Stolen Assets FROM SKYUI

[Moksha8088]

 

Incorrect. You and other users have been stating that he "stole" assets from SkyUI, which is false. You'd do well not to state such things especially after admitting you know they aren't true, as you're opening yourself to legal action from the author. Just a friendly warning on that point.

 

Let's hope Schlangster pursues this matter so we readers can get to the bottom of this question.

[HomerSlated]

As someone who does not have a UE4 forum account, and has no interest in ever having one, I would hope that I'm free to continue expressing my opinion on this matter without fear of censorship from Epic and its employees.

 

As to whether or not this qualifies as "stolen", there are already many legal precedents that cover the unauthorised use of designs, most notably the Apple vs. Samsung cases.

 

Of course, in that case, Apple held actual design patents, which is why they were explicitly protected by law, and AFAIK the SkyUI team has no such patents, so strictly as a matter of law this does not qualify as patent infringement.

 

However, not all forms of theft are covered by law, the most prominent example being plagiarism. The fact of plagiarism being theft predates and is orthogonal to the existence of intellectual property law. In other words, describing something as "stolen", even when the law provides no protection against that particular form of theft, would not even remotely qualify as defamation, because no court would ever dispute that the characterisation of plagiarism as theft is both honest and accurate, even if the technicalities of law provide no recourse in such matters.

 

Ultimately plagiarism is indisputably wrong and morally indefensible, so those who commit plagiarism need to be held to account, as do those who ignore or excuse such behaviour.

 

James Moore has clearly plagiarised SkyUI, and Epic is knowingly hosting and profiting from this plagiarised material on its site, then defending it with nugatory threats of censorship and defamation. Even if the law has nothing to say about that, I suspect that Epic's customers and investors might, along with the Press and the general public.

 

This could easily be resolved if Moore simply credited his design to the SkyUI team. Even if he has no intention of ever seeking permission to copy their designs (because unfortunately he is not legally compelled to do so), and has even less interest in sharing the profit he enjoys from their work, at least he would no longer be committing plagiarism.

[Arthmoor]

UE4 Forum Moderator here, this is your one and ONLY WARNING:

 

* If you keep spamming the Q&A section, slinging insults at the Marketplace author etc, and lying about his product, you will be receiving actions against your UE4 forum accounts. Your behavior is not acceptable. I don't care about your arguments for or against this pack, your behavior is still breaking the rules of the UE4 forums and website.

This is not a good image to project if you truly are an employee of Epic Games. Pursuing things to another site to threaten the userbase for standing up for another person's rights? That's the scummiest thing I've seen in awhile.

 

Personally though, I doubt you actually are an employee, and are instead defending this theft because you were dumb enough to get duped into buying it before you knew what the story was.

[Moksha8088]

 

This is not a good image to project if you truly are an employee of Epic Games. Pursuing things to another site to threaten the userbase for standing up for another person's rights? That's the scummiest thing I've seen in awhile.

Thank you for expressing this thought so well.

Edited June 26, 2020 by Moksha8088

[Zanderat]

 

UE4 Forum Moderator here, this is your one and ONLY WARNING:

 

* If you keep spamming the Q&A section, slinging insults at the Marketplace author etc, and lying about his product, you will be receiving actions against your UE4 forum accounts. Your behavior is not acceptable. I don't care about your arguments for or against this pack, your behavior is still breaking the rules of the UE4 forums and website.

This is not a good image to project if you truly are an employee of Epic Games. Pursuing things to another site to threaten the userbase for standing up for another person's rights? That's the scummiest thing I've seen in awhile.

 

Personally though, I doubt you actually are an employee, and are instead defending this theft because you were dumb enough to get duped into buying it before you knew what the story was.

 

Interesting that the "UE4 Forum Moderator" hasn't removed any of the comments about SkyUI............

[Gunslinger808]

Probably a CYA on their part, easier to ignore it than to step into the fur ball that is going to come of this.

Really though, they should disable the sale of this until the propriety of the mod can be determined, should it go to litigation they would be culpable for allowing the plagiarism to continue.

[Arthmoor]

Yep. Safe Harbor protection under the DMCA is long gone now that their staff is aware of the violation.

[Zanderat]

Looks like it is still up. :mad:

[worm82075]

Are you sure Sclangster is the only one that can do something legally? Technically Bethesda holds copyright over this data since it was derived from their game.

[Zanderat]

Are you sure Sclangster is the only one that can do something legally? Technically Bethesda holds copyright over this data since it was derived from their game.

Only Schlangster would possibly care. Bethesda would spend more on resources than they could recoup from this guy.