oldspice2625 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Really? No. Just no. Military equipment is made to be one type, for all. It is not made with women in mind. It's made with a typical human body in mind, and of course, with adjustments for measurements, but there's one style for each type of job that you can have. I'm sorry, but it's a really dumb idea, imho. You have to remember that this was a time of scarcity. The government only made power armor because it was found out how to make the battery for it last for a really really long time, making it far more practical, given the loss of fossil fuels for conventional weapons. Power armor was made to be one size fits all, because the economy couldn't handle all of the variations. That's why you see all military uniforms the same, because of limited resources. The Pre War world didn't have (as far as I know) women playing a large role in combat. Remember, this is 1950's era thinking, being stuck in that mindset for 120 years or so because the world was so heavily militarized and on the brink of total destruction. Women in the Fallout World fight after the bombs drop in combat units (raiders, gunners, mercenaries, BoS and Enclave) but I highly doubt they would have ever wasted their resources. It's like with Joan of Arc... they didn't make armor to fit the female form because women were forbidden from combat because of gender stereotypes, just like how the 1950's and beyond were heavily stereotyped that women were weak and couldn't fight or be put into combat (until really recently). It's a mod so you can do w/e you want, but honestly, I think it's kind of dumb, seeing as the armor fits all human bodies just fine, although as the mechanic on the BoS blimp eludes to, adjustments can be made to it. Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, do what you want, but I'm just saying, it's totally not lore friendly at all and would be really out of place. I mean, what are you going to do, put boobs on it or something, make it look more like an hour glass shape? It's not necessary, those are high tech synthetic plates on a frame, it would not be needed, because in most "fantasy armor", the female form would benefit from a more fitting armor cuirass and greaves. However, the armor is designed to fit comfortably around the user, giving enough space to account for most body types and sizes, as you can see when the person gets into the armor. There's really no reason for it. Ah well, if you are feeling creative or something, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedaie Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Your criticism is noted. Focusing on your statement 'a time of scarcity'; doesn't really account for The Institute, who seem to have a seemingly endless supply of materials for use in Synthetic production. The Institute is more than likely where my Power Armor would be manufactured. I think your emphasis on realistic application is a little aggressive considering a lot of what you see in Fallout's lore is very far fetched, even in our technological age. There's many worth noting, but extra terrestrial life and cute little spaceships is probably the best one to throw out here. As with any mod I work on, I like to consider it for world-fitting; material types, battery, kinetic systems etc, or at least acknowledge it. You also made the mistake of thinking this armor was to be sexualized. It's like criticizing a hockey player for having a crotch pad. It's a body part, it needs to be protected. When you need an outfit to function as protection as well as mobility and freedom, the natural course is for it to be form-fitted. Those 'assets' are naturally going to be more pronounced :wink: Currently my concepts calls for my armor to be called 'Reflex Armor'. While it does offer power, it's less towards keeping itself upright, and more towards enhancing the users agility and speed. Lastly. Don't feel you're raining on anyone's parade. There's a reason I do modding, because I have no one to answer to :smile: Edited April 2, 2016 by cedaie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minngarm Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) I see a lot of ignorant arguments here. The reason you don't see historical "female" armor is because there is no such thing as "Male armor" or "Female armor". Once you put on a aketon or gambison, or any other under coat protection your form basically disappears and you become a solid block of flesh and fluff. Even the largest of busts' disappear when you add thick layers of protection. Now for that reason power armor is simply power armor, it is not male, it is not female, it just is humanoid power armor. So you could do a "female" version of it sure, it would not be lore friendly but mods do not need to be lore friendly unless they want to claim to be. Now for the lore, the limitation in power armor is that the harness it is attached to can not out perform the human body in speed and agility, it is stronger sure, but can not make you faster or more stealthy, so again, lore vs not lore friendly. Finally there is some argument to be made about stylized full size power armor in female form such as you see in suites and what not for robots and aliens from the campy sci fi movies of the 50s and 60s, so if you were to keep the size and make a custom stylized retro sci fi female armor for it, that could fall under lore friendly. Edit: Oh and fallout is not the 50s extended, it is deliberately the counter culture of the 60s removed. Keep in mind if it were the 50s extended you wouldnt have black residents in the vaults as all the games have depicted. So social advancement continued, all bet at a slower and altered pace. Edited April 2, 2016 by minngarm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalmasterpiece Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Who cares if people don't want it or think it doesn't makes sense. If you don't want female power armor, don't download the mod. There's no reason to come pee in the cheerios of those that do want it and say it's a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarinArenos Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 For a simpler solution to a full remodel (and full re-animation, which is worse), maybe look at starting with "curvy" armor components that can still fit over the baseline power armor frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanity Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Post removed - let's keep any "SJW" argument nonsense out of this - TVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonmatrix Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I've always thought you could potentially pull off a sort of Samus Aran style suit of armor with the base power armor frame, which is where my mind starts at when thinking "Female Power Armor." Reading up, I see there's been a bit of discussion about whether or not armor should have a female form, and that's all fine and well, but I think it ignores other aspects that can give armor a more "feminine" quality. Sure you could have a very curvy set of armor placed on the base power armor frame, but it would read very weird when you see it in motion. The base frame has these clunky, almost over exaggerated motions to it that suggest the weight and bulk of the armor driven by probably a very basic set of actuators. The motions remind me alot of super mutants, reading as big and dumb.Contrast with the Assaultatron that has a much more fluid set of motions, has that slight cant to its torso that suggest something more agile and feminine. Even without a voice, even if you replaced the base mesh with cubes, it still reads as something more feminine than power armor. I'd like to see something that isn't just curvy bits pasted over the old body. I'd much rather have something that looks almost the same as t45 armor, but moves in a way I've not seen before, rather than something that moves like the t45 but is just covered in curves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManleySteele Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Have you looked at the Collosssus Body Suit by Guffeh? It may be what you're looking for. Also it is male and female armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipperken Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I do not want to sound like a prick, but in reality, no army would make such.No point in it. That would be the same as having female tanks or fighter jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Who said it would be a military creation pre-war or post-war? Might be someone that decided to tinker with the outer shell of a PA suit they found/owned. Female raider boss whose managed to put together a more female looking suit for themselves, or someone from a PA modder group/gang like the Atom Cats. Except they do more than ability modifications and paintjobs.Some like the wanderer/survivor that's taken to the notion of a new suit design just for something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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