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...but not the individual's right to create. Somehow all mindsets are welcome and equal, but some midsets are more equal than others, eh? Individuals have every right to create. Individuals do not have the right to take and create on someone elses work without their permission because that is a violation of that other individual's rights to create and to their own creation. Essentially what you are saying is that not being allowed to steal is a violation of an individuals rights...yeah no, that fails on all levels. All mindsets are equal (as in people are entitled to their beliefs), when one mindset acts on an intolerance of another mindset is where we get the problems.

The mindset here is that all mindsets are welcome, and it protects that. Not being able to continue a piece of work without permission is following just that, respect for the individual's rights (and their beliefs) regarding their work. Seems to me that some campaign that everyone loose their rights (enforce cathedral), because someone might abuse their rights. That doesn't make sense at all, you may as well say that everyone should loose the right to drive a car because some abuse their right to drive by driving without due care.

Exactly! That is what is so great about this community, it is not made up of only people of one particular mindset, it caters to and welcomes everyone. The only problems that come are when one particular mindset cannot tolerate others and tries to force the entire community into it's way of thinking.

Nexus is NOT going to enforce anything on modders and could NOT enforce anything on modders. So you are out of luck there. Modders own their mods and the only one who can decide on commercial usage is Bethesda, because that particular right is signed away by modders when they use the CK. You try 'enforcing' anything on a large group of individuals you will get FAR less people uploading mods in the first place. Modders are not legally bound and forced to make mods, making mods is a choice and when that choice becomes adhere to draconian enforcements on your work against your will, then who would bother uploading... Whoops sorry double post.

People do have the right to their own opinions without being abused for it by those who do not share the opinion. In other words it crosses the line from 'expressing an opinion' to 'abuse of someone for their opinion' to throw insult on someone elses opinion or on someone else for their opinion. An utter misconception of 'free speech' held up as an excuse by people as they verbally abuse others. Free speech is not the right to abuse everyone else if they do not share your opinion, it is the right to have an opinion and not be abused for it. My point...EVERYONE is entitled to not be called 'silly' for what they think and feel.

You are entitled to your opinion. My point was that the use of the word 'silly' was somewhat rude. This community is made up of many different people with different ideas and they are entitled to those ideas and opinions when it comes to their work, without being called 'silly' for it, by those who disagree. I apologize, I looked through your mods and assumed that you had access. Well if you don't now, you will soon I am sure. :smile: You can 'principle' all you like, but only a court of law can decide whether or not it is 'Fair Use'. My point was to inform that the case was not as Mxr is portraying it, it is about violating the permissions given with the mod.

I saw those two posts...they were outright incredibly rude and aggressive towards a particular person (the mod author involved in this with Mxr) rather then adding anything constructive to the discussion. So you are not fooling anyone here with your accusations that the staff support one side of the issue. You have provided nothing solid to prove your stance, on the contrary you have yet to provide any kind of evidence that proves that Fair Use is something that can be applied willy nilly to whomever wants it and stands legally in that application, and NOT something that can only be defined by a court in each case and therefore is not a valid argument until proven in court. You have yet to acknowledge the fact that Mxr ignored the terms of use on the mod and that it was on this that he was challenged and backed down.

I looked at his mods before posting, pretty sure he does. Wow, you came in here with one mindset, to defend Mxr, refuse to listen to the other side of the story and leave with threats. Nexus hasn't done any such thing, you are not aware of the agenda that person has against Nexus itself and them taking every opportunity to poison people against Nexus. The owner here has every right to not welcome such behavior here. The mod author tried everything NOT to create trouble for Mxr, but Mxr outright refused to give some basic respect back to the very people whose work he makes his living from. Mxr has three times roused up his audience in an effort to make them go and get themselves banned from various sites, right now all this trouble IS on Mxr. He was the one that took it public with half stories about it, manipulating and purposely twistign the facts to keep the outrage going. There is NO court case. Despite Mxr's efforts to twist the facts, this whole thing was over and done with weeks ago. He had every opportunity to not get that strike and made a conscious choice to not have it removed. What 'image'!? You think mod authors care about some 'image'. Very few if any do. You can 'destroy' someones so called 'image' and still people download and use your mods. As one of the paid mod authors my download count hasn't dropped one bit, in fact it has gone up and I got far more efforts to 'boycott' me and ruin my 'image' then is going on with the mod author here. Mxr's subscriber count of which maybe half is active right now, are a drop in the ocean compared to the user count on Nexus. So no I hardly think Mxr's fans going on a rampage because they bought into his manipulation of them and the facts, would make a difference at all to the number of users downloading that author's mods.

Except that I was and am talking about this community's adherence to mod permissions, that is NOT 'newfangled', not the filing of DCMAs. Youtubers are mod users and they are NOT exempt from adhering to mod permissions. As yet you have provided no actual argument to support your points otherwise other then you don't think it should be. But it is...from a legal and moral point. You are entitled to your stance on your permissions regarding your work. It would be nice if you allowed other people to have their own views on what they want to do with their own work without referring to them as 'silly'.. On the contrary it has revealed a lot. For one that Youtube will respect a DMCA from a modder (after being shown proof of ownership). Read the threads in the mod author forum for detailed information on all of this, all your assumptions are already answered and where relevant disproven there.

No.

The Terms of Use stated on any software is NOT 'silly' and people who have that attitude find themselves facing situations like Mxr just did and loosing (by backing out), just like Mxr did. While the case did not go to court Mxr found himself facing a very real legal threat and had a wake up call. Mods are legally owned by the modders as is legally stated by Bethesda and modders have every right to set Terms of Use and downloaders ARE obligated legally to follow those regardless of what they might think and consider themselves entitled too. There is nothing 'newfangled' about it, this community has always expected users and other mod authors to adhere to the written permissions on mods and that has been the case for the last 12 years that I have been here. 'Fair Use' is something that must be defined by the court in each case, it is NOT a legitimate legal defense for taking and using copyrighted material. You cannot shout 'Fair Use' and expect the copyright holder to back off, you have to go to court and prove that your usage constitutes 'Fair Use' and good luck because there is no absolute legal definition of 'Fair Use'.

You are not listening to people tell you the FACTS of the case. Instead you are blindly following a Youtuber who set out to incite riot in this community because he considers himself above the basic rules that everyone else must follow. Mod users and mod authors alike are expected to follow the permissions stated by each mod author when downloading any mod, YouTubers are users when they download mods too and they MUST follow the permissions as everyone else. They are not exempt. One Youtuber decided he was and he has now learned that he is NOT. The mod author is NOT going to leave or be run out of this community. Mxr's users are a minuscule drop in the ocean of this community as verified when the owner of this site put up statistics showing just how little traffic comes from YouTube to Nexus.

Actually he already backed down from her lawyers. You need to get your facts straight on this whole thing and unfortunately Mxr is telling half a tale and omitting very important details. The most important point is that while he is purposely trying to make it seem like this is going on right now, this whole thing is over and done with. It was finished weeks ago. There is no threat of a court case for anyone to back down from because it already happened. As far as I understand it, Mxr had the choice many times to remove the strike on his channel and he chose not to risk his channel in going to court. Would he have won or she won, is not known and could not be stated either way. The only thing that is known is that she states that her lawyers and a Judge confirmed that she did have a very real case and the right to make a case. The other point that Mxr is failing to tell everyone is that the issue is that he ignored her permissions on her mod that stated that the mod was not to be used in YouTube videos, in particular monetized ones and when asked to respect them, outright refused to do so. Also, again as far as I understand it from the mod author herself, the mod author did not personally request an injunction against Mxr's channel, but that was part of the nature of the legal proceedings to ask for/impose one until the legal facts could be established. Having spoken to the mod author, from her side she made every effort NOT to affect Mxr's livelihood and channel, and gave him every option of an amicable resolution that would result in him not having a strike and just removing the clip of her work and re-uploading the video. He refused and at one point allegedly said 'see you in court'. When she started proceedings to do just that, he backed down. Two sides to the story, unfortunately Mxr is giving out less then half the story and inciting his followers to fill in the gaps themselves, get themselves all offended on Mxr's behalf and launch attack on the mod author.

The entire thing was an absolute shambles from start to finish, very few, if any of those mods won legitimately. You can hate on me on me all you want, it is the TRUTH. That thing was an absolute f' up of cheating and bull from start to finish. I was and am still disgusted by the whole thing and by the actions of many of the mod authors' involved. My respect for many of those involved reached an all new low.

You clearly don't like the way modders are given the right to handle their work here and have a problem with the way modders behave here as well, that goes outside and beyond the one particular experience you are complaining about. As evidenced in your many remarks above. Your comments come across quite aggressively in that regard. So whether or not you intended it, you really do come across as having a problem with the modders and their behavior here. I am not angry, I am providing the reasons why your 'offense' at the modders in general on this site is unwarranted. However I am not going to make judgement on the modder banning you in this specific case, I don't have all the facts. Was it fair...was it not fair..I don't know. All I know is that it was the modder's right to 'refuse service'. Really though at this point it is a moot point... Given that the complaints are against the existence of the feature itself, it is a clear indication that those people want it removed.

I agree that modders should be able to ban people from their mods, but when authors start getting carried away with it is when it becomes a problem. It's a knee jerk reaction. Mod authors that ban for ridiculous reasons should be investigated or intervened, is that not logical enough? Also, the minute we start classifying whose mods are worth more than the other in terms of how popular it is, who/what work was put into it, the time it took, is when a dark shadow of elitism is casted upon the modding community. We could agree that modding for beth-games is frustrating, and I'm also likely to respect someone who created a simplistic helmet as much as I'd respect someone making a collection of wearable items because of the effort they put in and the enthusiasm they had creating it. IMO putting aside all the OPs posts besides the initial, his comment on that mod is light compared to the top notch trolling i've read on other mods. It really boils down to what has been said over and over... No one has a 'right' to someone elses work. Nexus adheres to that and I certainly respect them for it. People come and complain about being banned from mods, but like people complaining about being banned from sites, more often then not they were banned for good reason... Yes there may have been unfair bans, but the vast majority of modders use the feature responsibly, so why should we all loose it because of a few.

You clearly have very little idea of what actually goes into a lot of mods, if that is your perception of mods. I have three YEARS put into one mod. Many others have put similar effort into their work. We do. Clearly you have a personal axe to grind here against modders, though you keep on and on about being one yourself.... What is utterly obvious is that you have zero idea what it is to be a modder that is constantly facing abuse by many users, over and over. We have lost serious talent because of the abuse that modders put up with, regardless of whether you believe it or not, it IS a fact. Shouting that modders should just 'suck it up' and take abuse is completely unreasonable and illogical. Why should they?...you have yet to answer that.... That has literally happened to modders, myself included. Fact is that you have provided no logical reason why modders should not be able to ban people from their mods, on the contrary you have demonstrated the very disrespectful and ungrateful attitude that is the very reason why we all do have the right to ban. At this point I can see just why that modder banned you.....

There is your answer right there. Why would you even do that? What is the point of going up to someone who is giving nice stuff away for free to everyone, and being rude. Not only that but being publicly rude. Except that there is, very much so. Why should modders tolerate rude, unappreciative people giving them harassment and abuse. Now at least we have an option to remove them, so that we don't have to deal with it anymore. Dealing with many rude and abusive people, over and over, time and again is very stressful and can wear people down, making what is supposed to be a fun hobby into a nightmare. Many modders have quit modding for this very reason. So now you will likely say... To which I reply...Why? They came into our mods and crapped all over us, why should we be forced to share our work with them when they have nothing but abuse to offer as 'thanks' for our hard work. Also, Premium membership does NOT give access to mods, it never has. It is about supporting the website.

Change your monitor screen resolution and see if that helps.

I am female and I only play FO4 in survival mode. Would not play it any other way. When they introduced survival it changed the entire way I play the game, it made me slow down and enjoy it far more. I wish they had introduced a survival mode when they released Skyrim SE.

Brilliant, thanks!

I want to use a vanilla mesh, but in a different category: 1) So I unpacked the mesh at meshes/markers/invisiblecollision 2) I create a new item in the CK in Containers and point to that mesh. 3) I go to upload the mod and when the Archive list comes up I remove the mesh from it. 4) So there is no Archive to upload, just the ESP. 5) Given that the mesh is a vanilla one and already present in the player's Skyrim BSAs (ie meshes/markers/invisiblecollision), will that mesh show up in their game when using the mod?

Nexus will not promote us Youtubers...period.

Awesome, it works perfectly now! Thanks!

Trying to make a bottle into a weapon so that an NPC can use it. I duplicated the silver sword and changed the model and the first person model to the ale bottle model, but the model doesn't appear in game when the NPC draws the weapon. Anyone got any ideas please?