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Erm, not to make a big deal of it... But when you're trying to prove anything with bar graphs, you really need to make sure that they are ALL on the same scale. If the scale is different for any one graph, the interpretation can be misleading. It is also not exactly fair to compare crime statistics between two dissimilar places. Washington DC during the late 80's and early 90's was one of the cities with the highest crime in the country (Chicago and Detroit weren't much better). If you have high crime you have high crime related deaths regardless what gun policy is in effect since criminals couldn't care less about the law. Also. Unless I'm missing something in the OP, the argument is not about handguns or similar personal defense weapons. The argument is about allowing civilian access to military grade assault rifles (okay, they usually have to be converted to semi-automatic to be legal, but anyone who knows their way around a gun and can order parts can revert that). Yes, there is lots of reactionary opinions on the matter because of yet another idiot, but unless I'm mistaken, most sane people do not walk around with an assault rifle clipped to their jacket when they go out for groceries, or keep one in the back seat of their car should they suddenly happen to find a herd of deer that they want to massacre. Yeah, these weapons are fun to shoot, and there is a growing gun culture out there that is all about finding or building all sorts of ridiculous weapons. But it is excessive and in many cases ineffective when it comes to personal defense. Even from the standpoint of "Taking back our country", do you honestly believe that even a small group of armed civilians would last more than a few days against the U.S. military unless there was some interest in reducing collateral damage or apprehending you? Yes, you can be a patriot. Yes, you can be deeply concerned about the future of the country. But in this situation, at best, wherever you are making a base will be a crater or perpetual cloud of tear gas (hope you can drink water through that gas mask), or you end up barricading yourself in some public place with hostages... and just succeed in making yourself look like a lunatic as even other patriots distance themselves from your actions. It just does not work in reality, and you either end up dead or locked up as a terrorist. Meanwhile the country continues to go to crap because you're more personally invested in some sort of fantasy about taking a stand, than actually taking a stand against government figures who are only out for their own personal gain. If the country actually worked like it should, there wouldn't be a need to "take it back", nor would there be a need to kill or hold innocent ( "there are no innocent people, there are only those who are with us, and everyone else is against us" and you wonder why people look at you like a psychopath) people. The graphs were simply to illustrate that banning guns, has little to no effect on gun related crimes. The criminals STILL have guns, and are still quite willing to use them. I am going to do something I hate here.... I am going to mince some terms... So, bear with me. Assault Rifle: Defined as being selective fire. (capable of firing more than one round per trigger pull) Assault Weapon: Semi-auto rifle BASED ON and assault rifle. Folks seem to mix and match the terms, but, no matter which they use, we know to what they are referring. Also, I would point out that rifles are used in a very small percentage of crimes. Assault weapons in even fewer. Assault weapons are not the weapons of choice among drug dealers, gang members or criminals in general. Assault weapons are used in about one-fifth of one percent (.20%) of all violent crimes and about one percent in gun crimes. It is estimated that from one to seven percent of all homicides are committed with assault weapons (rifles of any type are involved in three to four percent of all homicides). However a higher percentage are used in police homicides, roughly ten percent. Source. Folks seem to want to present them as a scourge on the populace, but, the statistics (sorry...) don't support that conclusion.

Perfectly understandable, I remember the allies criticising Saddam Hussein for putting missile systems in residential areas, seems it's fine for our government to do it. Saddam was expecting to be defending against a nation, one that would hesitate to pound missiles into a civilian area...... The Brits are attempting to defend against terrorist, that are only interested in crashing a plane somewhere interesting. To me, it seems kinda strange that you would want to shoot at something over civilian, heavily populated, areas in any event...... Unless they identify the offending aircraft as hostile a good distance out, the death toll is going to be pretty high whether they shoot it down, or, it actually crashes into its target. Lesser of two evils?

How are the first 2 graphs following the national trend and Florida and Texas aren't doing that very thing? Alone those graphs would show quite convincingly that banning carry or allowing weapon carry does next to nothing in each of those places> each individual city/state shown pretty much just follows the national trend in homicides. I'm not seeing any case being made that either one does much, considering each implementation of those rights are staggered on about an average of 7 years from each other and thus individually can't be suggesting that would directly affect the national trend. If the graph was doing something that was inverse to the national trend, or all state no/carry laws were brought in on a single year, perhaps then some sort of conclusion could be drawn. The fact that the laws changed, yet the locations still followed the national trend, should tell you that whether you ban them or not, makes no difference. The folks that use guns in the commission of a crime, aren't going to care that the illegal weapon they are carrying, while committing an illegal act.... is, in fact, illegal. The criminals STILL have the guns. Ban or no.

Your second paragraph there speaks directly to what I see is one of the major issues in this country. The whole "my party, right or wrong, but, MY party." mindset has ensured that nothing gets accomplished in congress, or pretty much anywhere else for that matter. The bitter partisan divide is readily apparent wherever you look on the net. I note that online editions of newspapers that allow comments on articles is a PRIME example of this. My party is right, the other party is a bunch of drooling idiots, that don't have a clue....... It's scarey....... and does not speak well for the future of this nation. Problem being, the politicians are CULTIVATING this divide, to their own benefit. (and the expense of the nation as a whole) I don't see that changing any time soon..... Truly unfortunate. Really wanna get scared? So much so that you have to laugh? Read some of the comments in the Rants and Raves section of Ann Arbor Craigslist........ THOSE folks REALLY worry me. As for the article referenced in the opening post....... I might give it a bit more credence if it wasn't so obviously slanted to the anti-gun side. His statistics are WAY over-blown, making his conclusions suspect as well. What's really funny is, some of the correlations of severely restrictive gun control laws, and crime in various locations. For instance, have a look at this chart, showing the murder rate in Washington DC. http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc-full.png Please note the handgun ban really didn't do a thing for the murder rate in DC. It spiked anyway. The general national trend of murder rate has been declining steadily in any event. How about Chicago? http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/chicago-full.png We see pretty much the same pattern here. Handguns are banned, there is an initial decline in murder rates, and then a serious spike..... followed by another decline, which also follows the national trend. And everyone remembers Florida, the Right to Carry, and Stand Your Ground? Well, how's this for an interesting tidbit: http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/florida-full.png Wow, would you look at that? Right to carry is enacted, and the murder rate plummets! Amazing. And Texas: http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/texas-full.png Wow, imagine that! Same trend....... Granted, the rates were on the way down in any event, but, where are all the murders that are supposed to come from everyone and their cousin being armed? Where are the shootouts on the streets? Mass Mayhem?? Could it be, that the folks that are actually LAW ABIDING CITIZENS obey the law? Wow. Whodathunkit. If you deprive honest citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, all your are doing is taking guns, and the protection they provide, away from the exact WRONG group you are attempting to target. Criminals, by their very definition are NOT "law abiding", banning anything isn't going to prevent them for possessing said item. In a society where the criminals are assured their victims are unarmed...... the criminals have the power. All information provided here, plus, a BOATLOAD more, is presented here.

Yep, that was it. :D Try setting it to -512, and see if that makes any difference.

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Well, I would also point out that we have the highest incarceration rate in the 'civilized' world as well.... We are still a fairly young country, as these things go..... in the early days, if you WEREN'T armed, all manner of things were out there that wanted to kill you for one reason or another... firearms were the best protection available. To a degree..... there was a LOT of territory, that civilization had never touched, at least, not what we would consider "modern" civilization at the time. It was a great wilderness. Going unarmed into it was a sure bet that you wouldn't be returning. The whole idea behind the 2nd amendment is the fault of the British. :D The goal was, to have an armed populace, that if the government got 'out of control', the people would have the ability to do something about it. We have three options, the Soap Box, the Ballot Box, and the Cartridge Box..... Seems that one didn't work out quite as planned though, as our government is certainly out of control, but, we all just sit on our duffs, pretend that it isn't really happening, and content ourselves with partisan bickering..... but, that's a topic for another thread. :D

Look in your oblivion.ini, in My Game\Oblivion. Find the setting FVerticalLODBias (or something like that.) What is that set to?

The trouble is, there are SO MANY guns in the US, simply outlawing them would only remove them from the hands of law abiding citizens. Unless of course, we wanted to have the army come in and do a house-to-house search, and confiscate all weapons...... I really don't think that would go over well..... Also, you are only looking at one minor aspect (ok, maybe not-so-minor in some places...) of the overall homicide rate...... Consider this: Homicide Rates per 100,000 population by region. North America: 4.7 Europe: 3.5 Next question would be, how many folks would have died had the legally armed shooter in your example NOT taken down the illegally armed shooter? Granted, folks dying no matter who shot them is never a good scene..... but, given my druthers, I would still rather be armed if someone started popping off rounds somewhere nearby.

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Jason should get his facts straight before he embarrasses himself in public like that. There are on average 35,000 deaths per year due to guns, and a significant percentage of those are suicides..... not the 100,000 he claims. Typical anti-gun sensationalism. I would also point out, that there are a couple different interpretations of the second amendment, the latest to be upheld was that the "right to keep and bear arms", and "a well regulated militia" were two distinct parts of the same clause.

Ok, so, apparently, he bought a ticket, went into the theater, went out thru an emergency exit, grabbed his stuff, and started killing. My question becomes, why aren't the "Emergency" exits alarmed? Or are they really convenience exits?? I can see things changing at theaters around the country from this..... Another question I have is, ONE person with a CCW, being in the theater, and armed, could have spared a lot of folks some pain. But, the theater is a 'gun free zone'........ Well, I got news for them, it's only "gun free" if you are a law abiding citizen. You know, the folks that actually GET permits to carry weapons?? Apparently, Joe Bad Guy doesn't respect the law..... and brought his guns anyway, to a place where he was pretty much assured of an unarmed crowd. So, the gun free zone actually HELPED the criminal. Wow. Imagine that.

I am REAL curious how this guy even got into the theater, considering the arsenal he was carrying.... an assault rifle with a 100 round drum magazine, a shotgun, and two pistols...... and someone sold him a ticket. WTF?

How many saves in the folder? How large are the files?

Is it always there when you are under water, or, does it show up after you pass a specific depth?

Might try grabbing OBSE, and CSE..... (construction set extender) See if that makes a difference. I do believe it alters the way the CS handles memory. I think.

Check permissions on your install directory, and also on the My Games\Oblivion directory. Make sure they aren't set to "read only". From what it looks like, it is trying to write to a file, but, is being denied. Gotta be a permissions error. Have you tried right-clicking on OBSE_Loader, and selecting "run as admin"?

Won't work. With our all-volunteer military we have now, we are still running short on soldiers for the field. Programs like "Stop-Loss", and extended tours of duty in warzones was the result. Our soldiers are already suffering from long, multiple deployments, and if we had fewer volunteer soldiers, and the draftee's were not to be deployed overseas.... it would only make the problem worse. Then why don't we stop deploying, minus the international US military bases we have, which is considered US territory. Well, for a time there, we had a couple wars going on..... we are down to one now.... more or less.... Quite frankly, I am of the opinion that we shouldn't have been in either country in any event. Iraq was not a threat, and we went to war based on lies, manipulation, and false information. We went to afghanistan ostensibly to get one guy.... but, seemed we enjoyed overthrowing legitimate governments so much, we wanted to do it again. Or, at least, some folks in government wanted to. The US needs to STOP playing at world police. We simply can't afford it, and honestly, we suck at it. Iraq is degenerating into a sectarian civil war..... and once we pull out of Afghanistan, it will go right back to what it was when we left..... with the addition of once again being the worlds largest exporter of opium.

Won't work. With our all-volunteer military we have now, we are still running short on soldiers for the field. Programs like "Stop-Loss", and extended tours of duty in warzones was the result. Our soldiers are already suffering from long, multiple deployments, and if we had fewer volunteer soldiers, and the draftee's were not to be deployed overseas.... it would only make the problem worse.

You can take a page out of some nut-job christians doom-saying handbook, and start a "fund" for "helping others after the fact", then, when it doesn't happen, retire on the proceeds. :D Regarding the nut-job Christians... Let's just not go there. Thanks. - Vagrant0

Try disabling any anti-malware apps running in the background before you play. If that makes ya nervous, disconnect from the net first. See if that doesn't help. If that doesn't work, might try posting in the OBSE thread on the official forums.

The exception code is a generic memory error. Probably some background task conflicting with the CS.

You are giving too much credit to politicians for "forward thinking".... They don't do that trick. I would also contend that when the demand for oil wanes, and all those countries whose very societies depend on that income start feeling the crunch, things are gonna get ugly as they start competing for the few remaining resources left..... I DO agree that we need to find alternatives to our oil-based economy...... unfortunately, our biggest demand for oil is in the transportation sector, and there just isn't a good alternative yet.

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