Degby1 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Mothership Zeta Crew has an optional Moon Base, and I think that the "A Quest for Heaven" mod was going to implement a Moon Base in the next chapter. If anyone was on the Moon in Fallout, they would either be remnants of the United States Space Command (Navy and Air Force) or some secretive wing of the pre war government that even the Enclave might not be aware of (Secret Space Program). The NCR are a bunch of pig pokers running around with sharp sticks, they might be able to get a water dam running (albeit with great difficulty) but Space exploration, no way! Even the BoS couldnt do that. The only non military group to get there would have been the Bright Brotherhood, so perhaps a group from the Moon come back to Earth and let's you go with them, or even using an Alien teleporter takes The Courier there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrokiller555 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 Mothership Zeta Crew has an optional Moon Base, and I think that the "A Quest for Heaven" mod was going to implement a Moon Base in the next chapter. If anyone was on the Moon in Fallout, they would either be remnants of the United States Space Command (Navy and Air Force) or some secretive wing of the pre war government that even the Enclave might not be aware of (Secret Space Program). The NCR are a bunch of pig pokers running around with sharp sticks, they might be able to get a water dam running (albeit with great difficulty) but Space exploration, no way! Even the BoS couldnt do that. The only non military group to get there would have been the Bright Brotherhood, so perhaps a group from the Moon come back to Earth and let's you go with them, or even using an Alien teleporter takes The Courier there. I think the BOS would be able to do it, if there was valuable tech up there which of course there would be. A part where you sit inside of a space craft as it launches, watching out through a window of you shooting up into space. I think it would be a fantastic thing for the courier to experience. Especially the colonies, different factions, strange moon creatures, zero-g combat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybenexttime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 True zero gee combat will be impossible to simulate for FNV. The only fake is to increase jump height and decrease the fall speed. This idea was by WJS. Again this isn't real zero gee combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degby1 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Tbh, I dont see the BoS having the resources to go to the Moon, unless of course they managed to gain access to somewhere like Big MT, but then why would they have interest in going to the Moon. Unless they picked up a signal from a pre war colony already up there and wanted to form some kind of alliance to gain the weaponry to wipe the NCR off the map. Could be possible given they're Army descendents and would have access to secure military frequencies they could intercept, but going there would be a task. The Enclave are far more likely to get there in the post War U.S. Also any Moon base would have simulated gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgwynn Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So here is what I'm thinking if getting the moon by rocket is impossible then I'm thinking Groom Lake near Area 51 would offer the next best option to get there. I checked Google maps for how long it would take to walk from Las Vegas to Groom Lake and it said 42 hours and 127 Miles and I'm assuming over well maintained roads and trails however after 200+ years those roads and trails will be nothing more than goat ( Bighorner ) paths with other dangers along the way. So the walking time would be doubled possible tripled unless the player could use the Enclave Remnants or NCR's Vertibird in their Bunker or Bear Force One from Hoover Dam to get there a whole lot faster. The Brotherhood of Steel don't have access to a Vertibird so the only two factions Enclave Remnants and NCR have those kind of resources for the player to use to get to Groom Lake/Area 51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrokiller555 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Tbh, I dont see the BoS having the resources to go to the Moon, unless of course they managed to gain access to somewhere like Big MT, but then why would they have interest in going to the Moon. Unless they picked up a signal from a pre war colony already up there and wanted to form some kind of alliance to gain the weaponry to wipe the NCR off the map. Could be possible given they're Army descendents and would have access to secure military frequencies they could intercept, but going there would be a task. The Enclave are far more likely to get there in the post War U.S. Also any Moon base would have simulated gravity.That is what we have discussed, the BOS or other would gain the signal from the lunar colonies and would work to get up there. Later on hiring the courier to be part of their exploration team. And yes the underground colonies on the moon would have simulated gravity but when the player is sent outside to travel to different colonies then putting on a suit and equipping a space ready gun before jumping into moonwalk combat mode would be fantastic. And yeah...the NCR, BOS, or Enclave remnants could have found this Area 51/Groom lake facility and are using its equipment to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgwynn Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The Brotherhood of Steel would walk since they don't have a Vertibird to get them there in just a few hours. A 10 man team with 8 knights and 2 scribes would take about 3-4 days to reach Area 51/Groom Lake. It is very possible that the Brotherhood have the plans/schematics to build a Vertibird depending on the actions of the Chosen One from Fallout 2. And it is also possible that the Enclave Remnants Vertibird would open fire on the NCR Vertibird and they could shoot each other out of the skies leaving Area 51/Groom Lake facility untouched for the Brotherhood Of Steel. But in my opinion the Enclave Remnants would get there first since Bear Force One has flight control issues the pilots would be babying their Vertibird the whole way thus letting the Enclave to get there first and dig in and fortify their positions while the Enclave Eggheads do their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrokiller555 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 The Brotherhood of Steel would walk since they don't have a Vertibird to get them there in just a few hours. A 10 man team with 8 knights and 2 scribes would take about 3-4 days to reach Area 51/Groom Lake. It is very possible that the Brotherhood have the plans/schematics to build a Vertibird depending on the actions of the Chosen One from Fallout 2. And it is also possible that the Enclave Remnants Vertibird would open fire on the NCR Vertibird and they could shoot each other out of the skies leaving Area 51/Groom Lake facility untouched for the Brotherhood Of Steel. But in my opinion the Enclave Remnants would get there first since Bear Force One has flight control issues the pilots would be babying their Vertibird the whole way thus letting the Enclave to get there first and dig in and fortify their positions while the Enclave Eggheads do their stuff.It would be interesting to see. Only problem is the mod author would have to make the earth portion pretty short and sweet because a lot of the programming would be going to be the moon region, included with its own world map, location and its markers, moonwalk, weapons, characters, voice overs, yada yada. The section in finding the base and being briefed would have to be...well..BRIEF. In my opinion of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degby1 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well I'm sold that the Enclave would be pursuing the Moon, given that was the original objective of the Enclave to set up shop on another planet. Also given that the Enclave identify themselves as the "U.S Government" any contact with the Lunar colonies would make more sense given that they would believe they are talking to their fellow countrymen. Unless of couse it was a Chinese, Russian or even, British colony up there. Also, Groom Lake would be a logical place to retreat to after the Oil Rig and Navarro was wiped out. Maybe a BoS spy infiltrates the group to gain tech knowledge and if you find out, you can kill him, turn him in or help him/her. Either way, I dont see the NCR ever getting there, plus if the Enclave did reach out the colony first, then an Independent Vegas mod would be more interesting, given that you can wipe the NCR off the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgwynn Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Hmm the Enclave pretty much abandoned the idea of colonizing other planets and decided to focus on terraforming the Earth after wiping out all non pure wasteland humans so that pure strain humans from the Enclave and humans from the control Vaults could inherit the Earth. That change of plans is what caused the downfall of the Enclave thus making them a Remnant of their former glory. Besides whatever faction gets to the Moon first will most likely find Hubologists or Shi colonies up there when they arrive since the Hubologists had the pre-war spaceship and the Shi had the fuel to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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