Ebola Has the next scare began?

[kvnchrist]

I just got a phone call from my daughter down in san Antonio, Tx. It seems the staff of a hospital misdiagnosed an Ebola patiant and sent him home with some low level pharmaceuticals for something far less dangerious, even after he said he'd recently visted an African nation.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-patient-mishap-prompts-cdc-alert-to-hospitals-205334851.html

Now her family on her moms side, who live around the Dallas area are asking if they could come down to her place for a few weeks.

 

I very rarely go ape about things that could easily be prevented, but I tend to take issue with those people whose job it is to care for the sick and injured fail so completely after they had been informed f the posibility.

 

How far should the government go to protect our citizens from deadly diseases and how far would you go to asure your own health and that of your loved ones?

 

Would you stock up on food a water suplies in order to be able to close yourself off from society?

[NordHep]

I believe you are at the wrong forums at the moment :P

 

However, do not freak out about it. These things are taken very serious now and they have gotten the situation under control by assuring that no one else is infected. And I also believe that if you have just been visiting a country troubled by the ebola - virus, you should perhaps mention that to your doctor...

 

I do not believe that the government will incinerate all and everything to stop this, they will up their security for risk of infections.

This is not going to be the end of the world, do not be freaked out about it. Just live your life as usual.

[kvnchrist]

I believe you are at the wrong forums at the moment :tongue:

 

However, do not freak out about it. These things are taken very serious now and they have gotten the situation under control by assuring that no one else is infected. And I also believe that if you have just been visiting a country troubled by the ebola - virus, you should perhaps mention that to your doctor...

 

I do not believe that the government will incinerate all and everything to stop this, they will up their security for risk of infections.

This is not going to be the end of the world, do not be freaked out about it. Just live your life as usual.

 

Please don't assume you know my state of mind when I post anything. I posted this as a responce to people who are really concerned about the situation as a whole with the reliablity of the government.

 

P.S. Maybe you missed this part of the artical.

 

 

The move comes nearly a week after Thomas Eric Duncan showed up at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital with what officials described as fever and abdominal pain. Duncan, who had just moved to Dallas from West Africa, reportedly told hospital workers that he was recently in Liberia, one of the hardest hit areas of the deadly Ebola crisis.

 

 

 

Appearantly he did inform the staff and the information was not taken into account. As far as anyplace being qoute/unqoute troubled by this, death is more than just troubling, but I geuss the distance grants some people the right to be flipant about such things.

[HeyYou]

And of course we have the conspiracy theorists trying to pass this off as an 'escape' from a germ warfare lab. :)

[JimboUK]

I really wish the media wouldn't feed the hysteria surrounding this, Ebola is not a new thing, there have been many outbreaks in the past, those not showing symptoms cannot pass it on, even when they are it's very hard to pass on, it's isn't airborne, like HIV it requires exposure to the patient's bodily fluids.

[HeyYou]

Well, it's easier to pass than HIV...... someone coughing on you can pass the virus.... not so with HIV.

 

True though, this has happened before, and it will more than likely happen again.

[JimboUK]

Well, it's easier to pass than HIV...... someone coughing on you can pass the virus.... not so with HIV.

 

True though, this has happened before, and it will more than likely happen again.

 

It still needs to get into the body, yeah it's easier than HIV but no where near as easy as things like Measles or TB. I thought of HIV because this very much reminds me of the panic that caused in the 80's, peoples responses have been exactly the same. Basic cleanliness is enough to keep it under control, don't cough in peoples faces, washing hands before eating, that sort of thing. Poverty means sanitary conditions are far worse in parts West Africa than they are here in the first world, that's what's spreading it, even then it's not really spread outside of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone.

[Harbringe]

There has never been an outbreak of Ebola on this scale before , the largest outbreak prior to this was just under 350 deaths . This variant is the West African variant which has a 50 - 90% mortality rate , unlike the Zaire variant that ranges in a 90% mortality rate . Previously the Health experts had been telling us it could only be contracted by direct contact , but here in Canada 2 years ago our Government funded research ( Yes Government Socialist Spending ) that showed that it can be transmitted via air but its range is limited . Which is why it has been Canada that has been at the fore front of the medical know how on how to combat this . ( We have provided one vaccine and have two more under developement)

 

Anyhoo that said , this outbreak is over 1400 dead (maybe more , info is a bit old)( edit over 3000 dead) that doesn't include infected overall . Because these countries do not have well developed medical infrastructure or in some cases societal infrastructure (sanitation , hygenic food systems etc) , the worry is that it will start growing exponentially on a mass scale (have already seen that on local scale) and those countries may begin to break down on a mass scale and people will respond by taking flight , turning this epidemic into a global pandemic . In these places where its occurring they have already seen the beginnings of this type of behaviour . The World Health Organization (WHO) has come out and said that at its current rate of growth ( if unchecked) we are likely to see an infection rate topping 1 million by the end of January next year. A sense of how serious this is , In one of those countries (think it was Liberia) they opened a large emergency medical clinic and in less than a week it was filled to overcapacity.

 

Simple washing though wise is no garantee , there are medical personnel , body disposal personnel who though taking extra precautions ( masks , gloves , sealed collars and sleeves , etc) have still ended up catching this . We really wont know how nasty this is going to be til the New Year or later and at that time it will be we are winning or no we are losing.

Edited October 3, 2014 by Harbringe

[MajKrAzAm]

Harbringe is 100% correct.

 

Jim UK: The idea that the West will be saved by its sanitation and health standards suggests you haven't been around any of the vibrant areas in major cities recently. And the idea is that a major virus is incubating in Africa, in a similar way that TB was brought back from the dead by immigrant Mexicans, possibly in a stronger form. Globalism and high population densities have created a new, favorable condition for disease spread, it's very naive to think that this changes nothing and using bacterial hand soap lets us off the hook. Are you aware of any period in history where global travel took hours?

 

I've never seen anything like the sudden outbreaks of enterovirus' we are now seeing across North America. For years it was confined to the southwest with very few cases. Now we’re seeing mass eruptions fin clusters scattered around the country.

[edgeburner]

Now we are headed into flu-season. Many similar symptoms involved. Lord only knows what that will result in.

I'm beginning to wonder about this "only can be transmitted by bodily fluids" judgement.

Remember the "It won't come here" statement we heard a few weeks back (in the US) ?

Guess what? We know have our second confirmed case in Dallas.

Lets face it....it's scary. You not only don't know whom to believe, but, whether those whom are supposedly "in the know" actually know.