AMA with Robin Scott - Tuesday 6th September

[TheTokenGeek]

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Update: Here's the recording of the recent AMA (Ask me anything). Had a great time, thanks everyone! Hope to do it again soon!

 

Stream: https://soundcloud.com/user-433087746

Download: https://forums.nexusmods.com/ama/nexus_mods_ama_robin_scott.mp3

 

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Recently we introduced Discord as our preferred community chat platform and it really seems to have taken off. We had a few hiccups and no doubt will have a few more, but we’re getting there with around 900-1000 users online at any one time.

 

We’re currently looking at introducing various bots and roles within our little Discord world to make the moderation and joining a far more easy process - stay tuned.

 

What I am excited about is that it has introduced an ability to talk direct, live and uncut to our community members! So what I thought was - what better way to take advantage of this than a few AMA’s and who better to start it all off other than Robin himself!?

 

The way it will work is that there will be a voice channel setup that you will be able to join in order to listen to Robin answering questions, these questions will be posted by you guys into a dedicated #ama-questions text chat channel. Questions will likely be thrown into chat fast and furious, so it will be up to Robin to decide which one’s that he would like to answer.

 

Dave (SirSalami) and I (BlindJudge) will also be in the channel to moderate and listen. I’m sure we’ll find it just as entertaining as you all.

 

We have provisionally set the date for Tuesday the 6th September at -

 

US Times

• 12:00 PDT
  
• 13:00 MDT
  
• 14:00 CDT
  
• 15:00 EDT
  

UK Time

• 20:00
  

If you are unfamiliar with what an AMA is, it stands for “Ask Me Anything” and gives you the opportunity to speak direct to someone interesting. It is huge on Reddit and there have been some real classics, such as the AMA with Channing Tatum, Barack Obama and even the guy with two penises (nsfw of course).

 

If you haven’t already checked out our Discord server, than please come and jump on and sign up. The only details you will need to provide are your Username and Email address, no other information is required.

[disi30]

Thanks!

If you are unfamiliar with what an AMA is, it stands for “Ask Me Anything” and gives you the opportunity to speak direct to someone interesting. It is huge on Reddit and there have been some real classics, such as the AMA with Channing Tatum, Barack Obama and even the guy with two penises (nsfw of course).

I really wasn't sure what it is, I know ARMA, though :D

[Oubliette]

So far I haven't seen anything about discord that makes me think of it as a success. Except maybe that it supports more trolls and lurkers at once without crashing than the old chat does. Can't even remove my account there - you have to wait for it to go "inactive" which takes days leading me to think much less of the "900-1000 users online" in a day statement. How many of those are people who signed in to take a look at the new features, came across a troll spouting off something unpleasant or spamming the main room with porn and then popped right back out again never to return?

[token31570]

In response to post #42002975.

Oubliette wrote:

So far I haven't seen anything about discord that makes me think of it as a success. Except maybe that it supports more trolls and lurkers at once without crashing than the old chat does. Can't even remove my account there - you have to wait for it to go "inactive" which takes days leading me to think much less of the "900-1000 users online" in a day statement. How many of those are people who signed in to take a look at the new features, came across a troll spouting off something unpleasant or spamming the main room with porn and then popped right back out again never to return?

Discord makes Skype and Teamspeak/Mumble completly useless. This simple app does what those two can do but with a more user friendly design. One of its main strengths is probably that it is way easier to access to someone else's discord; on link only and the user isn't forced to download anything, nor create an account, if he doesn't want to.

[Dark0ne]

In response to post #42002975. #42003595 is also a reply to the same post.

Oubliette wrote:

So far I haven't seen anything about discord that makes me think of it as a success. Except maybe that it supports more trolls and lurkers at once without crashing than the old chat does. Can't even remove my account there - you have to wait for it to go "inactive" which takes days leading me to think much less of the "900-1000 users online" in a day statement. How many of those are people who signed in to take a look at the new features, came across a troll spouting off something unpleasant or spamming the main room with porn and then popped right back out again never to return?

token31570 wrote: Discord makes Skype and Teamspeak/Mumble completly useless. This simple app does what those two can do but with a more user friendly design. One of its main strengths is probably that it is way easier to access to someone else's discord; on link only and the user isn't forced to download anything, nor create an account, if he doesn't want to.

The "online" counter shows you how many people are online on the server right now. Ergo, if you aren't using Discord, you aren't counted in that online figure. If you close the app, you're not counted as online on our server. As such, that's not 1,000 users "in a day", that's 1,000 users online at once.

I think you're sitting there with rose-tinted glasses on. The old chat suffered from trolls and people posting porn as well. It had a serious repeat offender (that has been banned about 200 times) posting child porn for christ's sake. The difference was, the old chat was barely used by anyone because it was dated and archaic. Less people used it, less trolls because of that. But it CERTAINLY suffered from trolls, like any online social media does.

We've only had stuff reported to us a handful of times. Indeed, I'm not sure I saw any reports from you when you were on Discord, so I'm not entirely sure what issues you came across that were bad enough to discuss here, but not bad enough to report to us at the time? We've been dealing with reports as and when, and by and large, there's a large number of users enjoying it.

It's certainly not for everyone so, as our old adage goes, if you don't like it, you don't have to use it.

[Oubliette]

Yes the old chat had trolls - it also had staff working hard to elevate the problems pretty much around the clock. The new chat has the same problems as the old chat, magnified by additional numbers and while staff appears to be there seeing what's going on but not actually doing anything about it. Old chat yes has it's issues but if staff was present when someone was being a troll they didn't need a report to take care of the issue. And I'm sorry but when I'm in chat specifically saying that it's an unpleasant environment with all the trolls and staff stops by to say "hi" but still does nothing that doesn't really make me feel more confident in them but yup that's my fault for not knowing how to report someone or that I should be doing so every time there is an issue.

 

If I'm going to have to report every troll, spammer or harasser I see in discord then I'm going to need to know how that works. So tell me how to make a report from discord that's not connected to nexus? The profiles aren't connected to nexus so I can't click their avatar to make a report and their usernames can and often are different, not that it's possible to search nexus for a user by name either. If I report them on discord what, exactly, does that do? Yes I'm very aware of the old spammer that came back to chat many many times, usually you can spot them by their love of "eggs" so shall I report every user that's seems to have too much interest in ovarian edibles or wait till they hit me with the cp? So far I have no indication that they wouldn't just have a field day with discord as I have not seen a single kick or ban and have had no indication that either would be permanent the way they are on Nexus, if users can just change their name on the fly how do bans even work? What are the consequences for a particularly heinous ban in the new chat here? Are there any? Or is it a great place for people who are unsatisfied with a modder to hop in spew some threats knowing their account here is safe and they can continue to utilize the sites resources incognito?

 

Up to this point I've tried to use reports for direct rule violations only (of which the new chat seems to have none) so pardon me for not knowing I should be pinging you every time someone posts an objectionable link or says something offensive.

 

Yes you're right, I've already stated I won't be using it not because I don't like it but because I have no intention of going for a friendly chat and instead wading through the cesspool that is humanity without a filter on the internet - that doesn't mean I shouldn't point out it's problems in the hopes that they can be fixed and I might return. Of course so far I'm not seeing any indication that you care about any of these issues so I guess I'm just tossing cold water on your new toy party. Party on (I guess).

Edited September 2, 2016 by Oubliette

[Dark0ne]

In response to post #42005055.

Oubliette wrote:

Yes the old chat had trolls - it also had staff working hard to elevate the problems pretty much around the clock. The new chat has the same problems as the old chat, magnified by additional numbers and while staff appears to be there seeing what's going on but not actually doing anything about it. Old chat yes has it's issues but if staff was present when someone was being a troll they didn't need a report to take care of the issue.

 

But if I'm going to have to report every troll, spammer or harasser I see in discord then I'm going to need to know how that works. So tell me how to make a report from discord that's not connected to nexus? The profiles aren't connected to nexus so I can't click their avatar to make a report and their usernames can and often are different, not that it's possible to search nexus for a user by name either. If I report them on discord what, exactly, does that do? Yes I'm very aware of the old spammer that came back to chat many many times, so far I have no indication that they wouldn't just have a field day with discord as I have not seen a single kick or ban and have had no indication that either would be permanent the way they are on Nexus, if users can just change their name on the fly how do bans even work?

 

Up to this point I've tried to use reports for direct rule violations only (of which the new chat seems to have none) so pardon me for not knowing I should be pinging you every time someone posts an objectionable link or says something offensive.

 

Yes you're right, I've already stated I won't be using it because i don't like it - that doesn't mean I shouldn't point out it's problems in the hopes that they can be fixed and I might return but so far I'm not seeing any indication that you care about any of these issues so I guess I'm just blowing hot air on your new toy party.

Use @staff or ping staff directly with @Dark (for example, to ping me) and the staff will be notified they've been mentioned. It's as simple as that.

This information, along with the rules for Discord, are in the "Information" channel on Discord.

that doesn't mean I shouldn't point out it's problems in the hopes that they can be fixed and I might return but so far I'm not seeing any indication that you care about any of these issues so I guess I'm just blowing hot air on your new toy party.

That's all well and good, but you have indeed come in blowing hot air, jumping to the sort of extremes that we see in this community time and again. You started off by deriding us mentioning having "900-1000 users online", without doing your own research to realise that we were right with that stat, and you were wrong. It wasn't a particularly good start. If you want me to take you seriously and calmly listen to what you have to say on the matter then you yourself need to calm yourself and raise your points in a measured way. Free of hyperbole.

Having said that, we are clearly going another direction with Discord to the old site chat. I wasn't a fan of the old site chat at all; from the way it looked and worked to the way it was moderated and the general "feel" within the chat. The cliques, the constant crying to moderators when someone so much as thought of saying something inappropriate, the constant attempts by groups of users to get other users in trouble, the iron-fist moderation. It wasn't a fun community at all. Hence why I was barely there.

I understand some of the old chat users aren't going to like the fact I want to change that, but, other than the fact Discord is far superior to the old chat from a technology stand-point, I also do not want to see a return to the old way the chat was run and the type of community that fostered. As such, if that's what you're looking for, you're not going to get that from the new Discord chat and this is all a bit of a moot point.

More people have come in to Discord in the past week than came in to the original site chat in an entire year. Discord is new, and we're letting it lie fallow for the time being to see how it turns out. After a bit of time, we'll then assess how it's worked thus far and make changes as necessary. As is prudent. Edited September 2, 2016 by Dark0ne

[Oubliette]

Oh I'm so sorry I misrepresented your numbers in ignorance that really throws everything else I had to say right out the window. I can see it's a point of pride and it's obvious I hurt yours if that's enough to make everything else seem completely unimportant.

 

The old chat wasn't capable of supporting more than 40 or so people without suffering horrible lag. That doesn't mean more people didn't want to use it, simply that it wasn't possible to really accommodate those numbers. I'll give discord that, it definitely hasn't flinched with numbers growing ever larger and never seeming to decrease despite people needing to do things like sleep, eat, work and go to school but I'm sure that's just me being ignorant on how the chat works again.

 

 

 

Use @staff or ping staff directly with @Dark (for example, to ping me) and the staff will be notified they've been mentioned. It's as simple as that.

 

You thought the old chat was full of cliques and lots of unnecessary reporting but you want the new chat to ping you directly whenever there's an issue and this is somehow going to increase your enjoyment. I don't see it at all but it's your baby raise it however you want. Just don't be surprised when some people think your kid has no manners and they don't want to spend any time with it.

[DoctorKaizeld]

In response to post #42002975. #42003595, #42004195 are all replies on the same post.

Oubliette wrote:

So far I haven't seen anything about discord that makes me think of it as a success. Except maybe that it supports more trolls and lurkers at once without crashing than the old chat does. Can't even remove my account there - you have to wait for it to go "inactive" which takes days leading me to think much less of the "900-1000 users online" in a day statement. How many of those are people who signed in to take a look at the new features, came across a troll spouting off something unpleasant or spamming the main room with porn and then popped right back out again never to return?

token31570 wrote: Discord makes Skype and Teamspeak/Mumble completly useless. This simple app does what those two can do but with a more user friendly design. One of its main strengths is probably that it is way easier to access to someone else's discord; on link only and the user isn't forced to download anything, nor create an account, if he doesn't want to.

Dark0ne wrote: The "online" counter shows you how many people are online on the server right now. Ergo, if you aren't using Discord, you aren't counted in that online figure. If you close the app, you're not counted as online on our server. As such, that's not 1,000 users "in a day", that's 1,000 users online at once.

I think you're sitting there with rose-tinted glasses on. The old chat suffered from trolls and people posting porn as well. It had a serious repeat offender (that has been banned about 200 times) posting child porn for christ's sake. The difference was, the old chat was barely used by anyone because it was dated and archaic. Less people used it, less trolls because of that. But it CERTAINLY suffered from trolls, like any online social media does.

We've only had stuff reported to us a handful of times. Indeed, I'm not sure I saw any reports from you when you were on Discord, so I'm not entirely sure what issues you came across that were bad enough to discuss here, but not bad enough to report to us at the time? We've been dealing with reports as and when, and by and large, there's a large number of users enjoying it.

It's certainly not for everyone so, as our old adage goes, if you don't like it, you don't have to use it.

in Oubliettes defense on the moderation side i was on Discord the other day (monday if i recall it right) and she came on right about the same time someone made a dildo joke in general chat... i would have reported it but i am new to the chat and don't know how to do that.

buuut that leads to my argument against what was said being that i agree with Dark0ne as i only visited the site chat 3-4 times and each time was not a pleasant one and i really seemed to be mostly ignored when asking questions or trying to interact with people. also the chat lagged in every case i was on there. also with it being separate from the main site it allows the staff to communicant with the community about the matter as well as to keep the community from getting hurt by site updates.

i can say i am happy with the new Discord chat and probably will use it on occasion.

[Dark0ne]

In response to post #42006545.

Oubliette wrote:

Oh I'm so sorry I misrepresented your numbers in ignorance that really throws everything else I had to say right out the window. I can see it's a point of pride and it's obvious I hurt yours if that's enough to make everything else seem completely unimportant.

 

The old chat wasn't capable of supporting more than 40 or so people without suffering horrible lag. That doesn't mean more people didn't want to use it, simply that it wasn't possible to really accommodate those numbers. I'll give discord that, it definitely hasn't flinched with numbers growing ever larger and never seeming to decrease despite people needing to do things like sleep, eat, work and go to school but I'm sure that's just me being ignorant on how the chat works again.

 

 

 

Use @staff or ping staff directly with @Dark (for example, to ping me) and the staff will be notified they've been mentioned. It's as simple as that.

 

You thought the old chat was full of cliques and lots of unnecessary reporting but you want the new chat to ping you directly whenever there's an issue and this is somehow going to increase your enjoyment. I don't see it at all but it's your baby raise it however you want. Just don't be surprised when some people think your kid has no manners and they don't want to spend any time with it.

Okie dokie!