What a Nightmare

[YellowEagle]

First i have a secondary drive that games are on, ( The secondary is for another OS Disk thats only 110 gig's ) this is the first thing Vortex goes to not the Main drive to scan. It does this as soon as it's first Loaded. It doesn't scan the main drive first and should not even scan any drive with out the user instigating it to scan a drive. Not scanning and finding the games on the main drive. These games are in the Steam folder on the new Drive.

 

These games are in Gog and Steam. It finds those just fine to bad they are on the wrong drive. You need to change the defaults so when it is first installed it lets the user determine which drives they want scanned. at the moment it's very broken.

 

So i found the place to make it stop scanning the storage drive.

 

It can't find the Steam folder and i can't change it's pathing either still shows Drive E instead of drive C which has the games on it. It has totally ruined about 300 hours of game play on my storage drive on Fallout 4 as i had reinstalled it on this new clean OS. And the games from steam. Now i have to start over and completely remod the game on the storage drive.

 

So Nexus as a Premium Lifetime user. I'm finding this not so very good.

 

This mod manager needs to much hands on to use effectively. Not made for the general user. And i've been using mod managers for over 20 years for different games. What ever NMM's faults at least it was usable. Vortex Doesn't show the drive the game is on that your modding without going and mousing over and clicking on some tiny little dots to even see what drive it's saying the game is on. Reason i thought i was modding the right game and it caused me to screwed the heck out of the game on the storage drive.

 

Since you don't support this mod manager any more guess i have to manually download all my mods now and install them the hard way with NMM at least i can still use one of the old installs or get it from github

 

Was hoping for a easy to use mod manager for modding these games. Not a nightmare like Vortex has turned out to be. Sorry this is my experience with it, hope yours is better.

[BigBizkit]

Hi,

 

I am a bit confused as to what you were trying to convey.

 

So, you have your games on your secondary drive, but Vortex starts scanning the main drive, but then you say Vortex does find the games... but not on the correct drive? That last part has me confused.

 

Or, are you saying you have multiple installations of your games on different drives?

 

I am sorry you are having a bad experience thus far and I hope you can clear things up a bit so I can look into it.

[YellowEagle]

Ok let me explain it

 

One it finds the games i have on my storage and uses them. It shouldn't even scan that drive, unless i direct it to.

 

It can't even find the games on my main drive. These are the ones that needed modding.

 

Can't change the pathing to the correct drive and or directory either.

 

It shouldn't even start scanning any drive unless i have it do so.

 

I just installed it and it scanned the storage drive and loaded those games, can't remove them either just hide them. I removed it and reinstalled it same thing. Vortex is a good name for it.

 

Hope that cleared up any confusion. But thats ok as i downloaded a updated version of NMM and just drag and dropped my mods into it and i'm up and running. No Fuss No Muss now i can at least start over.

[Zanderat]

I am confused, too. You have multiple installations of the same game on different drives?

 

edit: I have never used this setting, but I think this what you need.

 

[BigBizkit]

Am I getting this right?

 

So, it seems you have two installations of, let's say, Fallout 4, one on C and one on E.

 

You want to mod the one on C, but Vortex finds the one on E.

 

 

In that case: Vortex will point to the last installation made as that is the last one to modify the registry key.

 

That being said, you should be able to change the location manually like in the picture Zandarat posted above. Are you saying you are unable to do that? Are you getting any error message or what exactly is happening when you point the location to your other installation on drive C?

[HadToRegister]

This mod manager needs to much hands on to use effectively. Not made for the general user. And I've been using mod managers for over 20 years for different games.

I find this to be very inaccurate, and it tells me you didn't spend much time with Vortex AT ALL.

Vortex is very "hands off", I have it set to automatically sort my mods, so I can go on a shopping spree on the Nexus and download mods, while clicking INSTALL with Vortex, and it tells me whenever there's a file conflict, but I keep downloading anyway, because I'll fix all of the file conflicts later, so I keep downloading and installing...

 

Now I've got 165 mods installed and Vortex tells me there's file conflicts, so I click on the lightning bolt next to a conflicting mod, tell it to load before or after the mod it's conflicting with and BOOM, FIXED.

You think NMM was "Hands Off" because it didn't report things like that, and you couldn't DO things like that with NMM.

People who think that NMM was "Hands off" subscribe to the "Ignorance is Bliss" school, because NMM never reported any problems, so people were using bad load orders with conflicts galore, while believing their load order was "Perfect"

The reason you think NMM was easy to use, is because it didn't tell you about file conflicts unless it was already ready to PHYSICALLY OVERWRITE the other mod's files.

Vortex keeps track of all the mods files, so if you decided to overwrite Mod B's files with MOD A's files, and find out that was the wrong thing to do, all you have to do is tell vortex to overwrite MOD A's files with MOD B's files, and vortex restores MOD B's files automatically and overwrites accordingly.

 

But, with your OP, you've already set your mind to disliking Vortex, so I'll just leave you with these two things, and bow out of the thread, because I'm not going to waste my time and try and convince you that you'd love Vortex if you actually put some effort into using it.

 

You can download the latest version of NMM and go back to having it keep you in the dark about your load order, by following the download instructions I gave below.

Have fun with NMM.

Bye.

 

 

 

First off, the Nexus has been telling people, if you have a set up that works DO NOT SWITCH OVER TO VORTEX.

Also, you can still download NMM, just click on INSTALL VORTEX, then scroll down the page that you are brought to.

 

 

 

 

 

Ignore the Drive D: with the red box around it, that was for someone else.

But look at the other red box.

 

 

[YellowEagle]

Tried that, it would let me remove the drives i didn't want but also wouldn't let me repath to the correct one.

 

It would only show me the games that were on my E: drive. which by the way i don't have a E: drive i do have a H drive that my games are on. this is a storage drive. I do have a win 7 x64 prof drive that is only a 110 SSD when i use that Drive then those games are all on that drive.

 

The Other Drive is a 550 Gig and i only put certain games on it. It is my C: Drive. This is the drive that Vortex was installed on I have NMM on the 110 SSD.

 

No 2. i did not find this manager to be easy, it was a chore and i spent nearly 4 hours making my way through it and watching all the vids on it. It did Not auto install any mods, Nor would i want it to. I had to install each mod just like in NMM and enable each one. it does have a few features i like but that doesn't mean it works right.

 

No 3. i even reinstalled it and i had all the registry keys removed when i removed it. ( I have a Program for that. )

 

No 4. this is on a fresh install of windows. the only other game was fallout 76.

 

No 5. I had done a fresh install of Steam and Fallout 4 on my C: drive Then installed Vortex. ( This is the 550 Gig SSD )

 

No. 6 This manager should not just automatically start scanning drives, this is were one of the mistakes it made was from. I didn't even have a chance to reset it as it found Gog and Steam and loaded those games from my H: storage drive.

 

No. 7 I could not remove those games and all the others it had found only hide them. Nor could i reset the pathing to the correct directory, I could highlight them but couldn't change them. By the way this isn't Windows 10, I use Windows 7 x64 Prof. ( don't think this would make a difference. )

 

I'm a Full time Gamer, Have been gaming since the late 70's on computers, well i did my first computer game on a System during backup, but back then computers took up 3 floors of a building. That was before home computers. And I have been using managers for gaming and modding for many many years.

 

I have already downloaded NMM from Gethub and installed it and my mods took me about 35 min's and i was up and running. Have already been playing Fallout 4.

 

Happy to see the Vortex is working for you for me it was a nightmare to deal with. And no no Error messages.

[rmm200]

OP is gone so this is not directed at him. This is just my own curiosity.

I have not installed Vortex from scratch since alpha, so I don't know how it works currently.

Does Vortex automatically scan for games when first installed? If it does - it shouldn't.

Somehow force the new user to the tab to set game drives - and push a button to scan.

The game drives tab would also benefit from indicating it supports directories as well as drive letters, like "C:\Games\Steam".

[sopmac45]

""" This mod manager needs to much hands on to use effectively. Not made for the general user. And i've been using mod managers for over 20 years for different games. What ever NMM's faults at least it was usable """"

 

Well, I only have a bit more of 2 years modding games, started with NMM and jumped to Vortex as soon as it was available in Alpha state and how come, with much less experience than you, I was able to learn it and successfully deal with it for my two games, Fallout 4 with 76 mods and Skyrim with 101 ?

 

Definitely, your 20 years of experience deceived you and made you believe that you could just open Vortex and eat it for breakfast while walking in the park. Wrong !!

 

There is post today from somebody who is a banking programmer and he admitted that he tried to deal with Vortex based on just his own experience and he could not so he saw some videos and after that, he was able to successfully deal with it.

[YellowEagle]

Well it did for me when i installed it i didn't even have a chance to stop it, though not sure you can stop it once it's started scanning. It is very fast on scanning your drives i will say that.

 

It did support directory's at least from what the Vids say only i couldn't change them, only high light them.

 

NMM will scan all drives but you can just uncheck mark the ones you don't want and even the games, has a simple interface to find the correct directory.

 

I thought this one did to though many of my Game friends don't like Vortex and won't use it. i used it when it first came out for a little while but had to remove it when i had got the adobe flash bug and wipe that drive.

 

I have reloaded the drive and thought i'd reinstall Vortex it didn't work for me this time. I fussed with it for around 4 hours and gave up.

 

Anyway i have the new version of NMM installed and fallout is modded and playing. I won't bother these people any longer.