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If that allows you to run some flavor of Windows (and not simply an emulator) on your Mac, that should work.

That being said, I'm still prepared...just in case. I'm not worried about some magical/mystical mumbo-jumbo. I'm concerened about how human beings will act that day and what foolishness they will perpetrate. At the very least, it MIGHT be prudent to fill your tank, go to the ATM and get some extra cash, have some extra canned food at home and if you have a medical condition that requires regular medication, get extra doses. That way IF something weird happens you'll be somewhat ready and if nothing happens you will still be able to use the gas, eat the food and take the meds. Pretty similar to the predictions for Y2K, and then the non-event it turned out to be. Still, doesn't hurt to be prepared. :D

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Do the dead zones move at all? Sometimes they will bite, but later, they won't?

The two shouldn't have anything to do with each other. OBSE loads before any mods have the remotest chance to conflict. Where is the game currently installed? (full path please.)

I fully agree that private companies, design and manufacture the tools of the trade, and thats because they are far better at innovation and thinking outside of the box. However, using an analogy to demonstrate my concern. I drive a Vauxhall Nova, and quite rightly Vauxhall design and manufacture cars far better than I could. But would I be happy, if Vauxhall engineers drove my car for me, and decided how to use my car. I think not. So in the same way, should the customer (the military) allow the manufacturers of their hardware, be happy allowing the manufacturers access to the weapon systems, once they have been deployed. If I understand it correctly, they will only be responsible for storage, and maintenance, not use...... (I should hope....)

One of the reasons I don't watch broadcast television. :D Lets not forget the droughts, crop failures, and collapsing governments.... not to mention failing economies... I hear ya man. And I agree with you. I don't live in UK, so, it isn't quite as bad here in the states, but, I STILL wouldn't watch broadcast TV. :D

The military courts are not bound by a fair few civilian laws.... (like, sentencing guidelines, for instance....) And yes, I would suspect that a civilian would have a much larger chance of getting a good lawyer, that could pull some stunts, that would get their client a significantly reduced sentence, if not get them off completely, no matter how much evidence there is that said person is guilty.

Ok, so, that wasn't it either then. Well, tell ya what, I am just going to give up on this whole line of convo, as I am evidently missing something significant here. Either that, or, some folks just want me to admit that I am "wrong" on my opinion. Unless/Until someone gives me a VALID reason why I should do so, (and no, I don't think "sportsmanship" qualifies) I will continue to defend my positions. Thank You for your time.

AHA!!! Ok, now I think some light is dawning at the end of the tunnel. (let's hope it's not simply a muzzle flash....) So, the main point of contention here, is that I/we don't ACKNOWLEDGE that someone has a valid point?? (I am still rather confused on just who "we" are though...... I wasn't aware that I had teamed up with anyone to shut out anyone else. My apologies if folks got that impression, it certainly wasn't intentional.)

I'm gonna go with YES. It shows good sportsmanship and demonstrates the ability to 'be wrong' and admit it. Goes back to 'right at any cost'. Yet the 'I'm not willing to surrender the point' attitude prevents just that. Erm, Please see the example I cited. I do not concede that just because someone has a valid point, it makes mine "wrong".

This is a fact plain and simple ... and is sadly the reason why many people don't want to participate here anymore. I'm extremely very busy these days hence my excessively reduced postings here ... but it is quite obvious that there is a clique here and sadly only those in it don't seem to think that others don't recognise that fact ... how sad. I for one post here to add my opinion to a topic ... I'm not moved if someone doesn't reply or respond to it ... some here think that if they ignore you then you'll go away ... thing is I'm pretty complete as a person and don't go running around craving atttention ... I do have a life. But anyhow back to the topic at hand ... What I find immensly rewarding is the challenge I have to defend my own opinions to myself by the brilliant arguements from both sides of the spectrum ... I sometimes spend hours if I have the time ... increasing my understanding on an issue ... and yes, I have had a rethink on many a belief I've held. And if need be I have no qualms in mentioning it publicly either. What I find amazing is the total rigidty of people who stick to their guns when it's obvious that another person's point has validity ... this is what friend of mine from Texas says is "ignorance gone to seed". “I can be on guard against my enemies, but God deliver me from my friends!” ― Charlotte Brontë, The Letters of Charlotte Brontë Every point has validity, but, just becomes someones point is valid, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Should I not defend my opinions? Shall I bow to someone that has a valid point, just because it IS valid? Does someone else having a valid point, make mine INvalid?? For example: Sure, banning assault weapons altogether has the real possibility of reducing crimes committed with them, and that is a valid stance. Shall I change my opinion on what my constitutional rights are, based on that? If your answer is 'yes', I'm afraid I am going to have to disagree.

I think that right there is the big question..... the military isn't concerned with turning a profit on the job, only with getting the job done, and, hopefully... done right. Private sector is going to be concerned about making money on the deal. So, where are they going to cut costs, to maximize profits? I suppose, only time will tell if this was a good idea or not. They can cut costs by cutting waste and being more efficient, the public sector in the U.K has got wasting money down to a fine art. The private sector have an incentive to be efficient, not being so cuts into their bottom line and they run risk of losing the contract if they don't provide an acceptable level of service. The public sector have no incentive, they've always seen the taxpayer pocket as a magical thing that dispenses endless piles of cash. Of course there are good and bad companies, the trick is use the good ones. Good points. Just so long as the company has their priorities straight, it may indeed be a winning decision. Let's hope it is. :D

I think that right there is the big question..... the military isn't concerned with turning a profit on the job, only with getting the job done, and, hopefully... done right. Private sector is going to be concerned about making money on the deal. So, where are they going to cut costs, to maximize profits? I suppose, only time will tell if this was a good idea or not.

I am aware of the definition of profit, my question becomes, in the overall scheme of things, do their investments, taken as a whole, make them money, or cost them money? Just like any other investor, it's the big picture that tells the tale. Sure, individual investments might turn a profit, but, their are always those that they lose out on as well. 500 million dollar loss on Solyndra alone....

Ooops. Edited my first post. government's CAN'T turn a profit. Investors? My question would be, do they get any return on their investments? Or, do they lose their shirt because they invest in 'unwise' adventures? (Solyndra springs immediately to mind....) I haven't seen any numbers on returns from US government "investment" in anything, aside from a couple car companies, and those were loans, that were paid back early..... I don't even know what the terms of said loans were. If the government MAKES money on anything at all, I would be truly amazed... that is just so out of character for them...... :D

Government can't turn a profit. They produce nothing, and are financed with tax dollars. They don't make one thin dime of the money that they spend. It's all other peoples. (tax payers.) For some reason, I just can't get comfy with a private business maintaining/in control of nukes. This is the same company that charges 600 dollars for a hammer, etc.... I will grant, that these are likely the very same people that built the weapons, and designed the support hardware/software for them, so, they would have a bit of a leg up on the military, but, not like the folks that did the building, are going to be the same folks that do the watching...... the builders are off working on bigger and better ways to wipe out cities.... the folks actually doing the work here are going to be folks that are trained by the company to do so..... kinda like the military before them. Difference being, the military is a LOT less concerned about turning a profit on the job........ I am really not sure what the best course is here.

Everyone has their view. :) On that, I will most certainly agree. Lisnpuppy put it quite well. Evidently, I do not always get my point across as well as I would like. @Kendo: I agree with your solution. That would be really nice. But, human nature tends to interfere with that..... For the most part, the folks here are rather opinionated.... big surprise there huh.. and I haven't met too many people that will happily admit they are wrong, especially on the internet. Also, for a fair few of the discussions here, (as that is more what they are, rather than debates....) "wrong" is rather nebulous. Whether you are wrong or not, is entirely a matter of perspective. I am sure the proponents of gun control believe they are right, as do the opponents. Of course, that is one of the topics that I suspect neither side is ever going to convince the other of whose position has more merit. I have zero desire to exclude anyone that wants to participate. The more the merrier. ESPECIALLY those that can present themselves in coherent manner, and back up what they say with facts, or legal precedent, or whatever the situation calls for at the time. In all reality, I would LOVE to see MORE folks contributing here. We have an extremely wide selection of folks, from many different walks of life, all with one common denominator, we are all gamers to one degree or another. So, we all have at least one thing in common. Perhaps we should concentrate more on that?

Quod erat demonstrandum... And here was me thinking that Debates was open to everyone who cared to post. You appear to be suggesting that there is some kind of clique of "folks that post on the Debates Forum" and that others don't have the right to come in and participate. Which kind of proves exactly what Kendo was saying. Thank You for misinterpreting that. Kendo has not been that active in the debates section until lately, that I have noticed.... When I DO see him posting, it is in this thread, handing out judgements like candy at a parade. Condemning the whole lot of folks that post here, with blanket statements, offering nothing in return as to solutions, or ways to mitigate the current situation. So, I ask a question. Why. I don't see where I have denied anyone anything here. Please do not read more into my posts, than what is actually IN my posts.

I think one is a bit more scary in principal. I blame scifi movies. It IS Hollywood's fault!!!!! Ok, I can go with that. :D

I am just kinda curious what it is you are attempting to accomplish here? Aside from alienating most of the folks that post on the Debates forum...... I have seen a lot of complaints, some have merit, some are simply painting everyone here with the same brush. What I HAVEN'T seen is, do you offer any solutions? Or, are you just coming in here to vent? Or is there something else on your mind?

And that right there is the BEST reason to become a premium member. :D

Those that simply express opinions, are generally called on it. Granted, this is NOT what I would really consider a 'debate' forum..... more like the argument clinic..... So, my question becomes, if you can't win, and you don't care for the way things are going here, and offer no solutions, why participate at all?

Yep, 'right at any cost'. This point has been brought up before and it always ends with someone posting something like 'I think what I think and therefore you are WRONG because you don't think way I think'. At one time people actually did debate here. They made factual statements and posted links and sometimes it was very informative. Now it is just a giant pissing contest dominated by opinion posters, pseudo-intellectuals and logic Nazis. At one time I could pick a topic I was interested in, read the posts, verify the facts and then do my own research before I posted. It really was like that at one time. Now I don't bother. The facts don't matter and now it boils down to what yammering baboon is the loudest. There have been attempts in the past to steer this section back to the way it was. They never work. There are members here who actually like things the way they are. They rule the school yard so why would they want to it change? And that's too bad, because it has driven away the solid debaters and left us with what you see now, a few debaters and a lot of uninformed and hostile opinion posters. Wow. Nice generalizations there.... You will have to excuse me if I am just a bit offended.....