We have a name! And a Q&A session with Tannin regarding the new mod manager.

[Littlebigme123]

In response to post #50239892. #50240062, #50244007, #50246277, #50249942, #50290947, #50294092, #50304812 are all replies on the same post.

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remlnx wrote: Not going to use this, give from day 1 the same virtualization as Mod Organizer.
60-70% of Nexus community use MO not NMM and you are prioritizing those "im unable to learn something that is not NMM and i dont even wanna try" that is probably less than 40% of the users?
That's why i started to cry when Tannin moved to work for Nexus, because of course the new Vortex manager destiny is to be more similar to NMM than MO.

Not going to renew my sub, forget it.

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Dark0ne wrote: Where did you pull those stats from? Were they made up in your head, perchance?

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matortheeternal wrote:

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J.O.D. wrote: Like Nexus is Skyrim only and on Reddit, 100 % Nexus users are present...

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Dark0ne wrote: Our mod manager login figures show that only 8% of user agents are from MO users. So unless people want to argue that most MO users don't download via MO/use the login mechanism, i.e. they use it in offline mode (the same argument could also be used for NMM as well), then 8% is your official figure. To clarify, this is only comparing games that MO actually supports, so I've removed the figures for games like The Witcher 3 from the NMM stats so it's a more fair representation.

I'd never use a poll of the /r/skyrimmods Reddit community as an accurate representation of the entire community. They tend to be more "tech savvy" or even "tech aware" than your average mod user and I would class it as the "enthusiast" side of the community. Hence why I can believe those figures in the poll easily for that community.

And to clarify, this does NOT mean we do not want to cater to this small side of the community as well. This is simply a correction to the over-inflated figures being thrown around about MO's usage within the entire community at this time.

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lued123 wrote: I can buy the 8 percent thing, but I'd imagine that's partly because NMM has a download link on every single page of the Nexus, while MO has to be actively searched for. I think it'd be a lot closer if they had equal exposure. It's not just that MO is for advanced users, it's also that a lot of people grab NMM and are perfectly fine with it. It'll be interesting to see how this split changes when/if Vortex has both systems as options (assuming you guys can even collect that info, anyway).
At any rate, I think we can all agree that, as long as it's not completely screwed up, Vortex will be more popular than either one once it starts getting out there.

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Kevin843 wrote: I want virtualization data like MO or i won't be using vortex.

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LordGem wrote: Hi I've been modding my games for only the last two years, since I've been on disability and have had the time to brush the rust off my programming from the 80's. I've tried both Nexus Mod Manager and Mod Organizer, and am currently using Mod Organizer 2, out all all of them I found that the Nexus Mod Manager the most difficult to use from an ignorant point of view. Where as the format, ( not the programming ) of Mod organizer is a lot more intuitive. I have just spent the last 3 weeks modding Fallout 4 MO2 and have finally got it to work and play without conflict drawing mods from not only Nexus and Bethesda, but self created as well. For the prior 8 weeks before that I tried NMM and was unable to succeed. Now if I'm one of only 8% of your users that uses MO than how do the say 80% who don't actually do programming understand NMM and the way it works. It is possible that the sophistication of MO is just easier for me to use because of the way I think, but it is my hope that no matter what method is used to make it work that the Interface will be more similar to MO than NMM. In this I do hope that Dark0ne and Tannin listens and hears the small side of their community

I much prefer NMM. I have no programming experience at all, and it is by far the easiest to understand. I would prefer they keep it like NMM in the new one.

[azamjad]

So If I get this right, Vortex will be using a form of virtualisation, but instead of having a clean Steam folder like MO gives, it will still have files in it from the mods? But we can revert to a clean state with the press of a button? I love MO's virtualisation, but if Tannin says that virtualisation like MO gives problems and this method of virtualisation is better, then I guess I believe him. Can someone confirm?

[Target1213]

I much prefer Mod Organizer and it's U.I. over Nexus Mod Manager. Guess what? Who cares? This is new, different, Neither and both...TOTALLY NEW. Get over your current opinions, take a deep breath and try it. CREATE NEW AND EXCITING OPINIONS about a NEW offering. (YAY!).

 

Uhh,...Alpha test link not forth coming...Depression and anxiety beginning...

 

Keep up the GREAT WORK!

[Target1213]

Hey Tanin42,...Come on brother,...slip me the link...I am good for it. No one is looking this way...I NEED IT MAN.

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For general consumption: Please do not hate me because I tried Mod Organizer and liked it better...I am not smug or Superior of visage, thought or deed. I am excited for the new offering which should be Superior to both previous offerings due to the collusion of the minds on this project. Seriously, please do not allow this to become a common pissing contest. This is going places hopefully.

[skyewnz]

Will I have to transfer or reinstall all my mods from NMM to Vortex?

[Reidlos]

This needs to happen soon we are much in need of a updated manager with mo and nmm being stoped, yes what's out there works but the hype for a hybrid is killing me

[azamjad]

Ya, I've put all modding on hold, and even uninstalled Skyrim and FO4 until Vortex comes out. No point in putting together an installation unless I've got a proper manager. New Vegas is still running with the MO installation though. Still need to finish that game lol

[Dark0ne]

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azamjad wrote:

Ya, I've put all modding on hold, and even uninstalled Skyrim and FO4 until Vortex comes out. No point in putting together an installation unless I've got a proper manager. New Vegas is still running with the MO installation though. Still need to finish that game lol

It's going to be quite a while before anything is out for public consumption still. Many months.

Just an FYI. Edited May 22, 2017 by Dark0ne

[azamjad]

  On 5/22/2017 at 9:50 PM, Dark0ne said:

 

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azamjad wrote:

Ya, I've put all modding on hold, and even uninstalled Skyrim and FO4 until Vortex comes out. No point in putting together an installation unless I've got a proper manager. New Vegas is still running with the MO installation though. Still need to finish that game lol

It's going to be quite a while before anything is out for public consumption still. Many months.

 

Just an FYI.

 

That's ok. Take as long as you guys need. I know it will be better than what's available right now. I've got a couple of MMOs and other games that need playing, not to mention real life stuff.

[nobadeeftw]

I am glad to see this happen. I much preferred Mod Manager because it was much more powerful and far more stable. I had so many issues with NMM over the years and often would get frustrated with the way it worked at times. I see people on here saying NMM was easier for them to use, but I always found Mod Manager to be vastly more intuitive. It had a little bit of a learning curve at first because it was different, but once you understood the basics, it was hard to imagine how you ever used NMM. I still remember back in the early days of NMM, where it was buggy and had frequent problems that continued on to the present. With a new design for the program I don't see how things couldn't be anything but better.