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Just pay attention to what people may perceive each structures date and history and try to follow the path, if there is anything older then what you have seen then write it down for future reference. Time and locations are not well mapped out enough to make sense of it all, that's why there is so many ruins discredited or mocked because of its age. If you can find a common age amongst all of the miscellaneous finds, you might be on to something, Proof they could be wrong.

 

There is allot of stuff now older then 13000 years, when time was only recorded back the latest 10000 years ago. the sheer number of structures with the almost same date, even the great pyramids could be older.

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I'll give you this one. :cool: The Moon used to be a lot closer to the Earth. And it is moving further away a little at a time. Very old paintings of the Moon show it to be much closer.



If you discover what I did from the clues I offer next... Read on and see if you're up to it.



The Earths Axis, North and South have been talked about by ancient philosophers. I found out a very interesting fact of note when studying notes written by a very old philosopher who describes Atlantis. There are footnotes in his original writings and in a collections of written works. I discovered while reading several books written by the ancient philosophers, teachers, and their students that they all wrote to each other, they even hired several delivery persons to take a copy of their identical letters to assure that one copy always made it to the intended, and kept up personal journals which included their letters to each other.



Many of the facts were hard to comprehend until I sorted out several footnotes leading to letters of one way conversing on topics and found in a few the order fit together like a puzzle.



Some say the reason for doubts about certains discoveries involved a fact. The fact was that the letters some philosophers wrote to others could not possibly have been read by them. Some are letters written to a students teacher and patron or matron of that philosophy. The flaws in the letters were that they could not have been read by the intended people they were written to, at the time, for their teachers/philosophers to have postulated on their students theories. The dates on the noted written text to the other philosophers at the time made the letters lose credibility, because the older teachers/philosophers were sometimes dead before the letters were entered as documented proofs.



In one case I saw these flaws and thought them to be a reckless attempt to gain attention at their institute. Eventually I had an experience, in real life, recalling how I had found something I wanted dearly to share with a person/teacher who I found out had passed away. I saw in the letters a growing sense of that loss of their mentors, teachers/philosophers, too.



I read how a group of people declared one collection of various letters, which had been copied to a large set of books, the attackers said the modern companies copied in an attempt to sell their books. It appeared to be a heartless group of people attacking a person, not the company, whose love for their teachers were deep and their writing was part of their way of keeping the lost ones alive in their heart and mind.



Than I realized that the company never charged anything for the collection and all that was in the collection were leads to the real authors books in their entirety. The attackers themselves were the frauds.



The actual scrolls, books, all works of all of the ancient philosophers that are authentic, even Aristotle, Plato, Plutarch, Socrates and all the rest are accessible and have been proven to be authentic. You have to read through them seeking what you've learned here though. I remember after seeing the letters included to the great conversation, while I was filled with doubts, I too begin to see some history about the Moon and Earth's duo axises, and how it was, and is, and will be. The Earth isn't what it used to be and the Moon has pulled away.



The great cataclysm wasn't because of meteor or the Moon shifts.



After seeing how sensible the conversations in letters were, after reading the authentic books, I suspected the fraud was involved to sell a collection of books with a set of encyclopedias too.



But even I could not ignore the descriptive features, which eventually, made connections with yet another ancient Peoples stories. I found a book my Mom told me was valuable, she told me someone told her that all the books were valuable, and a book I read about a Turtle, told by those of the new world who just called themselves, "the people" on the continent of North America were responsible for having it published.



It took me several years to discover a tiny scrap of facts, after removing the impossible until all that was left were the facts, and then I got to put two and two together. You should have seen my Dad's eyes light up when I suggested my supposed idea.



If I tell you what I learned it will probably fail miserably to get my message across. So! Use your investigative skill's and you may than grasp it as you need so it grabs your attention. When you discover what I did it will stun you at first. It will fill in a gap which will bring a large amount of facts together of what you probably already suspect.



Then you than may find what I did. If you find what I did, although small it will fit in several places, and become a gigantic filler for several others piece of your puzzle. Only, if you discover it though. :mellow:


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My version, did we have a moon still stands. I did some hunting myself, and something small like tidal forces is not enough to make a planet shift its axis. It had to be something massive, but what is the question, not even a Asteroid could do such a thing, unless it fuzed itself with earth.

 

It happened recently when we as a species existed. Its how the North Pole was formed and the mammoths was wiped out so suddenly that it only could of been a massive freeze over. They studied the guts of the mammoths and found flowers and other matter that does not exist now in that part of the world..

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The moon is moving away, the gravity of its effect's, when it was closer, are lessening.

 

Look up what I mentioned after that. Search, research, and when you think you've found all the answers; strip them down to the nitty gritty.

 

Then the tiny little piece I found will stick out like a sore thumb. You will still have your doubts, but each time you look at the stuff you have collected that piece will rise up into your thoughts and fit into places more and more.

 

If I just tell you, you won't even begin to believe what I offer. I offer you the path, I took, at the fork in the road. Follow it long enough and you'll begin to gather a bunch of important stuff to aide you in a plan which you will develop too, along the way.

 

Reread what I posted, above your last post, again and again until you've exhausted any leads there. All I can do is wait until you mention a find which will get my attention so I can share, confirm your success.

 

Until you find a connection I will be unable to respond to you. All I have mentioned can be confirmed. The moon is moving away, the gravity of its effects were greater when it was closer, and are lessening more as it moves away.

 

Have fun. If you don't get in on the theme of this before I am gone, maybe we'll be able to discuss it in the afterlife? Just like some people seem to do in, "The Great Conversation".

 

. . .Those who receive

with most pains and
difficulty, remember
best; every new thing
they learn, being, as it
were, burnt and branded
in on their minds.
Plutarch, Lives
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If you have any collected posts on YouTube or any other of the sites providing information about the Earth's mysterious wobble, it would fit in. But I am focusing on another real point of interest that seems so irrelevant it slips into the cracks over and over after a time.

 

When it does surface it always seems insignificant, because of the long wait between events that occur because of it.

 

The Earths wobble is just a reference I wanted to know if anyone agreed exists. Agreed, along with all the other scientific researchers who agreed it is an agreed on fact.

Now that it appears I to have entertained that idea, some more, of what I have posted, will start to appear to be sensible to those who are thinking along the passages, I have lent out, to see if they fit into a game mod theme. Some people used their studies from philosophies in such interesting ways to make games invite thoughts so we think about possible story lines. I've seen it in MORROWIND, Skyrim, and Fallout 3.

Seek and you shall find, that is, if you research to find what I have, a little fact to expound a bit of information I discovered. Which when added to all the rest will lead you to a few profound considerations which should bring a lot of interesting twists to your own theories.

Research the leads I posted and you shall, I believe, undoubtedly find the fact I did which calls up a good deal more facts which will fill in gaps in a long history of the Earths life.

I'm not going to tell you my theory until I see some profound comprehension along that philosophical line. If you have guesses, Post Them.

Then; when, or if, I do see a chanced bit of wisdom I'll add my thought's. One day, what I am aiming at will make enough sense to others who are aware of where my posted information leads. I will eventually find someone who already has, and has been interested in the fact, which they added to their own research. Until then; I hope you all have a comfortable day.

Follow the lead in the above. In this post : #83 .

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The reason I brought up the Earths wobble was to find out if I got your agreement we both understood.

 

You can explain the Earths wobble all you want. You must learn from the myths, the stories passed from greater aged people to younger people, and read the scientific facts, which are available you, I have already read, and then you will begin to see a different movement which isn't well known.

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The wobble was not part of my theory, but i can understand your view point. Science is the only thing i believe in.

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Try imagining a group of people who survived a cataclysm and have recovered well enough, but their ages are very few who are older than 16. A story that is spoken and is as old as the Earth itself. A story about a great disaster ( cataclysm ), retold by the elders, who were of the mind to make sure it is always remembered. Try to imagine after the event, how some well schooled old people, in their 90's or even 900's, might have struggled, and they were telling all stories by speaking, teaching children to remember by telling it, when they were still alive, so the children would not forget.

 

That is what science is; in its root element, the retelling, "The membering' " or "the telling!"

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