Trying to understand

[showler]

 

I don't care.

You cared enough to copy your donation post into a separate thread in order to get more attention.

[HadToRegister]

 

When a creative content creater says "I dont care, use my work." They actually say, after years of struggling getting their work stolen, their rights violated, they started to force themselves to not care, to have some sort of peace. Don't be that person & abuse that desperation!

I doesn't matter if they don't care anymore. It matters that YOU care. Fill up that dried out well of recognition and respect. Help them feel important and valued again. Show them how it SHOULD be. Show them how it COULD be!

BE a positive in their world.

It doesn't matter what any TOS says, or that yet again another company just exploits them. It doesn't matter that entitled people yell, BUT THIS HAS TO BE FREE.

IT DOESNT MATTER!

YOUR own moral compass matters, and that YOU have the power to SHOW them,

I RESPECT YOU FULLY!

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That said - I am amazed how users and mod authors who think its absolutly fine that mod authors get their rights violated are throwing a tantrum or are in the wrong. And those users and mod authors completly dismiss that they reasoning comes from a place of emotion and subjective need. You actually don't approach this rational and objective. Yet you accuse mod authors who want the bare minimum, control over their content, tto be the drama queens, the emotional ones. Thou you are throwing a tantrum over a mod, that got deleted. Just to bring that into perspective here. Control over my own content, a valid and rational right and demand. There's a small little difference to e.g. twitter, facebook, twitch, they still provide real time delete and what you delete won't be available for public. I don't know why everyone is refusing to say that, when they bring their little comparison to those sites.

But the biggest issue is a retroactive change. Normally a change like that would mean, everything from the point of this new legal agreement will fall under it. Everything before, wont. This isn't the case here. Now I am on this world since 34 years and had my experience with companies, employers and all sorts of people. And never have I ever expirienced tthat a retroactive change was made to benefit anyone else than the company or the business. And because this is reailty and fact, we have laws. And they are really super strict about that. Because thats reality.

So you can say what you want about the intention of nexus, or if mod authors are right or wrong, or if you are right or wrong. The only discussion has to be about a retroactive change that is violating mod authors rightts. And practically gives a collecttion curator and nexus more rightts over a mod creatted, than the actual creator of a mod. (btw. my tt gets stuck, therefore its double, because as I made my pretty big and good eye mod, I f***ed my keyboard for you guys. My ctrl completly broke off, and my t is stuck. Because ctrl.+t was essential for the eyemod. Not that it interests you...you dont care about the mod author.) And it doesnt matter that you want your mods you love forever be THERE, this is your emotional problem you have. This has nothing to do with morals, ethics, laws and rights. I don't wanna do the dishwasher...seriously I don't. But I have to. I don't wanna pay groceries, I would love to just take the stuff, but thats not how this world works. And if you can't understand that this is not how the world works, that it doesn't only cater to your needs and wantings, then I sadly have to tell you, you need to learn that. Because my mods and my work, my property is not there so you can statisfy your need for constant availability for something.

I do understand itts hard to lose content. I did, too. Or I can't use something because it has closed permission. But I am an adult. I am reasonable. I accept it, I move on. Because that's the reasonable thing to do. People have the right to delete, to hide, to close permissions, to go inactive. It's simply their right, morally, ethically, and protected by laws as well. So as an adult, with reason and logic and empathy, I acceptt it. Maybe I don't like it. But sure, I dont like to do the dishwasher either. I still have to accept, I have to do it. I can't punsh on the table and yell: "BUT I WANT!" No matter what it means for anyone else: "BUT I WANT!" I mean sure, I can refuse tto make the dishes, but then the consequenc is, I have to eat from dirty dishes, or my flat soon looks pretty disgusting. The consequenc here is, you trample on mod authors rights, nexus tramples on mod authors rights. They don't have any other choice, then mod authors go. Because if you dont wanna make the dishes, I dont wanna stay in a dirty flat, thats for sure. "BUT I WANT!" - That's something 3 years old Justin does, while laying on the floor in the supermarket. And his mother can't because Justin really had enough chocolate, and the bills are a lot this month, and Justin's mother really have to count every coin. Justin's mother can't reason with him, because he doesn't understand the concept of reality and real world, and being an adult. But maybe you guys do. Nexus doesn't care for that, its pretty clear. So I wont even bother to address them. But maybe you modder or you mod autthor, you out there, maybe I make you think. Because for me, you are actually not just a number. You out there, you are a person.

What brings me to another thought - how old are you? I am so amazed by this. Like seriously...how old are people who really don't understand that retroactive changes are bad practice and denying a realtime delete and off public availability option is really dubious. And should always be a reason to have some sort of distrust and should be followed with actions that protects you from future "issues". This time it means, delete all the mods, and leave this site as a mod author.

And now to another thing. I see so often people saying that they want content to be always present. This demands from us the mod authors, that we, see you as a human. With your human needs, rights, feelings, wishes, thoughts. Yet you deny mod authors exactly this. We are as well humans with needs, rights, feelings, wishes and thoughts. We are NOT just a download, we are NOT just a mod, we are NOT here to satisfy your personal need and yours alone. This has to be said here. If you don't feel the solidarity, the wish, the morals to ensure that I am treated correct and as a human being, why should anyone give you that treatment back?

This discussion here isn't about TOS, rights, laws. Its about being a decent human being, having some empathy and morals. And having a correct moral compass. That's all what this is about. Nexus showed their moral compass isn't really correct, nor good. All of you who think its fine that mod authors lose their right of control, questionable moral compass.

So maybe....start to recalibrate.

 

 

 

^ +100

 

 

[maxmanatarms]

As someone taught me i will help and teach others. Go to your profile. Edit profile. Ignore preferences type WilsonBall and ignore post/sig/messages. I feel it will save us all time as we dont need to deal with a second "Texmex" in this thread.

@WilsonBall
Thanks for proving WilsonBall you dont really care and just want your "paid" site to do what you want regardless of whos rights is trampled on. GG.

[CrEaToXx]

 

 

When a creative content creater says "I dont care, use my work." They actually say, after years of struggling getting their work stolen, their rights violated, they started to force themselves to not care, to have some sort of peace. Don't be that person & abuse that desperation!

 

I doesn't matter if they don't care anymore. It matters that YOU care. Fill up that dried out well of recognition and respect. Help them feel important and valued again. Show them how it SHOULD be. Show them how it COULD be!

BE a positive in their world.

 

It doesn't matter what any TOS says, or that yet again another company just exploits them. It doesn't matter that entitled people yell, BUT THIS HAS TO BE FREE.

IT DOESNT MATTER!

YOUR own moral compass matters, and that YOU have the power to SHOW them,

I RESPECT YOU FULLY!

 

Yeah, that's what the church applied for century's. High moral compass, keeping the knowledge and content away from those that you pledge "unworthy", and a righteous crusade to serve a dried out well, that got burned up when a different church came around. No thanks.

 

I'm actually not despaired, and I actually don't care, because I know knowledge and progression evolves from past contributions. And the only period this didn't worked out of the box, was when the church was in charge.

[HadToRegister]

 

 

 

When a creative content creater says "I dont care, use my work." They actually say, after years of struggling getting their work stolen, their rights violated, they started to force themselves to not care, to have some sort of peace. Don't be that person & abuse that desperation!

 

I doesn't matter if they don't care anymore. It matters that YOU care. Fill up that dried out well of recognition and respect. Help them feel important and valued again. Show them how it SHOULD be. Show them how it COULD be!

BE a positive in their world.

 

It doesn't matter what any TOS says, or that yet again another company just exploits them. It doesn't matter that entitled people yell, BUT THIS HAS TO BE FREE.

IT DOESNT MATTER!

YOUR own moral compass matters, and that YOU have the power to SHOW them,

I RESPECT YOU FULLY!

 

Yeah, that's what the church applied for century's. High moral compass, keeping the knowledge and content away from those that you pledge "unworthy", and a righteous crusade to serve a dried out well. No thanks.

 

I'm actually not despaired, and I actually don't care, because I know knowledge and progression evolves from past contributions. And the only period this didn't worked out of the box, was when the church was in charge.

 

 

 

Man, you and your really, really, REALLY bad False Equivalencies just to stoke the flames.

 

LOL

 

[LeelooMinai]

 

 

 

When a creative content creater says "I dont care, use my work." They actually say, after years of struggling getting their work stolen, their rights violated, they started to force themselves to not care, to have some sort of peace. Don't be that person & abuse that desperation!

 

I doesn't matter if they don't care anymore. It matters that YOU care. Fill up that dried out well of recognition and respect. Help them feel important and valued again. Show them how it SHOULD be. Show them how it COULD be!

BE a positive in their world.

 

It doesn't matter what any TOS says, or that yet again another company just exploits them. It doesn't matter that entitled people yell, BUT THIS HAS TO BE FREE.

IT DOESNT MATTER!

YOUR own moral compass matters, and that YOU have the power to SHOW them,

I RESPECT YOU FULLY!

 

Yeah, that's what the church applied for century's. High moral compass, keeping the knowledge and content away from those that you pledge "unworthy", and a righteous crusade to serve a dried out well, that got burned up when a different church came around. No thanks.

 

I'm actually not despaired, and I actually don't care, because I know knowledge and progression evolves from past contributions. And the only period this didn't worked out of the box, was when the church was in charge.

 

 

You are aware, that nexus is the church, your comparison diesnt make sense. As I said...you guys need to seriously recalibrate. Like A LOT! I had this discussion like here so often in my life about so many things. And it's always the same strange logic, and as a reasonable person, all you can do is shake your head.

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[insert several quotes from disgruntled MAs]

 

I don't care.

that is a shameful response.

 

just so you know, vortex support - where you posted looking for help because you couldn't do the most basic thing - and i replied at length on how to do it - but you baled out because you lack the ability comprehend? that's the last time i'll help you.

 

you're added to the list of entitled, but utterly clueless trolls who can barely turn on their PC. You are the demographic nexusmods want and you deserve each other.

[HeyYou]

 

[insert several quotes from disgruntled MAs]

 

I don't care.

that is a shameful response.

 

just so you know, vortex support - where you posted looking for help because you couldn't do the most basic thing - and i replied at length on how to do it - but you baled out because you lack the ability comprehend? that's the last time i'll help you.

 

you're added to the list of entitled, but utterly clueless trolls who can barely turn on their PC. You are the demographic nexusmods want and you deserve each other.

 

Ya know, reading that last line was a shocker.... Mainly because, that is 100% spot on. These are the folks Nexus is catering to...... And mod authors are supposed to be happy about that??? Seriously????

[showler]

 

Ya know, reading that last line was a shocker.... Mainly because, that is 100% spot on. These are the folks Nexus is catering to...... And mod authors are supposed to be happy about that??? Seriously????

Not seriously. Nexus is looking to attract the unskilled (and possibly even the inept). But being this big a jerk is not part of what they are looking for. Going forward they will end up being swept out, same as in the past.

[Druuler]

[insert several quotes from disgruntled MAs]

 

I don't care.

I think what you mean to say is that you do not care about anything other than yourself. As long as it works how you want it to, then that is all that matters. There are a few words to describe people like that, with selfish and entitled coming to mind first. "I don't care" is also a phrase used by people that are tired of others pushing back against how they want things to be, and realize that they cannot win that particular battle.