Publisher-Approved Paid Modding Policy

[SigurdStormhand]

6 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

No but at least they try to figure ways to get them paid by allowing us to post Patreon and Ko-Fi links so to get tips directly, and/or by the points system that can be redeemed for a number of things including cashing out with Paypal.
I'm sorry but in my book that beats the hell out of only get 30% and then make it more difficult as you can't use any other tools only the Beth assets and CC for it.

Verified Creations is something you have to apply for, and by all accounts it's better compensation than Nexus offers via DP. It's also totally transparent and predictable.

[elpuertorro]

15 minutes ago, FrumpyBadger said:

Assuming this is actually the case (which I have no reason to doubt) it would have cost Nexus leadership absolutely nothing to make it clear as such in this very statement. The fact that they haven't and have chosen to position it as being the most "consumer friendly" option, while in the same breath painting modders who participate in programs whereby they receive compensation for their work as crossing some kind of 'picket line', raises an eyebrow.

They don't need to, the same way I already new because I read it when  Bethesda made the official announcement of the program,  is the same way you or anyone can do a quick google search with "Verified Creator program" read it see it with your own eyes and not have to guess, what or why is this person saying that or this, as you might recognize this next phrase, but it holds so true "Knowing is half the battle"  so if you don't know, you are bound to make mistakes or bad decisions for lack of knowledge.

[Djlegends]

well we can always go to AFK mods...

[FrumpyBadger]

2 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

They don't need to, the same way I already new because I read it when  Bethesda made the official announcement of the program,  is the same way you or anyone can do a quick google search with "Verified Creator program" read it see it with your own eyes and not have to guess, what or why is this person saying that or this, as you might recognize this next phrase, but it holds so true "Knowing is half the battle"  so if you don't know, you are bound to make mistakes or bad decisions for lack of knowledge.

As someone who was operating with incomplete knowledge of the situation, I was willing to engage with you in good faith as a member of the community until you took this tone. In general it's worth considering that people will be more receptive to your argument if you hold the attitude.

Regardless, it's clear from responses from other posters that the system as announced in the past is not the same in execution as of the present; perhaps it's you who could benefit from doing a little more Googling before posting.

[showler]

The only point of the "no dependencies" rule was so that nobody would buy a Creation and find out that it wouldn't work because it needed another paid Creation or some other mod that the buyer has never heard of.

It has no bearing whatsoever on free patches that might need a paid Creation.  There is no reason for them to restrict that and they literally have NEVER had such a rule.

[Arthmoor]

47 minutes ago, Czasior said:

They can't provide any patches due to Bethesda Verified Creations rules.

Actually we can, so long as they're free. Bethesda has done nothing to discourage the creation of compatibility patches as long as all of the authors involved agree to allow it.

[Djlegends]

2 minutes ago, showler said:

The only point of the "no dependencies" rule was so that nobody would buy a Creation and find out that it wouldn't work because it needed another paid Creation or some other mod that the buyer has never heard of.

It has no bearing whatsoever on free patches that might need a paid Creation.  There is no reason for them to restrict that and they literally have NEVER had such a rule.

finally somebody with an active braincell working don't know wtf  the other person talking about

[elpuertorro]

3 minutes ago, SigurdStormhand said:

Verified Creations is something you have to apply for, and by all accounts it's better compensation than Nexus offers via DP. It's also totally transparent and predictable.

So then why not offer the split the other way around 70% creator/ 30% for them? is not like they need to pay for anything and it's all profit for them, so why not do that? if they REALLY CARE that's how they would have gone or at least even 50/50, but ok I guess you have the experience with Nexus right so you can actually talk facts... oh wait... hmm sorry but... you have no experience with the point system, and  my bad but I don't think you are qualified to talk about  how the points work as you have not had the opportunity of having the experience with it, so not putting you down or an insult just straight up facts, no experience with it,so how can you speak of it same goes for the verified program you in it? what was the offer for you, what was the split going to be
Let's see how does the point system here work vs verified what are the differences? I'm goiung to have dinner so that should give you planty of time to list out the differences of how they work as and i quote "It's also totally transparent and predictable" so i'm sure you going to have an answer with numbers to compare for me, so I can look dumb and stupid and have to shut up and leave this conversation.
Be back like in 1hr looking forward to the comparison.

[Kant3n]

6 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

So then why not offer the split the other way around 70% creator/ 30% for them? is not like they need to pay for anything and it's all profit for them, so why not do that? if they REALLY CARE that's how they would have gone or at least even 50/50, but ok I guess you have the experience with Nexus right so you can actually talk facts... oh wait... hmm sorry but... you have no experience with the point system, and  my bad but I don't think you are qualified to talk about  how the points work as you have not had the opportunity of having the experience with it, so not putting you down or an insult just straight up facts, no experience with it,so how can you speak of it same goes for the verified program you in it? what was the offer for you, what was the split going to be

This reads like a wall of Tim Sweeney ranting about Steam again.

[Arthmoor]

6 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

So then why not offer the split the other way around 70% creator/ 30% for them?

Without going into specifics (not sure if it would violate NDA or not) I can tell you firsthand that it's not a 70/30 split in favor of Bethesda. That's the split you see in places like the Google or Apple Stores and nobody seems to have an issue with that. Bethesda's is much more fair, and while you may not agree they deserve anything at all, it IS their IP that anyone in the VC program is modifying.

So while they may not publish the split on the VC site, I doubt very much any of us would continue to participate if we thought it was at all unfair to us.