users to figure out where we're at currently.

Edited August 15, 2019 by VladBoss

[Guest deleted34304850]

tl;dr

 

vortex 1.0 announced.

some people like it and use it.

some people don't like it and don't use it.

some people don't like it, don't use it and post telling anyone/everyone reading that they don't like it and don't use it. no-one knows why.

 

hth

[HadToRegister]

tl;dr

 

vortex 1.0 announced.

some people like it and use it.

some people don't like it and don't use it.

some people don't like it, don't use it and post telling anyone/everyone reading that they don't like it and don't use it, on a regular, if not daily basis, as if once wasn't enough. no-one knows why.

 

hth

 

 

FTFY

[VL4DST3R]

 

some people don't like it, don't use it and post telling anyone/everyone reading that they don't like it and don't use it, on a regular, if not daily basis, as if once wasn't enough. no-one knows why.

OK... and is that because of something in particular? From what i understand Vortex isn't like imposed on anyone or anything, right? Like, nobody said it will be completely locked out in favor of vortex? I've personally tried vortex a few times since it launched but i consistently found the UI absolutely atrocious, it looks more like an xbox UI than a mod manager, giant buttons, non-intuitive layout and generally quite convoluted so it wasn't long before i switched back to NMM.

 

And while i must admit, i had a bit of a heart attack and subsequent rage towards the nexus team when one day i saw an error that it can no longer log in into my nexus account via NMM due to the API being discontinued (in favor of the one being developed for/with vortex). My fears went away though when i found the community maintained version of NMM that works as well as ever. If there is one thing i wish they would do, is to backport the newly supported games to the NMM (like stardew valley).

 

[Guest deleted34304850]

how it looks is 100% irrelevant given that it can be completely customised to how you like it. it's how it works which is important and it works so much better than NMM.

but you are correct - no-one is forced into using it. contrary to some of the nonsense posts you'll find scattered across nexusmods.

Edited August 15, 2019 by 1ae0bfb8

[creepysin]

I am glad this came out, this was long needed.

[WastelandProject]

Migration from NMM for about a year: Skyrim SE, FNV, F4, Morrowind.

Vortex works excellently as far as I'm concerned, even the functions are easy to understand, conflicts between mods are easily solved, never any crashes.

On the order of loading I do not express myself, I read on the forums loading orders with over a hundred mod, maybe it is a topic that could interest those users, personally I never install more than 10-15 mods and Vortex works great.

 

Edited August 17, 2019 by WastelandProject