Modding in the Witcher 3 Next-Gen Update

[hoots7]

In response to post #119140678. #119166408, #119170528, #119177498, #119178018, #119179983 are all replies on the same post.

pianopirate wrote:
I guess people that are Happy about this update don't really mod their game too much.
   My Experience is Horrible. I was playing a game I had been working on for a long time. Finally, everything was running smoothly. Hardly ever a CTD. I was actually enjoying the scenery and the seemingly built-in LOD. I'm usually so busy playing and hoping mods don't crash and hoping it's all working that I hardly ever take too much time to enjoy the surroundings. Almost every day I played I kept coming to the conclusion that this game was indeed a Masterpiece, no matter what little flaws were present. None of those bothered me anymore. Just seemed like part of the game after all these years. i don't know why devs forget that mods are the only thing that keeps these games playable for years and years after the Hype goes away. But I also hear people saying that CDPR really cares about modders. I'm still conflicted about that rumor.
     Hearing about the Update I was very surprised that a GOTY game was being updated. Never heard of that before, Has that ever happened before? And when I saw Ray Tracing (The same Devil that screwed up mods for Resident Evil Remakes 2 & 3 which I had recently modded) I knew beyond a doubt that it would screw EVERYTHING up.
     So, I proceeded to backup the game folder and Mods folder. Turned off Steam Auto-Update (well, you can only tell it to only update at launch) and also left it on "Never Allow Background Downloads". But stupid me, I didn't think to play OffLine.
    Then, I'm playing my smooth modded game on Dec 13th. All of a sudden CTD....and there it was ...The Update from Hell Ruining all my Fun in moments. None of the precautions worked. They Got Me.!
    Of coarse I immediately tried overwritng with my Backup files. Thought I was real smart. Failure guaranteed. Next, I roll back like they let you do with Resident Evil Remakes. Plenty of waiting. No go for Mods because while the game runs ver 1.32, you still get a bunch of extra files  from Next Gen. The essential mod that rolls back 1.32 to 1.31 wouldn't work so NO MODS.
   Next I remembered reading that GOG lets you roll back to older versions. But nobody mentioned that you can only go back one version. So I buy the game for a third time (I played it on Playstation first) to find out I can only get v 1.32. And wouldn't you know it? The rollback Mod was only made for Steam versions Exactly because GOG lets you rollback. Another Failure.
   GoG has a way to download offline installers to play without someone watching over your shoulder. I saw that the last file was an update for 1.31 to 1.32. Ignorance told me if I didn't run it I would end up with V 1.31. No, No, No! You end up with 4.0 even offline and still a bunch of Next Gen files and that stinkin' pre-launcher. Another massive Failure and a waste of two days downloading useless files.
    So, I'm back on Steam with rollback Classic 1.32. Trying to make it work but after all the prepping--rollback to 1.31.+ASi Loader +Mod Limit Adjuster +Community Patch +Load Order Config.....Launch Game, get CDPR Red Screen that checks Scripts. They seem to compile without errors. But then you launch the game again and nothing happens except  thumb twiddling.
    So I have no choice but to swallow the Shove-It-Down-Your-Throat-Forced Update  and start modding the game from scratch. BUT, now there are no modding tutorials for 4.0 and a lot of the mods I use most likely won't be updated. So my only real choice is go play another game so I can cool off and just keep waiting for a 4.0 Modding Tutorial which I was searching for and ended up on this Page.
   FREE Update you say? The cost is your Game out the window and there's no getting it back.. Wish they would have charged money then we'd be alright. Or learn from Bethesda (Skyrim or SSE) and offer a free W3 Remastered or Witcher 3 SSE free to game owners then sell it to next Gen Consoles which is really the ultimate goal here Don't you like the way they think everybody owns a next gen computer? I tried playing 4.0 at the beginning in Kaer Morhen and the frame rate went out the window. Awful stuttering and didn't really see anything looking better than what I had modded. On top of everything else, they force Integrated mods on me that I would NEVER use because modding is very personal and indidvidual. Also if I buy an old game I want the OLD Game not the next gen. I played Skyrim on PS3 and SSE on PS4. When I finally got a computer and started modding I chose Skyrim so I would Never fear Updates. I exclusively buy old games for modding for that very reason.
   Have no use for God Rays or Ray Tracing or Photo Mode (have no idea how to shoot photos of any of my games) or mods forced on me. This is now a Different game and should have been sold as such. I feel like I lost my best friend or somebody died. Disappointed doesn't cover it.
If CDPR put out a Witcher 3 Game (NO NEXT GEN FILES) that only contained the Original version 1.31 and can actually be played on STEAM right now, I would pay again 50/60 dollars for it.  Matter of fact, I would pay DOUBLE to get my game back.
Really feels like Death in the air. The fact that a Video Game can affect me this much is very concerning. Maybe I should quit Gaming out of fear of Addiction. I give UP!! Modding is Wonderful and Wicked simultaneously. Conundrum?

Ekinn0x wrote: Totally agree with you...
Some people spend thousands of hours to make a stable version of 100-200+ mods game, that is just broken here... and can't revert properly. It's like when Skyrim SE coming, I have to wait like 2 years before coming back to because mod community is still present, but here on TW3, the best mod will never see update anymore.. :'(

trinityspirit95 wrote: There is a way to change to version 1.32 by right clicking Witcher 3 in your Steam library. Then selecting Properties -> Betas -> Opt in to Classic Patch v1.32 from the dropdown menu. I got my mod setup working again by doing that. But I needed to reinstall each mod again one by one. I may just stay on v1.32 classic as going back and checking if each mod got updated gets tedious.

enters3thirds wrote: On the GOG website there is an "EXTRAS" column next to "DOWNLOAD OFFLINE BACKUP GAME INSTALLERS" which used to be the place to put manuals, wallpapers, etc, but now roll down to the bottom you'll find "Witcher 3 GOTY Classic (1.32) Part1 - Part10" under "Goodies pack (italian)". Although its name says "1.32", I believe if you download them and don't run the "Patch (1.31 to 1.32)" exe file under the "DOWNLOAD OFFLINE BACKUP GAME INSTALLERS" column you'll get game version 1.31. Just a guess based on my previous installing experience, havn't been tested.
Sorry for my poor English, I'm not a native speaker. Hope it's helpful to you.

LiloLila wrote: Ok, this "beta > clasic 1.32" option wasn't there before. I just hope they wont remove this option in the futur.

Clw6Cuba wrote: Unfortunate but stopping steam from auto downloading is very simple. You can set at specific time slot for it to update and it will ONLY update during that time slot (5-6 am when your pc is always off for example). This way every auto update is in your hands to manually update or ignore as you want.  Lesson learned I guess, and really, if you're going to spend so much time modding and fine tuning a game it might be a good idea to learn the best way to fireguard it.

My game won't even start now :(

[KamilM227]

In response to post #119140678. #119166408, #119170528, #119177498, #119178018, #119179983, #119187848 are all replies on the same post.

pianopirate wrote:
I guess people that are Happy about this update don't really mod their game too much.
   My Experience is Horrible. I was playing a game I had been working on for a long time. Finally, everything was running smoothly. Hardly ever a CTD. I was actually enjoying the scenery and the seemingly built-in LOD. I'm usually so busy playing and hoping mods don't crash and hoping it's all working that I hardly ever take too much time to enjoy the surroundings. Almost every day I played I kept coming to the conclusion that this game was indeed a Masterpiece, no matter what little flaws were present. None of those bothered me anymore. Just seemed like part of the game after all these years. i don't know why devs forget that mods are the only thing that keeps these games playable for years and years after the Hype goes away. But I also hear people saying that CDPR really cares about modders. I'm still conflicted about that rumor.
     Hearing about the Update I was very surprised that a GOTY game was being updated. Never heard of that before, Has that ever happened before? And when I saw Ray Tracing (The same Devil that screwed up mods for Resident Evil Remakes 2 & 3 which I had recently modded) I knew beyond a doubt that it would screw EVERYTHING up.
     So, I proceeded to backup the game folder and Mods folder. Turned off Steam Auto-Update (well, you can only tell it to only update at launch) and also left it on "Never Allow Background Downloads". But stupid me, I didn't think to play OffLine.
    Then, I'm playing my smooth modded game on Dec 13th. All of a sudden CTD....and there it was ...The Update from Hell Ruining all my Fun in moments. None of the precautions worked. They Got Me.!
    Of coarse I immediately tried overwritng with my Backup files. Thought I was real smart. Failure guaranteed. Next, I roll back like they let you do with Resident Evil Remakes. Plenty of waiting. No go for Mods because while the game runs ver 1.32, you still get a bunch of extra files  from Next Gen. The essential mod that rolls back 1.32 to 1.31 wouldn't work so NO MODS.
   Next I remembered reading that GOG lets you roll back to older versions. But nobody mentioned that you can only go back one version. So I buy the game for a third time (I played it on Playstation first) to find out I can only get v 1.32. And wouldn't you know it? The rollback Mod was only made for Steam versions Exactly because GOG lets you rollback. Another Failure.
   GoG has a way to download offline installers to play without someone watching over your shoulder. I saw that the last file was an update for 1.31 to 1.32. Ignorance told me if I didn't run it I would end up with V 1.31. No, No, No! You end up with 4.0 even offline and still a bunch of Next Gen files and that stinkin' pre-launcher. Another massive Failure and a waste of two days downloading useless files.
    So, I'm back on Steam with rollback Classic 1.32. Trying to make it work but after all the prepping--rollback to 1.31.+ASi Loader +Mod Limit Adjuster +Community Patch +Load Order Config.....Launch Game, get CDPR Red Screen that checks Scripts. They seem to compile without errors. But then you launch the game again and nothing happens except  thumb twiddling.
    So I have no choice but to swallow the Shove-It-Down-Your-Throat-Forced Update  and start modding the game from scratch. BUT, now there are no modding tutorials for 4.0 and a lot of the mods I use most likely won't be updated. So my only real choice is go play another game so I can cool off and just keep waiting for a 4.0 Modding Tutorial which I was searching for and ended up on this Page.
   FREE Update you say? The cost is your Game out the window and there's no getting it back.. Wish they would have charged money then we'd be alright. Or learn from Bethesda (Skyrim or SSE) and offer a free W3 Remastered or Witcher 3 SSE free to game owners then sell it to next Gen Consoles which is really the ultimate goal here Don't you like the way they think everybody owns a next gen computer? I tried playing 4.0 at the beginning in Kaer Morhen and the frame rate went out the window. Awful stuttering and didn't really see anything looking better than what I had modded. On top of everything else, they force Integrated mods on me that I would NEVER use because modding is very personal and indidvidual. Also if I buy an old game I want the OLD Game not the next gen. I played Skyrim on PS3 and SSE on PS4. When I finally got a computer and started modding I chose Skyrim so I would Never fear Updates. I exclusively buy old games for modding for that very reason.
   Have no use for God Rays or Ray Tracing or Photo Mode (have no idea how to shoot photos of any of my games) or mods forced on me. This is now a Different game and should have been sold as such. I feel like I lost my best friend or somebody died. Disappointed doesn't cover it.
If CDPR put out a Witcher 3 Game (NO NEXT GEN FILES) that only contained the Original version 1.31 and can actually be played on STEAM right now, I would pay again 50/60 dollars for it.  Matter of fact, I would pay DOUBLE to get my game back.
Really feels like Death in the air. The fact that a Video Game can affect me this much is very concerning. Maybe I should quit Gaming out of fear of Addiction. I give UP!! Modding is Wonderful and Wicked simultaneously. Conundrum?

Ekinn0x wrote: Totally agree with you...
Some people spend thousands of hours to make a stable version of 100-200+ mods game, that is just broken here... and can't revert properly. It's like when Skyrim SE coming, I have to wait like 2 years before coming back to because mod community is still present, but here on TW3, the best mod will never see update anymore.. :'(

trinityspirit95 wrote: There is a way to change to version 1.32 by right clicking Witcher 3 in your Steam library. Then selecting Properties -> Betas -> Opt in to Classic Patch v1.32 from the dropdown menu. I got my mod setup working again by doing that. But I needed to reinstall each mod again one by one. I may just stay on v1.32 classic as going back and checking if each mod got updated gets tedious.

enters3thirds wrote: On the GOG website there is an "EXTRAS" column next to "DOWNLOAD OFFLINE BACKUP GAME INSTALLERS" which used to be the place to put manuals, wallpapers, etc, but now roll down to the bottom you'll find "Witcher 3 GOTY Classic (1.32) Part1 - Part10" under "Goodies pack (italian)". Although its name says "1.32", I believe if you download them and don't run the "Patch (1.31 to 1.32)" exe file under the "DOWNLOAD OFFLINE BACKUP GAME INSTALLERS" column you'll get game version 1.31. Just a guess based on my previous installing experience, havn't been tested.
Sorry for my poor English, I'm not a native speaker. Hope it's helpful to you.

LiloLila wrote: Ok, this "beta > clasic 1.32" option wasn't there before. I just hope they wont remove this option in the futur.

Clw6Cuba wrote: Unfortunate but stopping steam from auto downloading is very simple. You can set at specific time slot for it to update and it will ONLY update during that time slot (5-6 am when your pc is always off for example). This way every auto update is in your hands to manually update or ignore as you want.  Lesson learned I guess, and really, if you're going to spend so much time modding and fine tuning a game it might be a good idea to learn the best way to fireguard it.

hoots7 wrote: My game won't even start now :(

New update broke my game so I reinstall and remove all the mods currently I'm playing with some texture mods that works fine but most of the mods doesn't work I  hope modders find the solution to fix the modding problems of the new  witcher version

[rdr2rdr2]

Hello, I got problem with modding now, after next gen update I uncooked all files with w3 oven but when I want export files to edit mesh always folder is empty and there is communicate like this

 

ScriptCallstack

 

     EMPTY

 

================================================================

 

Game

 

 

================================================================

 

RedMemory

 

 

================================================================

 

 

 

 

 

INFO --- Export Done!

 

Whats going on?

[guyo83]

In response to post #119140678. #119166408, #119170528, #119177498, #119178018, #119179983, #119187848, #119188638 are all replies on the same post.

pianopirate wrote:
I guess people that are Happy about this update don't really mod their game too much.
   My Experience is Horrible. I was playing a game I had been working on for a long time. Finally, everything was running smoothly. Hardly ever a CTD. I was actually enjoying the scenery and the seemingly built-in LOD. I'm usually so busy playing and hoping mods don't crash and hoping it's all working that I hardly ever take too much time to enjoy the surroundings. Almost every day I played I kept coming to the conclusion that this game was indeed a Masterpiece, no matter what little flaws were present. None of those bothered me anymore. Just seemed like part of the game after all these years. i don't know why devs forget that mods are the only thing that keeps these games playable for years and years after the Hype goes away. But I also hear people saying that CDPR really cares about modders. I'm still conflicted about that rumor.
     Hearing about the Update I was very surprised that a GOTY game was being updated. Never heard of that before, Has that ever happened before? And when I saw Ray Tracing (The same Devil that screwed up mods for Resident Evil Remakes 2 & 3 which I had recently modded) I knew beyond a doubt that it would screw EVERYTHING up.
     So, I proceeded to backup the game folder and Mods folder. Turned off Steam Auto-Update (well, you can only tell it to only update at launch) and also left it on "Never Allow Background Downloads". But stupid me, I didn't think to play OffLine.
    Then, I'm playing my smooth modded game on Dec 13th. All of a sudden CTD....and there it was ...The Update from Hell Ruining all my Fun in moments. None of the precautions worked. They Got Me.!
    Of coarse I immediately tried overwritng with my Backup files. Thought I was real smart. Failure guaranteed. Next, I roll back like they let you do with Resident Evil Remakes. Plenty of waiting. No go for Mods because while the game runs ver 1.32, you still get a bunch of extra files  from Next Gen. The essential mod that rolls back 1.32 to 1.31 wouldn't work so NO MODS.
   Next I remembered reading that GOG lets you roll back to older versions. But nobody mentioned that you can only go back one version. So I buy the game for a third time (I played it on Playstation first) to find out I can only get v 1.32. And wouldn't you know it? The rollback Mod was only made for Steam versions Exactly because GOG lets you rollback. Another Failure.
   GoG has a way to download offline installers to play without someone watching over your shoulder. I saw that the last file was an update for 1.31 to 1.32. Ignorance told me if I didn't run it I would end up with V 1.31. No, No, No! You end up with 4.0 even offline and still a bunch of Next Gen files and that stinkin' pre-launcher. Another massive Failure and a waste of two days downloading useless files.
    So, I'm back on Steam with rollback Classic 1.32. Trying to make it work but after all the prepping--rollback to 1.31.+ASi Loader +Mod Limit Adjuster +Community Patch +Load Order Config.....Launch Game, get CDPR Red Screen that checks Scripts. They seem to compile without errors. But then you launch the game again and nothing happens except  thumb twiddling.
    So I have no choice but to swallow the Shove-It-Down-Your-Throat-Forced Update  and start modding the game from scratch. BUT, now there are no modding tutorials for 4.0 and a lot of the mods I use most likely won't be updated. So my only real choice is go play another game so I can cool off and just keep waiting for a 4.0 Modding Tutorial which I was searching for and ended up on this Page.
   FREE Update you say? The cost is your Game out the window and there's no getting it back.. Wish they would have charged money then we'd be alright. Or learn from Bethesda (Skyrim or SSE) and offer a free W3 Remastered or Witcher 3 SSE free to game owners then sell it to next Gen Consoles which is really the ultimate goal here Don't you like the way they think everybody owns a next gen computer? I tried playing 4.0 at the beginning in Kaer Morhen and the frame rate went out the window. Awful stuttering and didn't really see anything looking better than what I had modded. On top of everything else, they force Integrated mods on me that I would NEVER use because modding is very personal and indidvidual. Also if I buy an old game I want the OLD Game not the next gen. I played Skyrim on PS3 and SSE on PS4. When I finally got a computer and started modding I chose Skyrim so I would Never fear Updates. I exclusively buy old games for modding for that very reason.
   Have no use for God Rays or Ray Tracing or Photo Mode (have no idea how to shoot photos of any of my games) or mods forced on me. This is now a Different game and should have been sold as such. I feel like I lost my best friend or somebody died. Disappointed doesn't cover it.
If CDPR put out a Witcher 3 Game (NO NEXT GEN FILES) that only contained the Original version 1.31 and can actually be played on STEAM right now, I would pay again 50/60 dollars for it.  Matter of fact, I would pay DOUBLE to get my game back.
Really feels like Death in the air. The fact that a Video Game can affect me this much is very concerning. Maybe I should quit Gaming out of fear of Addiction. I give UP!! Modding is Wonderful and Wicked simultaneously. Conundrum?

Ekinn0x wrote: Totally agree with you...
Some people spend thousands of hours to make a stable version of 100-200+ mods game, that is just broken here... and can't revert properly. It's like when Skyrim SE coming, I have to wait like 2 years before coming back to because mod community is still present, but here on TW3, the best mod will never see update anymore.. :'(

trinityspirit95 wrote: There is a way to change to version 1.32 by right clicking Witcher 3 in your Steam library. Then selecting Properties -> Betas -> Opt in to Classic Patch v1.32 from the dropdown menu. I got my mod setup working again by doing that. But I needed to reinstall each mod again one by one. I may just stay on v1.32 classic as going back and checking if each mod got updated gets tedious.

enters3thirds wrote: On the GOG website there is an "EXTRAS" column next to "DOWNLOAD OFFLINE BACKUP GAME INSTALLERS" which used to be the place to put manuals, wallpapers, etc, but now roll down to the bottom you'll find "Witcher 3 GOTY Classic (1.32) Part1 - Part10" under "Goodies pack (italian)". Although its name says "1.32", I believe if you download them and don't run the "Patch (1.31 to 1.32)" exe file under the "DOWNLOAD OFFLINE BACKUP GAME INSTALLERS" column you'll get game version 1.31. Just a guess based on my previous installing experience, havn't been tested.
Sorry for my poor English, I'm not a native speaker. Hope it's helpful to you.

LiloLila wrote: Ok, this "beta > clasic 1.32" option wasn't there before. I just hope they wont remove this option in the futur.

Clw6Cuba wrote: Unfortunate but stopping steam from auto downloading is very simple. You can set at specific time slot for it to update and it will ONLY update during that time slot (5-6 am when your pc is always off for example). This way every auto update is in your hands to manually update or ignore as you want.  Lesson learned I guess, and really, if you're going to spend so much time modding and fine tuning a game it might be a good idea to learn the best way to fireguard it.

hoots7 wrote: My game won't even start now :(

KamilM227 wrote: New update broke my game so I reinstall and remove all the mods currently I'm playing with some texture mods that works fine but most of the mods doesn't work I  hope modders find the solution to fix the modding problems of the new  witcher version

The hud in the update is still cluttered horse s#*!, I'm pissed the friendly hud mod does not work anymore.

[albertpetre94]

In response to post #119174458.

Loveblanket wrote: The game is broken on PC. Crashes, audio glitches, textures stretch to the sky in areas, the water doesn't render, the RTX is a frame rate killer even with a good graphics card, there are multiple bugs throughout even the opening areas that weren't even in the original version. It's a disaster and after Cyberpunk it's amazing that this broken mess isn't being talked about more. It's a joke.

Try to play on the dx11 version, not on dx12.

[nicksalz86]

I too am having issues, I can only use ultra settings not the ultra plus and I can't even get close to using ray tracing without having my came slowing way down I even updated my drivers like CDPR said we should and it only made small difference. It makes up upset that I had to loose some really great immersive mods for a feature like ray tracing that I can't use it just turns my smile upside down. Anyway is there a kind modder out there willing to update the complete animations mod? I love to see Geralt drink a potions before a battle, they show him kind of picking plants and what not but not him drinking anything that came from it if there is someone out there who can help with this I would be really greatfull.

 

[GameOfThongs]

In response to post #119341608.

nicksalz86 wrote: I too am having issues, I can only use ultra settings not the ultra plus and I can't even get close to using ray tracing without having my came slowing way down I even updated my drivers like CDPR said we should and it only made small difference. It makes up upset that I had to loose some really great immersive mods for a feature like ray tracing that I can't use it just turns my smile upside down. Anyway is there a kind modder out there willing to update the complete animations mod? I love to see Geralt drink a potions before a battle, they show him kind of picking plants and what not but not him drinking anything that came from it if there is someone out there who can help with this I would be really greatfull.

Roll Back to 1.32   Thats what I did.. 

[AndrewWisdom007]

People, please update the Kill Them All mod. It was a great mod, but it no longer works with a Next-gen update.

Thid this mod can be much more convenient than mods for loot, money, etc.

 

(link for old mod)

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/2539

[nicksalz86]

Hey fellow witchers! I thought of something that may help your game not studder so much and I'm sure alot of you may have already thought of this I could just be a day late and a dollar short on this but if you reduce the number of background characters to medium that may help and I hope it does help you guys and gals and like I said a lot of you may have already thought of this but anyway just an idea and good luck on the path!

[haroldus245]

May I add the mod "weapons and armor scaling" to the incompatible section, tried it and its not compiling properly. thank you Nexus mods for the information for the next gen update compatible list, it helped a lot.