marharth

He "resigned" AKA he has someone else going into power that is exactly the same has him, yay!

When I heard about this I lol'd He also recently dissed Ron Paul, and that's a big f*** up. Nearly everyone on the left and the right like Ron Paul. He has very little chance of winning...

Good point, after a certain point people need to learn what they want.

Our forefathers warned of big business, and they would have completely gone insane if they could find out today that businesses have the same rights as humans. Our forefathers did not stands for small government at all, they stood for a free system and a government that didn't have too much power. That doesn't mean that the government has to be small. In fact a lot of our forefathers believed that we should have big government, and that was a very large debate back then. Who runs the country that thinks capitalism is a issue? I don't know of a single senator or house member who thinks capitalism is a issue. Some people want a regulated form of capitalism but that doesn't mean its not capitalism. There is a difference between capitalism and corporatism. Capitalism is a equal chance system where people compete in the market. Corporatism is when the market is not equal chance and large business tries to wipe out competition. We are much closer to Corporatism right now. Yes people running the country are a issue but that's because corporate lobbyists bought them out.

Well, aside from the Golem of Prague, which is basically a robot energized by magic, who is the "Defender of the Jews/Ghetto", as it was, there are other examples from more "classical" mylhology. Hephaestus made robots to help him in the forge, as well as creating the gigantic bronze robot Thalos, which can be seen in that great old film, Sinbad or Jason and the Argonauts, I don't remember. While he seems like a big magically animated statue, he is clearly a mechanical construction, as is seen by his downfall when they unstopper his fluids, created by the Greek god Hephaestus. He forged tripods which moved about autonomously on golden wheels to serve the gods that visited him. He also made out of gold two maids, since he had a limp, who could serve him, speak, and were filled with all of the wisdom of the immortals, according to the Illiad. His Roman counterpart Vulcan, in a very similar vein, made slave girls out of gold for himself, or so I've read. Hm fair enough, not sure if I would consider them cyborgs as much as animated statues but I guess in our modern day people would think that.

Ill make this short. As long as the USA doesn't spread propaganda about how the Muslim brotherhood are evil terrorists (when they are peaceful and don't want violence) then we should be fine. Then again I think if every country just doesn't do or say anything about it they will sort it out on their own.

I would say yes... People who played pen and paper also played the computer games, and many people who have never played pen and paper have played the computer games. So a much larger number plays the computer games now days, so I would have to say it pretty much replaced it for the most part.

Yes and no. Yesterday is the past, Marharth, even two seconds ago is technically. Everything that is not now yet has existed is "the past", as the future is a present that doesn't yet exist. This is the basic conception of time in all Germanic/Teutonic/Scandinavian/etc peoples, that is why in English we have past tense and present tense but we have no actual future tense. You can say you did and you do, but to say what is going to happen, you have to say you "will" do it, i.e. enforce your will through the ever-consecutive presents until that "future" is now. Enough of that... Therefore, all that we have created in our Imaginarium comes from the past because it has already been created. Cyborgs, and their medieval/renaissance equivalents in Golems, have existed for centuries. In fact, in the Ancient World, there were tales of mechanical monsters (pardon the alliteration, creatures would be better perhaps, or constructions) in ancient pagan temples (Greece), statues that moved on their own, etc, even some that had lights that shined out of their eyes (electricity?). It's only a common perceptual inclination that when we refer to Mythology, we mean Greeks, Romans, Vikings, etc, cultures in "the past". That is normally, and I don't imply you here, simply a way to look down on those people's world views as something that "isn't real", or not really "religion" when compared to the socially and culturally more widespread and accepted "religions" of today, i.e. a Time-biased way of looking at what comes "later" as obviously "better" in some misaligned application of Darwinian "evolution". So, in fact, cyborgs (or the essence of being a cyborg as seen through the perceptual optics of the time) have been around not only for twenty years or a hundred, but actually for thousands in one form or another. What makes it mythology is that it is associated with a myth, I have never heard of any myth having to do with machine people but if you can quote one ill shut up :P

Then you would have areas that are extremely corrupted, and others that might not be corrupted. I think that everyone is going to get bribed as long as big corporations exist, so I think the better way would be to completely get rid of large corporate power. How does that happen when it's the big businesses writing the laws? They are much more likely to outlaw companies with less than 100 employees at this point. The only viable solution is the one the founders came up with and that we have abandoned. Don't give the government the ability to do much in the first place. That way there isn't a whole lot the corporations can corrupt. Most of our problems to date come from the bastardization of the "commerce clause". A new amendment restricting the Feds rights on this topic is the only viable solution I can see. I doubt congress could do anything about it since 90 percent of them are bought if not more. That being said it would be extremely hard to get rid of big business in a peaceful way, and it would most likely need to be done through protests or force. The thing is people don't realize that the issue is being fueled by large corporate power, and think its solely the governments fault when its not.

There are not many times when congress passes legislation about education. That bill didn't really change much anyways. Almost all the power is in local departments hands as it is now.

Then you would have areas that are extremely corrupted, and others that might not be corrupted. I think that everyone is going to get bribed as long as big corporations exist, so I think the better way would be to completely get rid of large corporate power.

But what we have now is bug business controlling big government so every new power you give to the government you are essentially giving to big business by proxy. Small limited government means less powers to be corrupted. If the government is too small to control corporate power then the corporations can just replace the government. What evidence do you have that big government is doing anything to control corporate power? Instead they are making it easier and easier for big business to exclude themselves from the rules and harder for small companies to compete. If you have the money you can bribe your way out of anything. Exactly, that's what I am saying...

But what we have now is bug business controlling big government so every new power you give to the government you are essentially giving to big business by proxy. Small limited government means less powers to be corrupted. If the government is too small to control corporate power then the corporations can just replace the government.

I think it should be up to the states, personally I think school should be mandatory until at least 15 or 16 at which point they should be able to opt out for a another type of school. As far as standardized tests go that again is mostly due to the Dept of Education, they demand the same test be given to all students and base funding and other things on those test. The Dept of Education has only been around for 30 years, every year of that 30 years our results have gotten worse. Get the Fed out, cut out that extra layer of bureaucracy and waste. I am a bit confused in what your trying to say. The department of education isn't nearly as federal as you think. Its a federal branch, but the local districts have a much greater power then the federal part.

I believe quite a few morals are built into humans, and some don't need to be taught Looking at it through a evolutionary view morals make all the sense in the world. It is better to team up with others and help out, then kill/hurt/steal from others. It would have built a trust system and increased chances of survival. It would have made it so most of man wouldn't be its own predator. I would like to think morals are already there for the most part, some might be changed from life experiences and others might need to be taught, but for the most part humans understand morals as a whole without the need for much help.

Honestly I rarely post anywhere but the debate section. I like that the forums have more then support and mod sections.

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No...they have the same obligation to KEEP it. If as a society we wait til people earn the respect they are shown things would be insane...as is the point of kids acting like idiots. When you no longer have cause to respect someone, then you offer your civility and nothing more. What I meant by "gain" was that a lot of authoritarian figures always say that others have to gain their respect. It would be great if everyone would respect everyone though without any issues... It must be earned through good actions that are appreciated or a very reasonable words. ( but actions speak louder) And what somebody can earn somebody may can lose by bad word and actions that are interpreted as non good by others . So if soemone cant keep his word he mostly loses respect a bit. Behaves a bit like money. So if respect is the only moral concept all here know or are there others that are good for children teenagers ? It works like money if you start off with a million dollars. I don't think respect is the only thing, I think teaching about free thinking is the most important thing for people to learn morals. No one is going to teach teenagers morals, I don't know why that's in the topic title...

Internet messed up, double posted by accident. Can a mod delete this?

Private banks need to be destroyed and made illegal. I am extremely anti big business, big business is a bigger threat to human kind then any government can be. The world debt is caused due to big corporate power and nothing more.

The thing is its not just tests, I agree with what your saying of course its just that the system also has messed up ways of teaching. I think the system is way too authoritarian, and that's one of the biggest issues next to the fact schools don't teach they tell. @csgators I would assume you would also want to get rid of the mandatory education law, which I would agree with in some ways. I doubt it would be able to pass in our congress. I do think that its important to have a public education system though, if you only have private systems then only people who can afford it can get education.

No...they have the same obligation to KEEP it. If as a society we wait til people earn the respect they are shown things would be insane...as is the point of kids acting like idiots. When you no longer have cause to respect someone, then you offer your civility and nothing more. What I meant by "gain" was that a lot of authoritarian figures always say that others have to gain their respect. It would be great if everyone would respect everyone though without any issues...

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/296453-topfree-equality Bit confused about your post o.o

"(that have no other reason to be respected)" Think everyone missed that... What I am trying to say is that a teacher/parent has the same obligation to gain respect as the child/student.

Ill go ahead and post now I guess... 1. Make the Department of Education completely federal, having a bunch of local school districts doesn't help anything. 2. Make a federal dropout age of around 12-15, I think most people can be sure that school isn't working at that point. 3. Make it so a student can learn how they want to, forcing a certain way of education for everyone doesn't help. 4. Schools need to teach you how to think, not what to think.